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Rivera could have brought him in last year but passed. I really don't see why he would want him now. He pretty much sucked in NE.

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[quote=MTK;1272393]Rivera could have brought him in last year but passed. I really don't see why he would want him now. He pretty much sucked in NE.[/quote]

It's a lazy take by Adam, everyone just assumes it because they were in Carolina together

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErEHo7YW4AAd5LF?format=png&name=900x900[/IMG]

The OL started off as the 29th ranked line and ended #6

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1272396][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErEHo7YW4AAd5LF?format=png&name=900x900[/IMG]

The OL started off as the 29th ranked line and ended #6[/quote]

Sure doesn't look/feel like the #6 ranked O-line when I'm watching the games.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1272397]Sure doesn't look/feel like the #6 ranked O-line when I'm watching the games.[/quote]

Agreed.. I wonder if the Oline rankings are different when playing w Haskins vs Allen vs Smith.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1272396][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErEHo7YW4AAd5LF?format=png&name=900x900[/IMG]

The OL started off as the 29th ranked line and ended #6[/quote]

Good stuff...I think our oline was pretty decent.

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The OL has been very solid all year

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I guess they've been solid. Maybe being ranked 28th in the league in yards per carry is on the RBs, and 29th in sacks allowed is on the QBs.

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Our run game has been non-existent.

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[quote=MTK;1272401]The OL has been very solid all year[/quote]

I agree, but I think pass pro has been way better than run blocking.

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Doesn't add up to me. I'm not sure how you can be ranked 28th in the league in yards per carry and 29th in sacks allowed, but still have the 6th best O-line.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1272409]Doesn't add up to me. I'm not sure how you can be ranked 28th in the league in yards per carry and 29th in sacks allowed, but still have the 6th best O-line.[/quote]

Offensive linemen often don’t get the recognition they deserve because it’s a difficult position to evaluate — one without readily available statistics to pull up in seconds. [I]That's why the PFF play-by-play grading gives us a unique perspective regarding offensive line play, as it separates the play of the offensive line from the play of the quarterback it is protecting or the runner it is blocking for.[/I]

[URL="https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2020-offensive-line-rankings"]Final 2020 offensive line rankings[/URL]

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Ok. Well I would surmise then, that the RB and QB positions must be graded terribly if the O-line is that good, but the passing game/running game are so bad.

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Wow we really did give up the second most sacks at 50 sacks. Thats surprising.

O line is hard to grade imo. I thought the left side would be an absolute turnstile that would handicap any offense we try to run leading to a 4-12 season. The expectations were very low for them. They definitely, each one of them, played above expectation. Scherff and Moses played through pain a lot. Lucas as well. Roullier is steady eddie. Wes Martin disappointed and Schweitzer took advantage.

Run game = they didnt create huge holes or push their men back much. Pass pro = they didnt seem to get beat immediately off the snap and while not great, managed to identify and slow down rushers. They werent a top 10 unit imo but they werent bottom 10 which is what I expected.

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The Washington Football Team signed Chase Roullier to a new four-year contract Saturday, keeping the anchor of its offensive line under contract through 2024. The deal is worth $40.5 million with $19 million guaranteed, according to a person with knowledge of the contract, which makes him the NFL’s 10th-highest-paid center by average annual value, according to OverTheCap.com.
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/01/02/chase-roullier-contract-extension-washington/[/url]

10th highest paid center ... sounds about right. Kinda eye opening to see a center get 10M per but I guess thats the going rate.

Good for Roullier. Great draft pick.

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Remember, we didn't have our current starting 5 to start the season. That probably put us in a big hole in regards to the rankings.

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That's true, but even recently the offense sucks. I'm glad to know that it is apparently not on the O-line. QB / RB / WR need to step it up big time this week.

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Adam Schefter is smoking crack, $50mil contract for Newton? .50cents maybe.

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/adam-schefter-believes-most-natural-142725127.html[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1272431]Remember, we didn't have our current starting 5 to start the season. That probably put us in a big hole in regards to the rankings.[/quote]

We didnt? I cant remember who was injured? Christian got injured mid season and Lucas replaced him. martin got injured, Schweitzer took his job.

