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Hilarious take on it...

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Bruno Mars was the best halftime show imo.

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I'm no Bruno Mars fan but it's the best one I can remember. Justin Timberlake has a little talent to as much as I hate to admit it.


The last actually good one was probably Prince with that college marching band in 2007.

Last nights was boring, garbage music and could barely hear the vocals.

Last year's was a sh!%show not appropriate for family viewing.

Beyonce advertising for the Black Panthers was disgusting.

The Madonna and Minaj show gave the country herpes.

They just need to get a real rock band and stop with this talentless pop garbage. Not old dudes like Bruce Springsteen or Tom Petty, someone still entertaining.

Heck, hire Metallica.

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How dare anyone complain about a "historic" ref? :cheeky:

The were going on about her at the beginning of the game and said she was emotional about the experience and had tears in her eyes. I said to my wife "How is she going to see then, it's kinda part of the job to be able to see." Wife was not amused. :laughing-


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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1276944]They were replaced by Fornette, Gronk and R Jones



When u run the ball, you win[/QUOTE]



It is sooooo important. Im almost as concerned about our run game going forward as I am about the quarterback position. Not necessarily just our rb corp but the blocking and scheming. I mean we had zero run game this year. Zero. Man that will help us if we can improve it.

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“We will win this game,” Brady was texting, according to teammates.

That was the message. The Bucs were going to win the Super Bowl. Forget what was getting said on television or in Vegas. Forget Kansas City’s 16-2 record entering Sunday’s game or its Super Bowl victory last year. Forget Patrick Mahomes and Tyreek Hill.

We will win this game.

And if Tom Brady, who had won six of them, believed it, then who were they to argue?

“He made us believe,” running back Leonard Fournette said.

And then they went out and dominated the vaunted Chiefs 31-9 to win Super Bowl LV.

Brady wasn’t just offering some empty pep talk, either. He knows better than that. There were further details in the texts and in conversations as the Bucs prepared for the game.

Fournette, the 228-pound runner, said Brady’s message to him kept harping on how Kansas City was ranked 31st in the league in yards allowed after contact. That meant they were soft. Fournette, of course, is anything but.

“He was on point, he was telling us what to expect,” Fournette said. “He was telling us they weren’t very good at tackling.”

Put your shoulder down and break them. That's what Brady saw. Now if he could only get Fournette, and the others, to see it too.

Fournette rumbled for 89 yards on 16 carries against the Chiefs, including a back-breaking 27-yard touchdown scamper that all but put the game away. He was joined by Ronald Jones, who had 61 yards on just 12 carries to give Tampa Bay a balanced, clock-grinding offense.
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Tom Brady is such a fucking leader.

He was right. Chiefs were soft in second level tackling. You saw Treeland and some others put their heads down to try and lay the lumber but end up on the wrong end of it with a guy like Fournette.

Felt like by the second half .. those secondary players werent putting their body on on the line or talking smack.

Unbelievable game plan by Brady, leftwich, Bowles.

Seemed like they targeted the left side of the chiefs LT with speed rushes and stuff bc he is normally a RT and I imagine is used to playing his right side as his non-help side and not his left.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1276912]Stoping the Run and running the ball is still a winning formula



The referee talk is loser talk[/QUOTE]



This could be said of every WFT game thread ever. Lol

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[quote=punch it in;1276955]It is sooooo important. Im almost as concerned about our run game going forward as I am about the quarterback position. Not necessarily just our rb corp but the blocking and scheming. I mean we had zero run game this year. Zero. Man that will help us if we can improve it.[/quote]

Agree.
Look how far we got with a solid D-Line.
Our O-Line has had holes for years. We saw what happened to the best QB in the NFL (Mahomes) when he has a less than great line in front of him and no running game. Drafting a QB at #19 and putting that rookie in front of our O-Line would be a big mistake.
Even Brady in the SB was flustered early getting blitzed, then they ran the ball and ran a few screens.
We have no running game when we play against a good defense like Tampa. It gets shut down because our O-Line is not strong enough.

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;1276987]Agree.

Look how far we got with a solid D-Line.

Our O-Line has had holes for years. We saw what happened to the best QB in the NFL (Mahomes) when he has a less than great line in front of him and no running game. Drafting a QB at #19 and putting that rookie in front of our O-Line would be a big mistake.

Even Brady in the SB was flustered early getting blitzed, then they ran the ball and ran a few screens.

