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[quote=Lotus;850185][QUOTE=Landry44;850179]I have to take back my previous statement. Robert Griffen has first round talent. I just watched his game against tcu. This kid is excellent passer with great mobility. The only thing that concerns me is his size.

Thanks for the vid! Although he has a bit of a windup, he throws a sweet ball. Good legs. And, while he's not prototypical size, he's bigger than Kellen Moore. And he has commentators who speak ?Russian?[/quote]
That wind up passing motion gives me horrible flashbacks of Jason Campbell. Overall, I think RG3 is an excellent football player and with good coach he could be a very good qb. However, I still believe that Luck, Barkley, Jones, and Foles are franchise qbs. One thing i love about this draft is that we have a lot of options without having to trade away future picks to get a talented qb. The last few years it's only been one guy worth drafting in the first round. In this draft I see 5 or possible 6 guys that have first round talent.

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[quote=Landry44;850187]
That wind up passing motion gives me horrible flashbacks of Jason Campbell. Overall, I think RG3 is an excellent football player and with good coach he could be a very good qb. However, I still believe that Luck, Barkley, Jones, and Foles are franchise qbs. One thing i love about this draft is that we have a lot of options without having to trade away future picks to get a talented qb. The last few years it's only been one guy worth drafting in the first round. In this draft I see 5 or possible 6 guys that have first round talent.[/quote]

Yup. If we are looking for a top-shelf QB (and I think we should), this is a great year to do so.

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[quote=Lotus;850190]Yup. If we are looking for a top-shelf QB (and I think we should), this is a great year to do so.[/quote]
I don't see any reason why we wouldn't go after one of these studs at qb. If we end up in the top 15 we should be able to get one of the top 4 qbs. I'm going to start a thread about next years qb class. I honestly think this is the best qb class I have ever seen.

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I gotta say, if we don't draft a QB in the first round, I would definitely be happy with Vontaze Burfict, Alshon Jeffery, David Decastro the G from Stanford, Manti Te'o, Jayron Hosely CB VT, Dre Kirkpatrick, or Janoris Jenkins the former Florida CB.

All these guys look like future All-pros.

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Don't usually like yahoo sports columns, but here ya go, if you are so inclined:

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/49ers-defensive-tackle-doesn-8217-t-think-Luck-?urn=nfl-wp10439]49ers defensive tackle doesn’t think Luck would be No. 1 pick in SEC - Shutdown Corner - NFL Blog - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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Everyone is talking about drafting a qb. and yes we obviously desperately need a qb. But what about other positions rb,oline,cb? There are many quality players in the 2nd and 3rd rounds since we will most likely go qb in the first. I think we need a running back very bad. Im tired of our rbs who are nothing special and its a highlight if they break a 10 yard run we need some explosiveness. Any prospects at rb or wr that could be in our reach?

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;852495]Everyone is talking about drafting a qb. and yes we obviously desperately need a qb. But what about other positions rb,oline,cb? There are many quality players in the 2nd and 3rd rounds since we will most likely go qb in the first. I think we need a running back very bad. Im tired of our rbs who are nothing special and its a highlight if they break a 10 yard run we need some explosiveness. Any prospects at rb or wr that could be in our reach?[/quote]

I think our "nothing special" RBs have been affected by a pass-first minded OC, mediocre run-blocking offensive line, and having to play catch up in a couple of games. We definitely need to draft (or acquire through FA) quality depth for the o-line and definitely look at a quality FS (since Atogwe has been hampered by injuries).

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;852465]Don't usually like yahoo sports columns, but here ya go, if you are so inclined:

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/49ers-defensive-tackle-doesn-8217-t-think-Luck-?urn=nfl-wp10439]49ers defensive tackle doesn’t think Luck would be No. 1 pick in SEC - Shutdown Corner - NFL*Blog - Yahoo! Sports[/url][/quote]

Must........resist........urge.......to.....scream......hold off.....seizure of.....frustration.

Deep breaths, deep breaths, deep breaths.

