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For what it is worth....

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“Let’s take Marcus Mariota... Washington was interested [in a trade], I don’t think they’re interested any more. New England was interested, I’m not sure they’re interested any more.” -
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[quote=EdmundDorf;1277552]For what it is worth....

JP Finlay Retweeted
WASHINGTON FOOTBALL
@HogsHaven
·
4h
“Let’s take Marcus Mariota... Washington was interested [in a trade], I don’t think they’re interested any more. New England was interested, I’m not sure they’re interested any more.” -
@mlombardiNFL
on
@PatMcAfeeShow[/quote]

Maybe they're gambling that the Raiders don't want to carry Mariota's cap hit this year and might release him or give him up on the low later.

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Perhaps, maybe they heard the Raiders asking price

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Is it just me or does there seem to be more focus on the QB position than more years? Maybe just my impression but overall QB play seemed improved this season (few teams seemed to have ended the season with a dire starting QB), and there's arguably a good crop in the draft, but it seems there's more noise around the league on QB movement this offseason.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1277555]Is it just me or does there seem to be more focus on the QB position than more years? Maybe just my impression but overall QB play seemed improved this season (few teams seemed to have ended the season with a dire starting QB), and there's arguably a good crop in the draft, but it seems there's more noise around the league on QB movement this offseason.[/quote]

It's the Mahomes effect, everyone sees KC has this new SB contender every yr and it's mainly due to #15. The urge to get a QB is now at an all time high

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1277557]It's the Mahomes effect, everyone sees KC has this new SB contender every yr and it's mainly due to #15. The urge to get a QB is now at an all time high[/QUOTE]

Not sure I see that altogether. I can see how player power has pushed things a little (Stafford, Watson, Rodgers and Wilson stoking the fire), but the Chiefs seem the only team absolutely set at QB (at least up to the Stafford trade). There's either opinion that multiple teams don't have their ideal QB (i.e. Giants, 49ers, Raiders), there's a change of guard happening/likely (i.e. Falcons, Saints, Colts), there's instability through injury, performance etc. (i.e. Cowboys, Eagles, Dolphins) or there's a need for an upgrade (i.e. WFT, Broncos, Jets). Seems to me more of a coincidence of events almost league wide than any active approach by the majority of teams.

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QB's are always in high demand it's not anything new.

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It's funny, for all the hype about QBs moving around this offseason only one has moved so far. That will change of course as we move closer to the draft but the hype about all these guys moving is just that, hype.

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[quote=MTK;1277568]It's funny, for all the hype about QBs moving around this offseason [B]only one[/B] has moved so far. That will change of course as we move closer to the draft but the hype about all these guys moving is just that, hype.[/quote]

Two, actually.

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[quote=Number44;1277569]Two, actually.[/quote]

One trade is what I meant.

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You wouldn't count DH to the Steelers? ;)

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1277573]You wouldn't count DH to the Steelers? ;)[/QUOTE]



He was such a bust here that I actually forget he was even here, and it isn’t like it has been more than a couple damn months. I think I blocked his tenure here completely out of my mind.

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Glad Mariota is off the table

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277584]Glad Mariota is off the table[/quote]

Why do you say that?

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I think it's way too early to say anyone is off the table.

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[quote=mredskins;1277585]Why do you say that?[/quote]

I pushed him

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[quote=mredskins;1277585]Why do you say that?[/quote]

I'm just not a big fan of getting journeymen QBs.. I'd rather just roll with what we have now and add our own Rookie.

Watson and Dak are the exceptions of course but neither will happen

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277588]I'm just not a big fan of getting journeymen QBs.. I'd rather just roll with what we have now and add our own Rookie.

Watson and Dak are the exceptions of course but neither will happen[/quote]

Agreed. Allen/Heinike are basically on a Marriota level imo. Both can run the offense but arent plus players.

Either do a true upgrayedd with a Watson type or just lean on the average at best QBs we have now.

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[quote=SunnySide;1277590]Agreed. Allen/Heinike are basically on a Marriota level imo. Both can run the offense but arent plus players.

