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[quote=FrenchSkin;1286468]Maybe it helps wake 'em all up and get the shot ?[/quote]

Why? There's quite a few reports where vaccinated people are getting pretty sick and are considered "super spreaders." Not to mention, there are thousands of others who are having some serious adverse effects per the vaccine.

Some of y'all are peculiar individuals by constantly telling people what to do, particularly with something as serious as what goes into their bodies. A trial/emergency shot, which what it is technically speaking.

Just let people do what they consider best for them and their bodies.

I know I helped to derail the thread, but let's keep this on Jonathan Allen and training camp.

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J. Allen is really good!! Glad we kept him. Go Team!

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[quote=PorkSkins;1286474]Why? There's quite a few reports where vaccinated people are getting pretty sick and are considered "super spreaders." Not to mention, there are thousands of others who are having some serious adverse effects per the vaccine.

Some of y'all are peculiar individuals by constantly telling people what to do, particularly with something as serious as what goes into their bodies. A trial/emergency shot, which what it is technically speaking.

Just let people do what they consider best for them and their bodies.

I know I helped to derail the thread, but let's keep this on Jonathan Allen and training camp.[/quote]

The problem is folks not getting vaccinated continues the spread of the virus. So yeah do what you want with your body but it’s a selfish act, we are all in this together.

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J. Allen is really good!! Glad we kept him. Go Team!

And how about Logan Thomas!! We're building baby.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1286474]Why? There's quite a few reports where vaccinated people are getting pretty sick and are considered "super spreaders." Not to mention, there are thousands of others who are having some serious adverse effects per the vaccine.

Some of y'all are peculiar individuals by constantly telling people what to do, particularly with something as serious as what goes into their bodies. A trial/emergency shot, which what it is technically speaking.

Just let people do what they consider best for them and their bodies.

I know I helped to derail the thread, but let's keep this on Jonathan Allen and training camp.[/quote]

Chill. My position has pretty much [I][U][B]0%[/B] to do with medical considerations[/U][/I] (I wouldn't have commented in this thread if that was the case). From that standpoint I'm all for your body your choice and I get young healthy people want to take time to make this decision.

From a football standpoint though, like it or not, with the NFL covid rules, not being vaccinated is going to be a competitive disadvantage (preparation, tests, missing games etc...) and we now how much the NFL is a health/availability league. [I]If some of our key players miss regular seasons games because of not being vaccinated and getting the covid/being in contact with someone having it... it could derail a potentially very promising season ![/I] That's my concern. 100% football issue, the rest is none of my business.

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[quote=mredskins;1286477]The problem is folks not getting vaccinated continues the spread of the virus. So yeah do what you want with your body but it’s a selfish act, we are all in this together.[/quote]

Keep believing people who aren't vaccinated are the only ones spreading the virus. There's loads of legitimate reports of vaccinated people getting the virus, and they're not exactly getting it from non-vaccinated folks. So, spare me the trite "selfish" riot.

It's their bodies and their choice.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1286481]Keep believing people who aren't vaccinated are spreading the virus. There's loads of legitimate reports of vaccinated people getting the virus, and they're not exactly getting it from non-vaccinated folks. [B]So, spare me the trite "selfish" riot.

It's their bodies and their choice[/B].[/quote]

I agree with that, but with the NFL rules it could cost us some games. Like it or not it's the way it's gonna be in 2021. My only concerns are football related.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1286482]I agree with that, but with the NFL rules it could cost us some games. Like it or not it's the way it's gonna be in 2021. My only concerns are football related.[/quote]

Well, at least you're honest. Once the league starts dealing with vaccinated players and coaches testing positive, then you'll see a change in their policies for positive tested players and coaches.

I could very well be wrong, but I sense this will be the case.

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Individual Liberties >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>winning some football games

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1286484]Individual Liberties >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>winning some football games[/quote]

Haha! I'm there with you! One thing I can say, he's honest about it. LOL

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[quote=PorkSkins;1286483]Well, at least you're honest. Once the league starts dealing with vaccinated players and coaches testing positive, then you'll see a change in their policies for positive tested players and coaches.

I could very well be wrong, but I sense this will be the case.[/quote]

Maybe it'll change... I really don't know.
All I know is if I was earning millions to play ball, and I knew that not being vaccinated could cost my team some games, even if I thought the rule was stupid, even if I was scared of the vaccine, I'd look at the millions of people who got the shot and are fine, look at my teammates who got the shot and are fine, look at the upcoming schedule, and go "meeeh, give it to me and let's move on".
Again, [I]not saying I wish it was mandatory, not saying the NFL process is perfectly adapted to the situation[/I] (very little research on the subject), all I know is not having enough vaccinated players wasn't on my list of reasons why a football team loses games...

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1286487]Maybe it'll change... I really don't know.
All I know is if I was earning millions to play ball, and I knew that not being vaccinated could cost my team some games, even if I thought the rule was stupid, even if I was scared of the vaccine, I'd look at the millions of people who got the shot and are fine, look at my teammates who got the shot and are fine, look at the upcoming schedule, and go "meeeh, give it to me and let's move on".
Again, [I]not saying I wish it was mandatory, not saying the NFL process is perfectly adapted to the situation[/I] (very little research on the subject), all I know is not having enough vaccinated players wasn't on my list of reasons why a football team loses games...[/quote]


People may be fine now, but no amount of money will make many people go against their convictions. I'll say again, this is a trial "vaccination," and no one is really aware of the long-term effects. There's a bunch of people who are currently dealing with adverse effects per the shot.

Watch what I tell you.... Vaccinated players and coaches will eventually test positive, and the league will change their protocol midstream.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1286488]People may be fine now, but no amount of money will make many people go against their convictions. I'll say again, this is a trial "vaccination," and no one is really aware of the long-term effects. There's a bunch of people who are currently dealing with adverse effects per the shot.

Watch what I tell you.... Vaccinated players and coaches will eventually test positive, and the league will change their protocol midstream.[/quote]

Maybe it will. I have zero idea about that. Again, just looking at the rule as it stands, I'm, as a football fan, [I]hoping[/I] we're not the least vaccinated team in the NFL come September. The rest is none of my business, especially when I come on a football board.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1286482]I agree with that, but with the NFL rules it could cost us some games. Like it or not it's the way it's gonna be in 2021. My only concerns are football related.[/quote]

Not only could it cost us some guys, Ron is high risk due to his previous cancer.

I guess we should just let Ron go now for his personal safety and hire a coach who can stand up to COVID.

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[quote=mooby;1286490]Not only could it cost us some guys, Ron is high risk due to his previous cancer.

I guess we should just let Ron go now for his personal safety and hire a coach who can stand up to COVID.[/quote]

Yeah you would also expect them to take into consideration the health of their seemingly very well liked head coach. But I was trying to not derail this thread too much :D
Strictly from a football standpoint, it's a disadvantage.