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From what he is showing in the Peach Bowl, he may not be there at 19.

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[quote=Ohioskins;1271178]From what he is showing in the Peach Bowl, he may not be there at 19.[/quote]

Another player in Cincy who seems to be a playmaker #6 Cook.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1271083]19: R1 P19*QB Mac Jones - Alabama
51: R2 P19*WR Rashod Bateman - Minnesota
78: R3 P14*S Paris Ford - Pittsburgh
82: R3 P18*LB Dylan Moses - Alabama
121: R4 P19*TE Charlie Kolar - Iowa State
160: R5 P19*OT Dillon Radunz - North Dakota State
238: R7 P16*CB Nate Hobbs - Illinois
241: R7 P19*G Kevin Jarvis - Michigan State[/quote]

This might be my favorite prediction I've seen yet. Love this list and all of the positions it hits. I've been talking up Mac Jones for a while and this morning, saw a mock draft showing us taking him as the 5th QB off the board.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1271000]19:
R1 P19*QB Kyle Trask - Florida
51: R2 P19*TE Pat Freiermuth - Penn State
78: R3 P14*WR Terrace Marshall Jr. - LSU
82: R3 P18*S Paris Ford - Pittsburgh
121: R4 P19*OT Dillon Radunz - North Dakota State
160: R5 P19*G Tommy Kraemer - Notre Dame
238: R7 P16*CB Myles Jones - Texas A&M
241: R7 P19*LB Paddy Fisher - Northwestern[/quote]

I would take out Trask and put in Jones. If we could go QB, TE and WR and have all 3 be good enough to start that would be so good.

With the year Jones has had he is going to go in the 1st. His ball placement and accuracy have been as good as anyone in college. But he just doesn't have that mobility that we are seeing in today's QB's. He reminds me of a Matt Ryan type. Probably good enough to start at some point, maybe right away, but will never be an elite player.

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Mac Jones is really really good.

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Lawrence threw a pass in first drive on 3rd down that was complete .. however only One foot in bounds ... that is a huge difference in the college vs pro game ..I really never thought about it much ...

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Fields is lighting up the field!!😀....Lawrence does not look like the number one pick everyone has him at ..

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Wilson or Fields? Fields or Wilson?

The race fpr QB2 is gonna be interesting, I'd take either one. But won't be an option for us if we win Sunday. Probably not even if we lose.

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I would not touch any Ohio St QB with a ten foot poll. They don't do well in the the NFL, at least to date.....

[url]https://www.sportscasting.com/dwayne-haskins-becomes-the-latest-in-a-long-line-of-ohio-state-qbs-to-flop-in-the-nfl-no-joe-burrow-doesnt-count/[/url]

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Those 2 Tight ends for OSU looking good. We need some help there

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[quote=VTSkins1961;1271205]I would not touch any Ohio St QB with a ten foot poll. They don't do well in the the NFL, at least to date.....

[url]https://www.sportscasting.com/dwayne-haskins-becomes-the-latest-in-a-long-line-of-ohio-state-qbs-to-flop-in-the-nfl-no-joe-burrow-doesnt-count/[/url][/quote]

You can not judge college QB's by past players that came before them. If you are watching the OSU Clemson game it is clear in this game who the better qb is.Not saying Fields is better but he is better tonight and it's not close. Fields has flat out dropped some dimes tonight.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1271204]Wilson or Fields? Fields or Wilson?

The race fpr QB2 is gonna be interesting, I'd take either one. But won't be an option for us if we win Sunday. Probably not even if we lose.[/quote]

Fields looks like the best player in the country tonight.

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Yeah he does

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OSU offensive line is awesome. Giving Fields all day to let his guys get deep down the field and he's delivering. Very impressive.

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[quote=rocnrik;1271203]Fields is lighting up the field!!😀....Lawrence does not look like the number one pick everyone has him at ..[/quote]

Last year against LSU Burrow clearly was the better QB. Tonight he is being outplayed again on the biggest stage.

