Re: Time to Build an Offensive Line
 

[quote=Ruhskins;664538]Just as I suspected (by reading these posts), just about every FA offensive lineman that we could get (UFAs) are over the age of 30. While a number of them could play very well and would be huge upgrades over our current players, I think by filling all of the holes in the line with 30+ year old lineman, you're at risk of having injured starters.

I just feel that we've been gambling on patching up the line with older players for a while now. And the downside of this year is that we aren't able to pick up a marquee lineman in his mid to late 20s (i.e. Marcus McNeill) because RFA rules due to the uncapped season, without giving up draft picks.[/quote]

Well, they definitely need to address the line in the draft but I just don't see a downside in bringing in Mawae. He is a leader on and off the field, he is still considered an All-pro, he just blocked for a 2000 yard rusher, he would absolutely be an upgrade over Rabach, and he could demonstrate to all of the lineman what it takes to be a pro.

I hear all of this stuff about 2-3 year rebuilding and I think it is bs. I think in an uncapped year they can make enough moves to get this team in the playoffs. They fixed the D-line in one year, they can fix the o-line in one year.

Re: Time to Build an Offensive Line
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;664544]Well, they definitely need to address the line in the draft but I just don't see a downside in bringing in Mawae. He is a leader on and off the field, he is still considered an All-pro, he just blocked for a 2000 yard rusher, he would absolutely be an upgrade over Rabach, and he could demonstrate to all of the lineman what it takes to be a pro.

I hear all of this stuff about 2-3 year rebuilding and I think it is bs. I think in an uncapped year they can make enough moves to get this team in the playoffs. They fixed the D-line in one year, they can fix the o-line in one year.[/quote]

As I said, a lot of these guys would be upgrades, but still because of their age you risk injury. I mean, injuries happen, but due to RFA restrictions, it seems that we would need to fill all of our needs with linemen in their 30s. I would feel better if we could go after a Marcus McNeill in free agency (without having to give up draft picks).

Re: Time to Build an Offensive Line
 

[quote=Ruhskins;664546]As I said, a lot of these guys would be upgrades, but still because of their age you risk injury. I mean, injuries happen, but due to RFA restrictions, it seems that we would need to fill all of our needs with linemen in their 30s. I would feel better if we could go after a Marcus McNeill in free agency (without having to give up draft picks).[/quote]


Injuries are a wild-card, especially on the line. I think it is just as likely that McNeill gets hurt as Mawae. Heyer is one of our youngest guys and he was hurt all year.

Re: Time to Build an Offensive Line
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;664544]Well, they definitely need to address the line in the draft but I just don't see a downside in bringing in Mawae. He is a leader on and off the field, he is still considered an All-pro, he just blocked for a 2000 yard rusher, he would absolutely be an upgrade over Rabach, and he could demonstrate to all of the lineman what it takes to be a pro.

[B]I hear all of this stuff about 2-3 year rebuilding and I think it is bs[/B]. I think in an uncapped year they can make enough moves to get this team in the playoffs. They fixed the D-line in one year, they can fix the o-line in one year.[/quote]

I'm not buying it either. Is anyone really going to give MS a pass for another crap season in 2010? I want to see a strong indication that things are headed in the right direction right away in 2010, I'll be expecting .500 or better.

Re: Time to Build an Offensive Line
 

I would prefer:

LT: Russel Okung
LG: Derrick Dockery
C: Casey Rabach (We surround him with talent)
RG: Stephen Neal (Free Agency)
RT: Levi Jones

Re: Time to Build an Offensive Line
 

[quote=redskin4n;664555]I would prefer:

LT: Russel Okung
LG: Derrick Dockery
C: Casey Rabach (We surround him with talent)
RG: Stephen Neal (Free Agency)
RT: Levi Jones[/quote]

This sounds great, except for having Edwin Williams under C and Rabach as a backup.

Re: Time to Build an Offensive Line
 

How come when Heyer doesn't practice it's ok but when Portis doesn't everyone jumps all over him?

Re: Time to Build an Offensive Line
 

Use the first two picks to draft two Ts.. Draft Okung with #1 pick, then draft Brown with #2 pick (Campbell would be nice but I don't think he would drop that far).. If there are intriguing guards or a center prospects available later in late rounds, I would draft them..

I would try to sign Pasho to push the rookies for either spot.. I definitely would try to sign Mawae as band-aid for a year or maybe two?

I would retain Doc, Edwin Williams, Rabach, Rinehart, and Heyer..

Everybody (except for Doc and Mawae) battles for positions in the camp..

Re: Time to Build an Offensive Line
 

Yeah, surrounding Rabach with talent won't help him snap in the shotgun or keep him from stupid goalline penalties.

Edwin should start.

Re: Time to Build an Offensive Line
 

[quote=WaldSkins;664559]How come when Heyer doesn't practice it's ok but when Portis doesn't everyone jumps all over him?[/quote]

You're not serious right? Portis doesn't even practice if he feels phantom menstrual cramps coming on.

Re: Time to Build an Offensive Line
 

[quote=53Fan;664569]You're not serious right? Portis doesn't even practice if he feels phantom menstrual cramps coming on.[/quote]

Well Portis is possibly a has-been. Heyer is a never been.

Re: Time to Build an Offensive Line
 

[quote=53Fan;664569]You're not serious right? Portis doesn't even practice if he feels [B]phantom menstrual cramps[/B] coming on.[/quote]

:rofl:

Re: Time to Build an Offensive Line
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;664552]Injuries are a wild-card, especially on the line. I think it is just as likely that McNeill gets hurt as Mawae. Heyer is one of our youngest guys and he was hurt all year.[/quote]

Injuries are a wildcard, however it seems that this team goes into every season holding its breath and crossing their fingers hoping that their older talented offensive linemen don't get injured.

Re: Time to Build an Offensive Line
 

LT: Russel Okung
LG: Derrick Dockery
C: Kevin Mawae/ Matt Tennant
RG: Mike Williams/Edwin Williams
RT: Mike Iupati

Re: Time to Build an Offensive Line
 

or
LT: Levi Jones
LG: Derrick Dockery
C: Matt Tennant
RG: Mike Iupati
RT: Bryan Bulaga

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