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[quote=skinsfaninok;1290084]Washington's highest graded players from yesterday's loss to the chargers:

- Montez Sweat (79.4)
- Terry McLaurin (78.6)
- Daron Payne (77.2)
- Jonathan Allen (76.7)

lowest graded players from yesterday's loss to the chargers:

- Benjamin St. Juste (30.6)
- Jamin Davis (36.9)
- Jon Bostic (45.9)
- Adam Humphries (46.1)[/quote]

IDK who grades these but Allen and Payne to me are are such JAGS. They are not difference makers. They can not cave in a pocket. They are not disruptive.

Is there a grade on Del Rio? How about a effing 0 for that guy.

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[quote=MTK;1290110]We're only going as far as the defense can take us this year. And they continue to show that against a top tier offense, they are easily overwhelmed. And the QB gauntlet on the schedule is only going to get tougher, Herbert was just the beginning.[/quote]

Thye will bounce back this week against maybe the worst OL in football and a very avg QB in jones... But then the tough stretch begins.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1290113]IDK who grades these but Allen and Payne to me are are such JAGS. They are not difference makers. They can not cave in a pocket. They are not disruptive.

Is there a grade on Del Rio? How about a effing 0 for that guy.[/quote]

70's are average to be honest lol

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Washington adds QB after Fitzpatrick injury
[url]https://www.thescore.com/s/18987094[/url]

To prevent Cam conversation.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1290122]Washington adds QB after Fitzpatrick injury
[url]https://www.thescore.com/s/18987094[/url]

To prevent Cam conversation.

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Let's be honest, if Heinicke and Allen get injured I wouldn't mind them bringing Cam in. The season is lost at that point anyways.

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[quote=MTK;1290088]Fitz had way too small of a sample to really tell how he was going to look in this offense. TH to me was eh. He's ok but nothing spectacular. Hopefully with some first team reps he'll be better prepared for Thurs. Either way it's clear QB is going to be an issue again this year. Probably won't be long until Kyle Allen gets in there, and then probably some guy we'll sign off the street.[/quote]

Heinicke will get hurt. It's just a matter of when. We will have at least 3 different starting QBs this year.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1290124]Let's be honest, if Heinicke and Allen get injured I wouldn't mind them bringing Cam in. The season is lost at that point anyways.[/QUOTE]Why bring Cam in if the season is lost? What do you gain? If Heinicke can't be a starting level qb then write this season off, draft a qb next year and move forward. Nothing at all to gain from having Cam save a few games at the end.

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Please stop the we could have signed Herbert over Chase crap. We had a 1st round QB on the team looking to make the expected jump year 2 with a brand new coaching staff that could maximize his potential. And oh yeah, Chase was everyone's dream pick and we were lucky we got him.
What team do you know that would have passed on Chase Young to draft 2 first round QBs in 2 straight years?

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[quote=skinsnut;1290129]Please stop the we could have signed Herbert over Chase crap. We had a 1st round QB on the team looking to make the expected jump year 2 with a brand new coaching staff that could maximize his potential. And oh yeah, Chase was everyone's dream pick and we were lucky we got him.
What team do you know that would have passed on Chase Young to draft 2 first round QBs in 2 straight years?[/quote]

Hindsight is always 20/20...

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I was all in on Tua but after a full season and 1 game yesterday I'm glad we took CY still.. Although he was not good yesterday I still have faith he will be our mega star we need for the next 10 years.

BUT... If you were to ask me if I'd take Herbert or Watson over CY? Yes in a heartbeat

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Also Cam is still a very good player, in fact he was really good in the PS, the reason he got cut is he won't get the shot (that was a legit rumor) so No he won't come to DC then, especially with RR's health . Cam is better than TH tho

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1290127]Why bring Cam in if the season is lost? What do you gain? If Heinicke can't be a starting level qb then write this season off, draft a qb next year and move forward. Nothing at all to gain from having Cam save a few games at the end.

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Ah - you would rather tank the season with Pat Shurmur's kid than bring in someone with experience to play qb - I don't disagree with that line of thinking at all actually.

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Ron Rivera is not a tank guy, we could of done that last yr and didn't..

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1290138]Ron Rivera is not a tank guy, we could of done that last yr and didn't..[/QUOTE]Last year we would have tanked if the division didn't start so poorly. In fact, going for two in the first Giants game was a bit of a tank move.

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[quote=skinsnut;1290129]Please stop the we could have signed Herbert over Chase crap. We had a 1st round QB on the team looking to make the expected jump year 2 with a brand new coaching staff that could maximize his potential. And oh yeah, Chase was everyone's dream pick and we were lucky we got him.
What team do you know that would have passed on Chase Young to draft 2 first round QBs in 2 straight years?[/quote]

You mean the guy who has the maturity level of a 15 year old?

I personally wanted Tua. You take the QB always over a DE. Always...

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1290114]Thye will bounce back this week against maybe the worst OL in football and a very avg QB in jones... But then the tough stretch begins.[/QUOTE]


There is no such thing as a bounce back week for us. We have trouble in the bye week not taking an L.

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[quote=punch it in;1290146]There is no such thing as a bounce back week for us. We have trouble in the bye week not taking an L.[/quote]

Sad but true

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You mean we weren't tanking when we started 1-5 and lost to the Giants by going for 2 rather than a game tying XP in the last seconds?

