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[quote=Audi;684331]If what you're saying is true, then how did the team make the playoffs in 2005 and 2007? No, they did not make the Super Bowl, but they also did not have as horrible a record as with Jason Campbell.

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They had superb QB play both playoff seasons. In 2005, Mark Brunell, who took over for an injured Patrick Ramsey on opening day, played lights out as did the whole team. MB's stats: 3,050 yards, 23 TD's, 10 INT's...career year for him.

In 2007, Todd Collins won 4 games in a row, beating the cowboys to sneak into the playoffs at 9 and 7. Collins that season had the #2 passer ranking behind only Tom Brady.

With JC we were not getting superb QB play. We were getting barely mediocre play, and that is why the other two guys (Brunell, Collins), were able to do so much more with essentially the same talent...

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[quote=Dirtbag359;684311]I was talking about the crazy people that live there, and no not the gays....well some of the weirdos happen to be gay but thats neither here nor there. Theres also this guy named SFREDSKIN that lives there and let me tell you, he's like King of the Crazies.[/quote]

Oh no doubt, there's a bunch of freaks in SF. Halloween last 365 days and there's lots of cornholios and carpet munchers (mainly in Berkeley).

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paging Gtripp

[url=http://gforce083ts.webs.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=5432821]Gforce083 Trade Site - Jason Campbell NFT[/url]

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He's likely gonna be Raider or Bill. A lot of other teams are committed to a QB, one has one that would probably beat him easily(Moore), the other has said no interest(Jacksonville)

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[quote=tryfuhl;684372]wo.. how u no that?[/quote]
Chris Mortensen of ESPN. What I posted was a quote from his twitter account.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;684394]Chris Mortensen of ESPN. What I posted was a quote from his twitter account.[/quote]

:laughing2:doh:

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[quote=sandtrapjack;684394]Chris Mortensen of ESPN. What I posted was a quote from his twitter account.[/quote]:smashfrea:Flush::goodjob:

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Bad situation for him...again. I hope he starts for a team next year that is not the Redskins (barring a DM5 injury). Id love to get Al Davis to bite on a Haynesworth JC trade

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[quote=Audi;684331]If what you're saying is true, then how did the team make the playoffs in 2005 and 2007? No, they did not make the Super Bowl, but they also did not have as horrible a record as with Jason Campbell.

Also, I don't understand how it's the organization's fault when Jason Campbell misses simple reads that have been highlighted ad nauseum. Did Campbell drop back and start thinking about "organizational instability" when Santana Moss or Malcolm Kelly broke wide open?

Was Campbell thinking about "organizational instability" when he forgot the down and distance and decided to check it to a run play to Betts on 3rd and long?

Was Campbell thinking about "organizational instability" when he ran past the line of scrimmage and threw an interception?

I don't think so.[/quote]I have no idea if you are being serious or not. I think you are playing all of us for fools.

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Edit - nevermind. I'm tired.

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[quote=Audi;684331]If what you're saying is true, then how did the team make the playoffs in 2005 and 2007? No, they did not make the Super Bowl, but they also did not have as horrible a record as with Jason Campbell.

Also, I don't understand how it's the organization's fault when Jason Campbell misses simple reads that have been highlighted ad nauseum. Did Campbell drop back and start thinking about "organizational instability" when Santana Moss or Malcolm Kelly broke wide open?

Was Campbell thinking about "organizational instability" when he forgot the down and distance and decided to check it to a run play to Betts on 3rd and long?

Was Campbell thinking about "organizational instability" when he ran past the line of scrimmage and threw an interception?

I don't think so.[/quote]

While I haven't read your entire rant, you basically are defending the POS organization we had in order to just prove that Campbell was a bad QB?

Campbell was a bad QB as a result of a combination of his own faults as well as the terrible situation he was put by the front office of this team. Many QBs would have failed under the situations he was in and he didn't have enough talent to overcome them. Plain and simple. A Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Drew Brees can overcome these things, not an average QB like Campbell.

If you want to feel good about yourself and kick the guy while he's down, feel free to do so. But don't come with this stupid argument that the Cerrato/Snyder regime gave him opportunities to win. The entire Cerrato/Snyder regime was a failure and please don't insult our intelligence by defending it just because you have a petty bias against one player.

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[quote=tryfuhl;684382]paging Gtripp

[url=http://gforce083ts.webs.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=5432821]Gforce083 Trade Site - Jason Campbell NFT[/url][/quote]

GTripp needs a rival statistician. Someone to play Mel Kiper/Todd McShay to his Todd McShay/Mel Kiper.

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Man I just don't have the patience to analyze all of that stuff haha

Well with the humidity below 75pct and wind above 10mph adjusted for whether the NT's shoes were tied bunny ears style or the snake wrapping up the bunny, he completed 7-10 passes past the 1st down marker if the ref had a grass stain on his uniform from an inadvertent hit on the previous play, unless the wind was coming from SSW and creating a swirl from the upper bowl on down, behind the our own 35 yard line, unless we got there from a holding call

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[quote=GTripp0012;684435]I have no idea if you are being serious or not. I think you are playing all of us for fools.[/quote]

I'm not surprised you have no idea.

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[quote=Ruhskins;684438]While I haven't read your entire rant, you basically are defending the POS organization we had in order to just prove that Campbell was a bad QB?

Campbell was a bad QB as a result of a combination of his own faults as well as the terrible situation he was put by the front office of this team. Many QBs would have failed under the situations he was in and he didn't have enough talent to overcome them. Plain and simple. A Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Drew Brees can overcome these things, not an average QB like Campbell.

If you want to feel good about yourself and kick the guy while he's down, feel free to do so. But don't come with this stupid argument that the Cerrato/Snyder regime gave him opportunities to win. The entire Cerrato/Snyder regime was a failure and please don't insult our intelligence by defending it just because you have a petty bias against one player.[/quote]

The Cerrato/Snyder regime's failures culminated in one year and that's 2009.

Mark Brunell and Todd Collins are proof that you don't need Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Drew Brees to overcome the "terrible situation" that Jason Campbell was placed in. Even Patrick Ramsey did better with worse.

Don't let your hate for Cerrato/Snyder blind you from Jason Campbell's shortcomings. The evidence is there.