ARE YOU FING KIDDING ME!?!?!? REALLY? REALLY? IS THAT SHITTY BACKWATER CONFERENCE REALLY THAT GOOD? DID BOISE STATE THE TEAM THAT WOULD HAVE A LOOSING RECORD IN THE PRECIOUS SEC NOT STOMP UGA IN ATLANTA? KELLEN MOROE COMPLETED 82% OF HIS PASSES AGAINST THEM! DIDN'T AUBURN BARELY BEAT OREGON IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP? ARE YOU TOUCHED IN THE HEAD? YOU SON OF A FUUUUUUUUUUU ITCH! CAN YOU NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE GOOD TEAMS OUTSIDE OF THE GOOD OLE SEC!?!?!?!

DO YOU NOT REMEMBER THAT JAMARCUS RUSSELL DOMINATED YOUR CONFERENCE WHEN IT WAS AT IT'S PEAK?

And by the way the best QB's in the league right now are mostly coming out of the PAC 10 and ACC. Not to mention 2 out of the 3 top QB's right now came out of the Big 10. Not the SEC . My God. Will the overrating of this conference ever end? It's a great conference, probably the best all around but this blanket "Oh if X played in the SEC" crap is getting really freaking old.
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So, I guess you aren't agreeing with the article then.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;852532]So, I guess you aren't agreeing with the article then.[/quote]

Lol, nope. Sorry, it's a disease thats spreading rampant right now. The art of taking a player or team in college football that's having success outside the SEC and saying something like "Oh well, if they done played in the SEC blah blah blah." I have to deal with these hypothetical 'if' statements on a daily basis.

Now I really want to see Boise State or Stanford play LSU or Alabama in the National Championship game, even though the set up is a crock.

And it goes without saying but just in case, 'the shame on you' and the "are you fing kidding me" stuff was directed at Ricky Jean not you.

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I was curious to see what the breakdown of QBs by conference in the NFL right now, so since I really don't feel like doing work right now, here it is. I included the starters, starters on IR (Manning, Henne), benched starters (Rexy, McNabb) and first-round QBs.

ACC QBs:
M. Ryan
M. Schaub
P. Rivers
C. Whitehurst
C. Ponder

Big 10 QBs:
C. Painter
C. Henne
T. Brady
D. Brees

Big 12 QBs:
C. McCoy
B. Gabbert
S. Bradford
J. Freeman

Big East QBs:
M. Vick
M. Hasselbeck
D. McNabb

CAA QBs: J. Flacco

C-USA QBs:
K. Kolb
D. Garrard

Ivy League QBs: R. Fitzpatrick

MAC QBs: Big Ben

Mountain West Conf QBs
A. Dalton
J. Beck

Ohio Valley Conf QBs:T. Romo

Pac-10/12 QBs
A. Rodgers
M. Cassel
M. Moore
M. Sanchez
C. Palmer
A. Smith
J. Locker

SEC QBs:
C. Newton
J. Cutler
T. Tebow
M. Stafford
P. Manning
E. Manning
J. Campbell
R. Grossman

SWAC QBs: T. Jackson

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Give Ponder back :(

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[quote=Dirtbag59;852545]Give Ponder back :([/quote]

Apparently my excel had heard the FSU to the SEC rumors. LOL. Fixed. I added Garrard and McNabb.

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[quote=Ruhskins;852546]Apparently my excel had heard the FSU to the SEC rumors. LOL. Fixed. I added Garrard and McNabb.[/quote]

Further Breakdown of the QB's listed. Super Bowl Wins

ACC - 0
Big 10 - 4
Big XII - 0
Old Big East - 0
MAC - 2
PAC 10/12 - 1
SEC - 2
SEC players not sired by Archie Manning - 0

Appearances
ACC - 0
Big 10 - 5
Big 12 - 0
Big East - 2
Mac - 3
PAC 10/12 - 1
SEC - 4

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Could add Vick to the ACC if you want to look at it that way, though he played in the big east at the time. Pretty good list though Ruhskins, by no means is the SEC a QB conference.