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1290149]You mean we weren't tanking when we started 1-5 and lost to the Giants by going for 2 rather than a game tying XP in the last seconds?[/quote]

I thought we were but clearly not the way they finished

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Chargers LT Rashawn Slater was awesome in his debut. Per
@PFF
, Slater vs. rookie OL:

2nd highest overall grade (73.5)
2nd highest pass block grade (79.9)
2nd most snaps (81)

For 53 of those 81 snaps, he was staring at Chase Young in front of him pre-snap. Zero pressures allowed

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Well at least we will get to see TH. Now he gets his chance. Let's see what he does with it.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1290150]I thought we were but clearly not the way they finished[/QUOTE]When the choice became tank or division title he chose division title. This year that won't be the choice.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1290156]When the choice became tank or division title he chose division title. This year that won't be the choice.

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If we couldn't stop the Chargers WRs what is Dallas going to do to us? LOL

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“It was probably the biggest disappointment,” Rivera said. “We had some opportunities, and we didn’t convert them. We had a third-and-long at the end and gave it up.

“That’s probably it right there. It was fourth-and-7, and we thought we had an opportunity to get it pinned. And we ended up with third-and-(16) … and you would like to believe you’re going to convert that. Unfortunately, we didn’t so we have to take a look at that. … We got an opportunity on third-and-real long there, and we didn’t take care of business.”

Rivera and defensive tackle Jonathan Allen said missed assignments, and players doing too much and being out of position, were among the main ills on Sunday. Poor tackling was another commonly cited pitfall.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1290152]Chargers LT Rashawn Slater was awesome in his debut. Per
@PFF
, Slater vs. rookie OL:

2nd highest overall grade (73.5)
2nd highest pass block grade (79.9)
2nd most snaps (81)

For 53 of those 81 snaps, he was staring at Chase Young in front of him pre-snap. Zero pressures allowed[/quote]

There is so much hype with Young. He is a good to really good player. Nothing more, nothing less. People calling him this generational player like he was Lawrence Taylor. That was just a joke to me. Still early in his career but I just don't see a great player. I see a good player. He is not better than Dexter. Dexter played BIG on the biggest stage.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1290161]There is so much hype with Young. He is a good to really good player. Nothing more, nothing less. People calling him this generational player like he was Lawrence Taylor. That was just a joke to me. Still early in his career but I just don't see a great player. I see a good player. He is not better than Dexter. Dexter played BIG on the biggest stage.[/quote]

Yeah he got outshined by Bosa big time yesterday, among other edge rushers like C.Jones , TJ Watt etc. Sweat even looked better

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QB needs to be the 1st pick next year. I don't give a fuck who else is available. When the pick rolls around, draft the best available QB.

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Cosmi got fucking worked. Yeah yeah I know he's a rookie but that rookie could have sat a while and learned behind Moses.

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Game recap:

Their o-line > our d-line
Their offensive skill players > Our back 7
Their d-line > our o-line
Their back 7 > our offensive skill players
Their coaches > our coaches

Other than that, we almost had them.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1290165]QB needs to be the 1st pick next year. I don't give a fuck who else is available. When the pick rolls around, draft the best available QB.[/quote]

You would hope they realize that but this team....

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1290165]QB needs to be the 1st pick next year. I don't give a fuck who else is available. When the pick rolls around, draft the best available QB.[/QUOTE]And that's how we got Haskins

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1290169]And that's how we got Haskins

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Hopefully Cosmi is our franchise left tackle, we have our franchise pass rusher. Time to get a QB. Keep swinging until you hit a dinger.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1290165]QB needs to be the 1st pick next year. I don't give a fuck who else is available. When the pick rolls around, draft the best available QB.[/quote]

I would just expand a little and say don't wait to see who falls to you, go get the guy you want even if it means a major trade.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1290101]Yeah sure, we can say that if you want. But the reality is, one side of the ball did enough to win, and the other did not.

I'm just not ready to say that this is a bad defense after one game. The offense on the other hand, has shown the same thing for the last 21 games, so I'm much more comfortable saying that the offense stinks.[/QUOTE]


I think you are only looking at points allowed, which is important but not everything. Third down conversions allowed was absolutely as bad as it gets - which doesn’t only allow for points but field position. Stopping them on third down and forcing them to punt from deep in their own territory is crucial for our offense.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1290157]If we couldn't stop the Chargers WRs what is Dallas going to do to us? LOL[/quote]

Dallas is going to destroy this defense.

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[quote=MTK;1290166]Cosmi got fucking worked. Yeah yeah I know he's a rookie but that rookie could have sat a while and learned behind Moses.[/quote]

That move is 100% on Ron and so far it looks like a bad one.

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We all wanted a W to start the season. I'll admit that there was a lot to not like about the game yesterday, but it's unbelievable to me that so many are ready to throw in the towel after a 4 point loss to a real good team.

It's probably actually a blessing in disguise that Fitzpatrick went down. I never wanted him here in the first place. There were better options out there if you weren't going to draft a QB, or roll with Taylor.

Let's see if they can bounce back on Thursday before drawing too many conclusions about how the season will end up.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1290170]Hopefully Cosmi is our franchise left tackle, we have our franchise pass rusher. Time to get a QB. Keep swinging until you hit a dinger.[/quote]

Who is the franchise pass rusher????? We don't have a franchise pass rusher.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1290169]And that's how we got Haskins

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+1

If Dan Snyder fucks this up one more time... I think I just might...








[SIZE="1"]wait a couple years for the pick to fail and then bitch and moan on here about how we're doomed[/SIZE]

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1290176]We all wanted a W to start the season. I'll admit that there was a lot to not like about the game yesterday, but it's unbelievable to me that so many are ready to throw in the towel after a 4 point loss to a real good team.

It's probably actually a blessing in disguise that Fitzpatrick went down. I never wanted him here in the first place. There were better options out there if you weren't going to draft a QB, or roll with Taylor.

Let's see if they can bounce back on Thursday before drawing too many conclusions about how the season will end up.[/quote]

They were 7 and 9 last year, not sure when the Chargers became a power house.