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I wonder what the Jax jags are thinking about now ....

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[quote=skinsfan69;1271208]You can not judge college QB's by past players that came before them. If you are watching the OSU Clemson game it is clear in this game who the better qb is.Not saying Fields is better but he is better tonight and it's not close. Fields has flat out dropped some dimes tonight.[/quote]

You sure you didn't mean "you shouldn't" instead of you can't? Sounds like you are telling me what I can't and can do lol But getting back to the stat's. This is just my opinion backed up by statistics. Can Fields be the real deal - obsolutly he can but odds are not in his favor...

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Lawrence is a great QB. BUT a lot of his "greatness" has come from rolling up big numbers against competition that was totally outclassed by the Athletes Clemson put on the field. But when he has been in the big games against pro-level competition, his body of work is not so shiny. He will still be the Number One pick int he draft. But tonite's game shows he has some warts.

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[quote=Ohioskins;1271224]Lawrence is a great QB. BUT a lot of his "greatness" has come from rolling up big numbers against competition that was totally outclassed by the Athletes Clemson put on the field. But when he has been in the big games against pro-level competition, his body of work is not so shiny. He will still be the Number One pick int he draft. But tonite's game shows he has some warts.[/quote]

Always loved the “experts” drooling over his 4 TDs in a half against The Citadel....🧐. Obviously he’s a really good QB, but the notion of tanking for him two years in advance is a little over the top.

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And don't judge Fields by the body of work from other Ohio State QB"s. He is on the same level as Lawrence. Those two have been ranked 1 & 2 for practically their whole lives as athletes. And they are now both 1 and 1 against each other.

But perhaps the biggest difference between Fields and past OSU QB's is Ryan Day. Ray does not run a college "gimmicky" kind of offense. He develops his QB's inside of a program that uses a NFL style offense. So I think Fields will enter the pros with a different kind of mentality than previous OSU QB's.

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Lawrence is still the no brainer #1 pick

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[quote=MTK;1271230]Lawrence is still the no brainer #1 pick[/quote]

It ain’t close

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I agree. But I think it is closer than it appears at first blush.

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Roullier resigned to 4 year deal, one less hole to fill

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1271239]Roullier resigned to 4 year deal, one less hole to fill[/quote]

Good. I hope that's the first of many more to come. Scherff, Darby, Sundberg...

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So if you're the Jets do you take Fields at #2 or stick with Darnold and address other needs?

If they take Fields, presuming the projections see us missing out on a top QB prospect, maybe go after Darnold after the draft when he's likely 'cheaper' to obtain? Bring in someone like Tyrod Taylor and have them compete?

Again, this is just on the assumption we have little or no prospect of a franchise QB when we pick AND we don't pay over the odds.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1271200]Mac Jones is really really good.[/QUOTE]I like Mac Jones... I'm kinda leaning toward wanting WFT to draft him late in the first if he's there. I have a feeling he's going to rise up draft boards though.


And get this... Our offensive and defensive leaders would be... Wait for it....

Mac and Chase


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:lol:

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1271242]So if you're the Jets do you take Fields at #2 or stick with Darnold and address other needs?

If they take Fields, presuming the projections see us missing out on a top QB prospect, maybe go after Darnold after the draft when he's likely 'cheaper' to obtain? Bring in someone like Tyrod Taylor and have them compete?

Again, this is just on the assumption we have little or no prospect of a franchise QB when we pick AND we don't pay over the odds.[/quote]

I'd give Darnold 1 more year with a real coach. They have the number 2 pick and a shit ton of cap space. They can improve the offense drastically if they draft well and sign a couple guys. I think they'll definitely sign 1 of them big FA receivers.

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I hope we draft the best QB still available with our first pick.

I am not convinced Alex Smith will come back next year. My impression of Allen is that he’s probably a journeyman but a decent backup QB. I’m not sure about Heinickle except that he has potential even though he is “short” at 6’. Let Heinickle, the rookie first pick and Allen compete for the QB spot.