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[quote=SunnySide;1272488]We didnt? I cant remember who was injured? Christian got injured mid season and Lucas replaced him. martin got injured, Schweitzer took his job.[/quote]

We started with Christian and Martin on the left side and it wasn't pretty. Oline play drastically improved with Lucas and Schweizer took over. I don't recall how many games they played before being replaced. Enough to bring the whole line down to start the year.

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Chase Young: Sorry I'm not sorry. He wants Tom.

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30663737/washington-football-team-de-chase-young-not-sorry-want-tom-brady-comments[/url]

Love this dude.

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When looking at OL performance also worth looking at per player performance and play calling. McKissick and Gibson both averaged 4+ yards per carry but Barber was bad at 2.7. That brought the average down across the board, and to some extent the QB's did too. Average pass play was 6.3 yards. And then figure in play calling and execution where we hit very few big plays. OL largely did their job well so I'd argue better QB play, play calling and execution in the passing game in particular would make the OL rating make more sense.

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Maybe the number of sacks allowed were due to Haskins holding the ball, Smith limited mobility, injuries on the line.

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Yep, I'm sure those were all contributors.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1272409]Doesn't add up to me. I'm not sure how you can be ranked 28th in the league in yards per carry and 29th in sacks allowed, but still have the 6th best O-line.[/quote]

That is PFF grades , should have clarified that

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErDmGCUXEAEL-Jm?format=jpg&name=900x900[/IMG]

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Not really sure Cam will even be in the league next year. No one will want him as a starter. Maybe he can compete with Griffin as a backup.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1272516]Not really sure Cam will even be in the league next year. No one will want him as a starter. Maybe he can compete with Griffin as a backup.[/quote]Agreed. Think he will get a look somewhere. Just don't think he'll get a deal he wants. I still think he'll be somewhere next year. NE had him on the cheap, and it still didn't work out.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1272516]Not really sure Cam will even be in the league next year. No one will want him as a starter. Maybe he can compete with Griffin as a backup.[/quote]

Veteran minimum.

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It's weird, what I did see of him, he looked healthy but his throws were sometimes short of the mark. However, it wasn't lack of power, but seemed to be a mechanical problem. Kind of the opposite of Manning in his last season; had little zip but his timing and accuracy overcame that to an extent. I wouldn't be surprised if Cam went under th knife again this offseason, assuming he doesn't retire.

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“I play ball; I’m excited to go against the best,” Young said during a video call with reporters. “… I’m excited for every game. And Tom Brady — you think I’m not gonna be excited to play against the GOAT? Then you trippin’. And that is what it is. I’m excited to play against Big Tom. I’m not gonna apologize for saying I want Tom. No, I want Tom Brady. I want every quarterback I play against.”

LOL I love this dude

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Washington’s winning hand this season comes down to a simple formula: hold opponents to 20 or fewer points. That’s something it’s done during each of the final seven games of the season and 10 times overall. In those 10 games, Washington finished 7-3. When the opposition scored 21 or more points, Washington was 0-6.

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That doesn't bode well. I think they absolutely have to have at least a 2+ turnover differential and a defensive score in order to pull of the upset. It's hard for me to believe this offense is all of a sudden going to get humming against this Tampa D.

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Looks like they have been held under 21 points only twice this year - Saints (3) Bears (19).

They have scored over 30 points 8 times.

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I think Brady has a losing record against top 10 defenses this year, trying to find the exact stat

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[quote=MTK;1272561]I think Brady has a losing record against top 10 defenses this year, trying to find the exact stat[/quote]

1-4 I believe

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They literally just rescheduled my son's hockey game to 8pm Saturday night, jesus christ.

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[quote=mredskins;1272571]They literally just rescheduled my son's hockey game to 8pm Saturday night, jesus christ.[/quote]

He's injured, can't make it this week sorry

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It's our 17th wedding anniversary Saturday. Wife is cool with watching the game though - not like we can go out or anything anyway.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1272249]Antoine Windield and Whitehead are pretty good.[/quote]

You're right. My point is this Bucs D is better against the run than the pass (1st in rush yards, 21st in pass yards), and if we're not able to scare them with a couple of deep shots, they'll load the box and make it very hard for us to move the ball, even with some short passing game.

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[quote=mredskins;1272571]They literally just rescheduled my son's hockey game to 8pm Saturday night, jesus christ.[/quote]

Poor him, wonder how he's gonna go to his game...