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I also don't think Rivera is going anywhere anytime soon. Snyder has nowhere else to turn at this point. He's also got bigger problems to worry about. Sometimes I feel the other owners realize he may never get a new stadium potentially leading to their motivation to want to oust him. I really believe that may play a role, in addition to his known terrible transgressions.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1323676][url]https://twitter.com/granthpaulsen/status/1575512201955315714[/url]

I don't like retweeting Grant because I'm not a fan of his, but this is kinda damning too.

Trailing in 91% of games is a bad stat. But the alternative is Dan Snyder picking yet another coach and front office combo - and is that any better than Ron?[/QUOTE]


Bad is being kind. It is epically awful. It can’t get worse than what is happening can it?
It isn’t just the losing it is the personnel decisions. It almost seems like the plan is to lose. The drafts and the guys we let walk and the guys we sign - too many head scratching moments. Ron is a bad HC. He is an awful GM.

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Rivera has been a complete an utter failure. And it won't change. Just listen to any of his interviews.

He's a blowhard.

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[quote=SunnySide;1323631]if its 7-10 ... Id prefer to keep RR and Turner, switch DC. If RR goes ... so does Mayhew and a lot of upper crust.

Upper crust we didnt have under Snyder.

Snyder then picks the HC and decides how we re-structure the entire organization.

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[url]https://www.commanders.com/team/front-office-roster/[/url]

^^ look at our front office/exec staff now.

its full .. and costing Snyder a ton of money. New turf, hire an asst to the asst = straight out of Snyder's profit.

before it was like 6 people .. now its an actual organization.

Snyder, im guessing, would fire half the people and gladly go back to paying pennies on the dollar with a duct tape staff.

I wonder if part of the league investigation and punishment was he NEEDS to keep certain staff positions like an HR.[/quote]

They sure are into titles over there. Everyone is either a VP or a chief.

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I think the only move in season I would support is firing JDR and moving Chris Harris to DC

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Del Rio gone Monday would make me happy

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[quote=mooby;1323676][url]https://twitter.com/granthpaulsen/status/1575512201955315714[/url]

I don't like retweeting Grant because I'm not a fan of his, but this is kinda damning too.

Trailing in 91% of games is a bad stat. But the alternative is Dan Snyder picking yet another coach and front office combo - and is that any better than Ron?[/quote]

I'd like to see other coaches stats same breakdown grant, thanks

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Seen about enough

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Uninspired. Unprepared. Confused. Afraid. Stubborn. Surrounds himself with other idiots. Posing as a GM. Doesn’t take responsibility.

Fire. Him. Now.

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At the very least, JDR should be packing his bags.

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[quote=punch it in;1324236]Uninspired. Unprepared. Confused. Afraid. Stubborn. Surrounds himself with other idiots. Posing as a GM. Doesn’t take responsibility.

Fire. Him. Now.[/quote]

Can't wait to see who he throws under the buss today. What a coward.

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[url]https://riggosrag.com/2022/09/30/ranking-potential-replacements-commanders-cut-ties-ron-rivera-gannon-ryans/5/[/url]

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[quote=punch it in;1324279][url]https://riggosrag.com/2022/09/30/ranking-potential-replacements-commanders-cut-ties-ron-rivera-gannon-ryans/5/[/url][/quote]

Give me Demeco Ryans. Let's be fucking bold once. Get us a young coach with NFL playing experience. He would be like getting Kevin O'Connell, except a defensive background instead of an offensive background. Pull out your undeserved checkbook and pay him. I'd be pretty jacked for that hire.

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FUCK AN OLD RE-TREAD!

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1324281]Give me Demeco Ryans. Let's be fucking bold once. Get us a young coach with NFL playing experience. He would be like getting Kevin O'Connell, except a defensive background instead of an offensive background. Pull out your undeserved checkbook and pay him. I'd be pretty jacked for that hire.[/QUOTE]


Ryans or Bienemy. That would be neat.


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I just want someone under the age of 45. No more fucking dinosaurs.


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[quote=DynamiteRave;1324287]I just want someone under the age of 45. No more fucking dinosaurs.

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Sadly, we all know it won't happen.

Washington Dodo Birds

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Making Ron head of everything could make this more complicated, meaning you probably gotta replace alotta of folks. But who cares.

Dream scenario is Andy Reid wins again and retires…Snyder comes in with ownership opportunity and let’s him run everything

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1324289]Making Ron head of everything could make this more complicated, meaning you probably gotta replace alotta of folks. But who cares.