Either do a true upgrayedd with a Watson type or just lean on the average at best QBs we have now.[/quote]

If we can manage to grab Lance / Fields I'd be all in on that. Mariota to me won't make us some legit offense so why trade a 2nd or 3rd for the guy? Plus he's had big time injury concerns...

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[quote=SunnySide;1277590]Agreed. Allen/Heinike are basically on a Marriota level imo. Both can run the offense but arent plus players.

Either do a true upgrayedd with a Watson type or just lean on the average at best QBs we have now.[/quote]

Heinicke has been injured in every NFL game he has started.

Allen is coming off a bad ankle injury.

Smith falls down when he tries to move out of the pocket.

I don't think we can afford to lean on the QBs currently on the roster. That would be complete negligence and reason for a revolt.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277591]If we can manage to grab Lance / Fields I'd be all in on that. Mariota to me won't make us some legit offense so why trade a 2nd or 3rd for the guy? Plus he's had big time injury concerns...[/quote]

I am leaning this way as well - if they can move up a few spots to grab one of the top 4. Although, I think they should add a QB (2-3 year deal) in free agency first.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1277593]Heinicke has been injured in every NFL game he has started.

Allen is coming off a bad ankle injury.

Smith falls down when he tries to move out of the pocket.

I don't think we can afford to lean on the QBs currently on the roster. That would be complete negligence and reason for a revolt.[/quote]

Smith is being released.

Allen - I assume we tender him as an ERFA. Cheap no brainer unless his ankle is that bad.

Heinike - injury prone in very small sample size. Still an unknown and Im fighting my inner urge to just dismiss him outright as just not looking like an NFL player bc he did move the ball in that small sample size.

We dont have a starter level Qb and the Qbs we have under contract are injury prone and less than average even if healthy.

Its not an ideal situation. Overpaid vet who cant play anymore and 2 journeyman QBs, coming off injuries, that nobody else wanted.

Solution? name of our week 1 starter? I have no idea but I dont think he is currently on the roster. Lots of things to happen, trades, players cut, maybe a draft move up. Maybe Mac Jones or Trey lance falls?

im excited to be in this position though. good cap position, full load of draft picks. Office full of NFL execs and scouts "all on the same page".

Good time to be a skins fan.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277591]If we can manage to grab Lance / Fields I'd be all in on that. Mariota to me won't make us some legit offense so why trade a 2nd or 3rd for the guy? Plus he's had big time injury concerns...[/quote]

I don't think a 2nd or 3rd are in the discussions about Mariota. His salary being what it is, teams aren't inclined to give up a 2nd or 3rd on top of paying him.
IMO, the question is whether a team offers a 4th or if a 5th will do it.

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[quote=Number44;1277599]I don't think a 2nd or 3rd are in the discussions about Mariota. His salary being what it is, teams aren't inclined to give up a 2nd or 3rd on top of paying him.
IMO, the question is whether a team offers a 4th or if a 5th will do it.[/quote]

Yeah, I didn't realize his salary was so prohibitive for LV. I don't think they can afford for him to come back to be honest, and if Carr gets hurt they could end up paying him at an even higher premium.

They'll probably end up taking a later round pick for him or just releasing him and promoting Peterman.

The smart move to me would be for them to take what they can get sooner rather than later, before teams begin to fill their needs with other options.

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Yeah the Raiders don't have any leverage with Mariota. I'd offer up a 5th right now. I kind of scoffed at the thought initially, but now I think he could be an intriguing fit in this offense. A more athletic Kyle Allen basically.

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MM does 0 for me. Ziltch. Nada. But I would take him over Alex at this point in their careers. We already know what he is. Lower tier starter. Doesn't come off as a leader to me. He is a JAG w/ really good mobility. Doesn't even have a 4,000 season.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277588]I'm just not a big fan of getting journeymen QBs.. I'd rather just roll with what we have now and add our own Rookie.

Watson and Dak are the exceptions of course but neither will happen[/quote]

Ok so MM is off the table is your opinion; you stayed in your post like something had happen with him. He is still on the table just not your table.