Until we get a very mobile, franchise QB, we will not be able to balance our excellent defense with an equally good offense.


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[quote=Warthog;1271947]I hope we draft the best QB still available with our first pick.

I am not convinced Alex Smith will come back next year. My impression of Allen is that he’s probably a journeyman but a decent backup QB. I’m not sure about Heinickle except that he has potential even though he is “short” at 6’. Let Heinickle, the rookie first pick and Allen compete for the QB spot.

Until we get a very mobile, franchise QB, we will not be able to balance our excellent defense with an equally good offense.

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No one that has played QB for us this year is the future. Alex needs to retire and Allen/Heinicke are competing for who is No. 2 for most of next year (that's a fantastic and needed job, and well paid).

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[QUOTE=Warthog;1271947]I hope we draft the best QB still available with our first pick.

I am not convinced Alex Smith will come back next year. My impression of Allen is that he’s probably a journeyman but a decent backup QB. I’m not sure about Heinickle except that he has potential even though he is “short” at 6’. Let Heinickle, the rookie first pick and Allen compete for the QB spot.

Until we get a very mobile, franchise QB, we will not be able to balance our excellent defense with an equally good offense.


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I'd add a true #2 WR to take heat of Scary, and another TE to partner Thomas. We have the backfield (though I'd be tempted to add a bruiser to replace Barber), we just need the targets for a new QB to throw to. Can't help wondering if AS had more guys to target, whether his passing stats would have been much better?...

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[quote=VTSkins1961;1271219]Y[B]ou sure you didn't mean "you shouldn't" instead of you can't? Sounds like you are telling me what I can't and can do lo[/B]l But getting back to the stat's. This is just my opinion backed up by statistics. Can Fields be the real deal - obsolutly he can but odds are not in his favor...[/quote]

you know what I mean smart ass...lol.

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[quote=MissouriSkin;1271225]Always loved the “experts” drooling over his 4 TDs in a half against The Citadel....🧐. Obviously he’s a really good QB, but the notion of tanking for him two years in advance is a little over the top.[/quote]

I just don't see him on the same level as Burrow was last year. I look at his games against LSU and the other night, two times against top competition and he was not the best QB on the field. He was CLEARLY outplayed in both.

Mac Jones looks like a better passer. Obviously not a better athlete or runner, but a better drop back passer.

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Seems to me that if we want to get a "franchise QB" in this draft, we are going to have to give up something to move up into the top 10. Where we will be drafting, the best we can hope for is Trask or the kid from Cincinnati and neither of those two seem like a sure thing.

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Seems like a lot of WRs and LTs in the second half of the 1st round.

Things are setting up nicely.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1272065]you know what I mean smart ass...lol.[/quote]

yeah I was being a smart ass... lol it is all good

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[quote=skinsfan69;1272066]I just don't see him on the same level as Burrow was last year. I look at his games against LSU and the other night, two times against top competition and he was not the best QB on the field. He was CLEARLY outplayed in both.

Mac Jones looks like a better passer. Obviously not a better athlete or runner, but a better drop back passer.[/quote]

I just want want some one with more than 2 years starting and it would also be better if they played in a pro style offense... Haskins was a mistake I am a little leery of Heisman trophy winners because of pas history but that does not mean the won't work out... I like Mac Jones also. I think Lawrence, Fields and Wilson will be gone by the time we pick unless we trade up. Mac Jones may also be off the board as well.

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T Law has all the tools, will he translate? I think so but you can never say for sure

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[quote=Ohioskins;1272076]Seems to me that if we want to get a "franchise QB" in this draft, we are going to have to give up something to move up into the top 10. Where we will be drafting, the best we can hope for is Trask or the kid from Cincinnati and neither of those two seem like a sure thing.[/quote]

I really like Desmond Ridder from Cincy as a QB, he would need to sit a year and learn but he big upside to be a solid QB.