Dream scenario is Andy Reid wins again and retires…Snyder comes in with ownership opportunity and let’s him run everything[/QUOTE]


Snyder would never relinquish control even to win. This gets back to the fact that he knows he will be hated no matter what this franchise ever does. The time of him trying to be a hero to the fans and city is long gone. He is just making money now. He may have been a fan when it started but I think the pushback has gotten to him. I really believe he revels in our depression at this point.
As for Reid or any other successful HC ever coming to this organization in any form is laughable.
You would be a fool to go into business with the likes of Dan Snyder. He is a snake. Everyone knows it. Let’s just face the facts , Snyder is going nowhere and he is going to drag us fans with him through the misery. It doesn’t bother him. Not anymore.

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[quote=punch it in;1324320]Snyder would never relinquish control even to win. This gets back to the fact that he knows he will be hated no matter what this franchise ever does. The time of him trying to be a hero to the fans and city is long gone. He is just making money now. He may have been a fan when it started but I think the pushback has gotten to him. I really believe he revels in our depression at this point.
As for Reid or any other successful HC ever coming to this organization in any form is laughable.
You would be a fool to go into business with the likes of Dan Snyder. He is a snake. Everyone knows it. Let’s just face the facts , Snyder is going nowhere and he is going to drag us fans with him through the misery. It doesn’t bother him. Not anymore.[/quote]

Maybe minority ownership interest would be attractive though

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1324322]Maybe minority ownership interest would be attractive though[/QUOTE]


For the right person I suppose it would be. It is definitely a possible highway out of the hell that is this franchise.
It is just that overwhelming feeling of not being able to have nice things as a fan of this team kicking in again. Lol

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Go get Byron Leftwhich

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1324356]Go get Byron Leftwhich[/QUOTE]


I’d love that, he’s a young smart offensive mind. Ron and this staff are all old fucks that are outdated


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[url]https://twitter.com/LakeLewis/status/1576907077120729088?s=20&t=B-8tcI-pQcYQrkyqaIKblQ[/url]

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If we are being Real, Jay Gruden was probably better


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[quote=calia;1324286]Ryans or Bienemy. That would be neat.


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Leftwich?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1324384]If we are being Real, Jay Gruden was probably better


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I have zero doubts Gruden is better but maybe that is me being myopic. He had two winning seasons and did that with a GM that undermined him at every turn. I would have liked to see what he would have been capable of with a solid GM (I don't even need a good one just give me a GM in the 14th-17th best in the league range). The defense was generally abysmal under his watch

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Honestly it's time for tank mode.

The NFCE is way better than we thought and we won't win a game in the division with this staff. Look at our schedule, it's brutal.

4 Wins max

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1324389]I have zero doubts Gruden is better but maybe that is me being myopic. He had two winning seasons and did that with a GM that undermined him at every turn. I would have liked to see what he would have been capable of with a solid GM (I don't even need a good one just give me a GM in the 14th-17th best in the league range). The defense was generally abysmal under his watch[/quote]

I was going to post something similar yesterday but I thought it was the tequila talking.
Jay and McVay understood how to call a complete game and how to setup plays.
Turner has no plan. He is picking plays at random and it shows.

I'm going to double down on this and say Rivera with his coaching staff is the worst we've ever had in modern history.

I'd Take Jay and McVay over this bullshit.
I'd also take Zorn and Sherman Smith/Greg Blache over this shitshow.

Rivera Quiet Quit when he got cancer.

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[quote=jamf;1324406]I was going to post something similar yesterday but I thought it was the tequila talking.
Jay and McVay understood how to call a complete game and how to setup plays.
Turner has no plan. He is picking plays at random and it shows.

I'm going to double down on this and say Rivera with his coaching staff is the worst we've ever had in modern history.

I'd Take Jay and McVay over this bullshit.
I'd also take Zorn and Sherman Smith/Greg Blache over this shitshow.

Rivera Quiet Quit when he got cancer.[/quote]

Ron isn't worse than Zorn but he's not better than Mike S or Jay Gruden . At least both of those coaches had fun seasons , man we are so dull and boring and have been for 3 years. Ron needs to go asap

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Ron as a GM, a complete failure. Ron as a Head Coach, a complete failure

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I have said that I would reserve judgment until the team has played four games. Part of me wants to extend that to six, but Fuck it.

First of all, while a significant hole has been dug, it is still possible to turn things around...and that's a bunch of BS - lol

The on the field game management is terrible.
The play calling is terrible.
The offensive line is terrible.
The decision making by the QB is terrible.
The defense giving up big play after big play is terrible.
There have been flashes and some nice plays, but those are so few and far between that they are really insignificant in my opinion. Like the saying goes, the sun shines on a dogs ass every once in a while. For the most part, this offense has not delivered - at all, and it's getting worse by the week. The defense may actually be improving in some areas, but it doesn't matter if you can't score points (~18 points per game, and a lot of those in garbage time after being down 20+).
The secondary has some nice pieces, but they are so inconsistent that it's not even funny anymore. I actually don't even think that the collective talent there is bad, but they are out of position way too often, leading to big plays that just crush hopes.
The linebackers...man. J Davis actually looks to be getting better in my opinion. He may be even better than C Holcomb at this point (big whoop), but collectively the LB group is very underwhelming to say the least. It's a glaring failure 2+ years into this regime.
Special teams is meh... It says a lot when your Punter is consistently the MVP of the games/season.
I was unaware that yesterday - in game 4, was the first field goal attempt by J Slye. At least he made it.
We need a return game badly. There were better returner candidates on this team in the preseason, than what we have seen thrown out there the first four games.
The defensive line is the only position group that has shown up this year (maybe you can say the receivers have as well when given a chance, but ST and CW haven't been able to consistently get them the ball).