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[quote=mredskins;1277609]Ok so MM is off the table is your opinion; you stayed in your post like something had happen with him. He is still on the table just not your table.[/quote]

I’d bring in any QB we can find. Maybe someone blossoms in a new setting. I figure the more (reasonable) chances we take, we have to hit one someone. Who is due more than us?

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Draft and develop. We should draft a QB every year.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1277611]Draft and develop. We should draft a QB every year.[/quote]

That’s how we ended up with Schroeder, Rypien and Frerotte. Can’t hurt.

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[quote=mredskins;1277609]Ok so MM is off the table is your opinion; you stayed in your post like something had happen with him. He is still on the table just not your table.[/quote]

“Let’s take Marcus Mariota... Washington was interested [in a trade], I don’t think they’re interested any more.

Michael Lombardi

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277615]“Let’s take Marcus Mariota... Washington was interested [in a trade], I don’t think they’re interested any more.

Michael Lombardi[/quote]

I'm sure they are still interested, just not for the compensation LV wants. Their price will likely come down as we inch closer to free agency.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277615]“Let’s take Marcus Mariota... Washington was interested [in a trade], I don’t think they’re interested any more.

Michael Lombardi[/quote]

Probably should have quoted that to start , been less confusing

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[quote=mredskins;1277619]Probably should have quoted that to start , been less confusing[/quote]

It was in here earlier but I'm also lazy at times :)

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277620]It was in here earlier but I'm also lazy at times :)[/quote]

Ha ! I hear u

I just went searching for something on mm after you posted that.

I hope we don’t get mm, spinning tires.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1277616]I'm sure they are still interested, just not for the compensation LV wants. Their price will likely come down as we inch closer to free agency.[/quote]

5th round pick will do it, just like I said all along.

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Washington Football Team
Projected 2021 starter: Ryan Fitzpatrick


Washington is in the same category as the Patriots: in need of a quarterback addition but too far down the draft order to count on that as the avenue to address it. Fitzy is about as well-traveled as any other player in the league over the past 15 years, but he continues to play at a strong enough level to merit starting consideration. It's often a roller coaster with him under center, but he has an infectious energy that cannot be discounted. We saw it last year in Miami when he helped the team in a few gotta-have-it situations.

Field Yates

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I have said before I'm not averse to Fitzmagic, though I wouldn't go hell for leather after him. He's likely to be in demand as a bridge QB for anyone picking up a rookie in the draft. Probably with the exception of the Jags and Panthers. If we are going the route of trying to find a diamond in round 2 or 3, then I'd consider him a better 1 year option than any other FA, and probably Mariota.

Question; say for example our QB room was Mariota, Allen and Heinicke going into the draft (whether we traded for MM or not), would you be OK if we didn't come away with a rookie QB if we couldn't see a good enough guy when we pick?

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1277633]I have said before I'm not averse to Fitzmagic, though I wouldn't go hell for leather after him. He's likely to be in demand as a bridge QB for anyone picking up a rookie in the draft. Probably with the exception of the Jags and Panthers. If we are going the route of trying to find a diamond in round 2 or 3, then I'd consider him a better 1 year option than any other FA, and probably Mariota.

Question; say for example our QB room was Mariota, Allen and Heinicke going into the draft (whether we traded for MM or not), [B]would you be OK if we didn't come away with a rookie QB if we couldn't see a good enough guy when we pick?[/B][/quote]

If you are talking about pick #19, the answer is yes. I would rather them pick an immediate impact guy, the best player on their board (WR/LB/CB/OT/IOL) at #19 than reach for a rookie QB who may or may not see the field in 2021. Anyone beyond the top four (Lawrence, Wilson, Fields, Lance) is a reach at #19 in my opinion. The rest of them should be drafted in round 2+.

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I meant with any of our picks, but yeah, particularly #19. For me they have to go into the draft with the BPA/best fills a need with every pick, even if it means no QB. I agree in principle with the idea of drafting a QB every year, but only if there's a guy you truly believe has at least backup potential.