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Coff 10-03-2016 10:06 AM

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Hard to imagine the defense could have looked worse. Against a terrible team with a third string quarterback, the defense managed to surrender just shy of 400 yards. Crowell and Johnson averaged 6.9 yards per carry over 24 carries. There aren't words to explain how bad that is. The Browns coverted two-thirds of third downs, and how many of those were third-and-long?

It is me or does this team blitz less on third and long than just about any defense you've ever seen? And what's the point of dropping every back into coverage if the opponent is going to covert anyway?

Schneed10 10-03-2016 11:01 AM

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The maddening part is the defense doesn't seem to learn from its mistakes. They continue to give too much cushion and free run on third downs. Get up in the receivers' face and challenge them already.

TheMalcolmConnection 10-03-2016 11:20 AM

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The Browns aren't the garbage team on offense everyone is acting like they are.

In run blocking/pass pro, I believe at least three of their offensive linemen rank in the top ten. Reiter was owned yesterday, but you have a future HOFer (maybe) in Long and two other great blockers. Crowell is also a BEAST of a back.

Kessler also took what the defense gave him. Reminded me a lot of a less mobile Dak.

TheMalcolmConnection 10-03-2016 11:21 AM

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The biggest thing I noticed was our lack of pressure. We were playing safe with our DBs and the pressure just never got there. Even when we sent a blitz it was picked up.

Schneed10 10-03-2016 12:10 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1150628]The biggest thing I noticed was our lack of pressure. We were playing safe with our DBs and the pressure just never got there. Even when we sent a blitz it was picked up.[/quote]

That was the loss of Kerrigan you were noticing. After last week maybe now people will STFU about getting on that guy's case.

skinsfaninok 10-03-2016 12:15 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1150628]The biggest thing I noticed was our lack of pressure. We were playing safe with our DBs and the pressure just never got there. Even when we sent a blitz it was picked up.[/quote]

We need to bring Sua more, he's a playmaker period. Norman never needs to blitz because he's literally the only guy that can cover... Where has smith been?? Huge surprise so far, and not a good one. Hopefully RK and Bree will be back

skinsfaninok 10-03-2016 12:17 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1150632]That was the loss of Kerrigan you were noticing. After last week maybe now people will STFU about getting on that guy's case.[/quote]

How about Trent Murphy?? he is 6th in the league in sacks and on pace for 16! Thats crazy

FrenchSkin 10-03-2016 12:59 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1150564]I'll focus on the negatives:

Shitty tackling (lack of)
Lack of a run D up the middle (pathetic)
[B]Josh Norman 1st half[/B]
Cousins holding onto the ball again resulting in a sack and not taking advantage of the turnover.
Where was Djax?
Brutton
Getting tired of Barry not adjusting (if we would have lost, I would have fired his ass and promote Fewell or Manusky as DC)[/quote]

1) Do you think part of that bad 1st half by Norman was on him recovering for illness this week? He really didn't seem a 100% to me. On The Pryor TD he got safety help and was outrun. I mean when I get sick I'm not well for a few days, I know I'm not a professional athlete, but this is not something you can train.

Anyway, he showed he was a great player during the 2nd half, and I love his tackling. For a high paid CB, he's not shying away from contact at all.

2) I'm really high on this O-line.

3) Am I the only one thinking we miss Keenan Robinson ? Compton might be a great teammate and leader... but he's not strong enough for the position IMO. Foster was the only one tackling properly but he's not elite.

4) I'm really high on this O-line.

TheMalcolmConnection 10-03-2016 01:02 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1150632]That was the loss of Kerrigan you were noticing. After last week maybe now people will STFU about getting on that guy's case.[/quote]

Have we seen much of a Kerrigan/Murphy package? With Smith not lighting it up, I wonder how that would look considering Murphy has been doing really well with that extra weight. I know he lost some, but he still looks huge.

MTK 10-03-2016 01:17 PM

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Smith will get it going at some point.

Chico23231 10-03-2016 01:23 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1150635]How about Trent Murphy?? he is 6th in the league in sacks and on pace for 16! Thats crazy[/quote]

He's forced 2 fumbles too. Pretty gud

SkinsGuru 10-03-2016 01:44 PM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1150594]The DL and OLB are very average. When you cannot stop the run or rush the passer, mediocre is the best you can hope for.

The Redskins needed DL help and got none... no help at safety. It is a myth there is good talent on defense, or good coaching.[/quote]

and the ILB"s are worse than the OLB's, hence why everyone runs up the middle on us . . . fix the damn middle of the defense!!

Schneed10 10-03-2016 01:56 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1150648]Have we seen much of a Kerrigan/Murphy package? With Smith not lighting it up, I wonder how that would look considering Murphy has been doing really well with that extra weight. I know he lost some, but he still looks huge.[/quote]

I think the key is getting all three of them on the field in nickel situations.

Schneed10 10-03-2016 01:59 PM

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One thing I'm going to throw out there as a glimmer of hope for our team, in general. I think our depth is better than most NFL teams. The further you go into the season the more injuries and the more you have to dip into your bench, even bring guys up from the practice squad to play a role.

We have a few impact guys, and we'd like our starters to be better in a couple spots. But the depth on the offensive line, at WR, and in the secondary is very good.

You never know, it's depth like this that can help you pull out a game you weren't supposed to win.

hutch17 10-03-2016 03:17 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1150564]I'll focus on the negatives:

Shitty tackling (lack of)
Lack of a run D up the middle (pathetic)
Josh Norman 1st half
Cousins holding onto the ball again resulting in a sack and not taking advantage of the turnover.
Where was Djax?
Brutton
Getting tired of Barry not adjusting (if we would have lost, I would have fired his ass and promote Fewell or Manusky as DC)[/quote]


I agree with most everything except for the criticism of Djax, his play resulted in almost 80 yard worth of PI and at least the first one would have been a catch and touchdown. It doesn't show on the stats sheet but he was huge and needs to be resigned long term.


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