The product on the field is getting worse every time the team takes the field, and it's a direct result of poor management of the roster, and poor coaching, both of which lead to RR. The lack of talent for certain position groups, combined with the inability to have this team prepared to play, or to adjust to what's happening on the field, is unacceptable. I think the players probably care too, especially the Captains, and it's only a matter of time before this thing absolutely implodes from within. The sky is officially falling...

The only reason I might watch next Sunday is because Brian Robinson may play, and I think that is nothing short of awesome for that kid. I truly wish him the best. Too bad for him that he was drafted by this team.

What a soup sandwich this team is.

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[URL="https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/1577020639713452032?s=20&t=WW9nOKom6XvpTkU81BOeAQ"]Ron laying down some f-bombs[/URL].

Kinda wish he'd just say "it starts at the top - we need to improve as coaches and put these guys in better position to succeed." I'd respect that more than his long statement about how rebuilding takes time.

The problem is he's in year 3 and there has been a clear regression from last year to now.

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[quote=mooby;1324446][URL="https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/1577020639713452032?s=20&t=WW9nOKom6XvpTkU81BOeAQ"]Ron laying down some f-bombs[/URL].

Kinda wish he'd just say "it starts at the top - we need to improve as coaches and put these guys in better position to succeed." I'd respect that more than his long statement about how rebuilding takes time.

The problem is he's in year 3 and there has been a clear regression from last year to now.[/quote]

It's everyone's fault but Ron's.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1324450]It's everyone's fault but Ron's.[/QUOTE]


He’s cussing like that’s going to get our attention lmfao. Bro u suck and your team sucks. Saying the F word doesn’t make us like you more.. fire this dude already


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Pointing out it’s been going on for a while - aka it aint all on me.
And saying it aint gonna change over night? It’s been 3 years. And we are getting worse. It’s changing Ron. Into a worse shitshow. Seriously fuck this guy. He is awful. Awful coach, awful gm, awful spokesmen. Fire his ass.

Keeps saying until everything is in place. Lol. He is the one drafting. He is the one letting guys walk and bringing in every bum from Carolina. What a fuckin clown.

Re: Ron Rivera
 

Demarco Ryans for Head Coach

Martin Mayhew was with him for several years in San Fran, maybe that a good relationship that could bring him over

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1324472]Pointing out it’s been going on for a while - aka it aint all on me.
And saying it aint gonna change over night? It’s been 3 years. And we are getting worse. It’s changing Ron. Into a worse shitshow. Seriously fuck this guy. He is awful. Awful coach, awful gm, awful spokesmen. Fire his ass.

Keeps saying until everything is in place. Lol. He is the one drafting. He is the one letting guys walk and bringing in every bum from Carolina. What a fuckin clown.[/QUOTE]


Hey buddy it takes time! ……


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[quote=mooby;1324446][URL="https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/1577020639713452032?s=20&t=WW9nOKom6XvpTkU81BOeAQ"]Ron laying down some f-bombs[/URL].

Kinda wish he'd just say "it starts at the top - we need to improve as coaches and put these guys in better position to succeed." I'd respect that more than his long statement about how rebuilding takes time.

The problem is he's in year 3 and there has been a clear regression from last year to now.[/quote]

I've suspected for a long time that RR truly believes he has a full five years as HC and de facto GM to build this team. His latest comments seem to confirm my suspicions. Hopefully, the obvious regression of this team will light a fire under his ass and he will make some meaningful changes right away.

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[quote=jamf;1324406]I was going to post something similar yesterday but I thought it was the tequila talking.
Jay and McVay understood how to call a complete game and how to setup plays.
Turner has no plan. He is picking plays at random and it shows.

I'm going to double down on this and say Rivera with his coaching staff is the worst we've ever had in modern history.

I'd Take Jay and McVay over this bullshit.
I'd also take Zorn and Sherman Smith/Greg Blache over this shitshow.

Rivera Quiet Quit when he got cancer.[/quote]

I will say I thought ST did a better play calling job against Dallas not great but better. Dumb penalties hurt them. I definitely liked Jay as a coach as I look back at his tenure. Bruce had to get rid of Pierre and Deshawn and then undermine Kurt in order for Jay to have two 7-9 seasons.