We have no running game when we play against a good defense like Tampa. It gets shut down because our O-Line is not strong enough.[/QUOTE]


I find myself happier and happier we did not sign Stafford. Address the rest of the offense and our inside backers. Ride with what we got at quarterback for one more year. If they can go 7-9 with what they had to work with than 10 wins isn’t far fetched if we have more than one wr, a better oline, and any semblance of a run game. Plug a hole at ilb and we could be the next rex grossman/ trent dilfer led superbowl team. Lol.
This is all off the table if one of the better quarterbacks coming out falls to us. Than draft him and sure up o line in the second round. Grab one of the many free agent wr’s and we actually might have a long term thing going on.

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[quote=punch it in;1276989]I find myself happier and happier we did not sign Stafford. Address the rest of the offense and our inside backers. Ride with what we got at quarterback for one more year. If they can go 7-9 with what they had to work with than 10 wins isn’t far fetched if we have more than one wr, a better oline, and any semblance of a run game. Plug a hole at ilb and we could be the next rex grossman/ trent dilfer led superbowl team. Lol.
This is all off the table if one of the better quarterbacks coming out falls to us. Than draft him and sure up o line in the second round. Grab one of the many free agent wr’s and we actually might have a long term thing going on.[/quote]

They won't go with Smith as QB1, that seems almost certain with the aggressive approach to getting a QB. We have to be honest about this past season.

1. HORRIBLE Division, it can't be this bad again can it?
2. Dak got hurt (he was on fire before injury)
3. Wentz was garbage, Hurts could be a solid option there.
4. Giants D is very good, if they get Barkley back 100% and add another WR they could be good.
5. Our D carried the team and that's great but if you have a legit QB1, the Defense has much less pressure on them and if you have a lead in games Chase Young will FEAST.

If we go into the same QB situation this fall, the offense will not be much better and it'll be the SOS as it was this yr.

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Tom Brady

You ready for this one

Brady has played 344 career regular and post season games in his career

First 172 games - (132-40, .767)
Last 172 games - (132-40, .767)

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What Brady has done is simply incredible. Even if Mahomes goes on to win 4 or 5 he won't even touch what Brady has done. Unreal.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1276986]This could be said of every WFT game thread ever. Lol[/QUOTE]This could be said of every game day thread from every club, the refs are horrible and deserve their share of blame but ultimately it usually evens out over a season.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1276949]I'm no Bruno Mars fan but it's the best one I can remember. Justin Timberlake has a little talent to as much as I hate to admit it.


The last actually good one was probably Prince with that college marching band in 2007.

Last nights was boring, garbage music and could barely hear the vocals.

Last year's was a sh!%show not appropriate for family viewing.

Beyonce advertising for the Black Panthers was disgusting.

The Madonna and Minaj show gave the country herpes.

They just need to get a real rock band and stop with this talentless pop garbage. Not old dudes like Bruce Springsteen or Tom Petty, someone still entertaining.

Heck, hire Metallica.[/quote]

No old dudes but hire Metallica? bwahahahahaha!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1276992]Tom Brady

You ready for this one

Brady has played 344 career regular and post season games in his career

First 172 games - (132-40, .767)
Last 172 games - (132-40, .767)[/quote]


Dayum.


Say whatever you want about Tom Brady, but he's the best to ever play QB. He's not the most talented. Or the most athletic. Or the best passer. Or has the strongest arm. But the fucker wins.

The post in this thread about him texting his team .... damn. Leadership -- is all about getting guys to follow you. The Bucs followed the hell out of him. And won going away.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1277019]Dayum.


Say whatever you want about Tom Brady, but he's the best to ever play QB. He's not the most talented. Or the most athletic. Or the best passer. Or has the strongest arm. But the fucker wins.

The post in this thread about him texting his team .... damn. Leadership -- is all about getting guys to follow you. The Bucs followed the hell out of him. And won going away.[/quote]

He's had the best career, i'll grant you that. But as a pure football player (superbowls are team feats, not qb feats and Brady was on some extremely talented teams . . . look a the year he got injured. the patriots went 11 - 5 with matt cassel as their qb) i think there are plenty QB's that were better than him, Manning, Rodgers, Montana, Elway, Marino, etc. were all better QB's IMO . .. but were not as lucky as Brady was that he had a great organization at building teams around him . . . then picked a team ripe with talent that just needed a QB and a few pieces in tampa. Hell Gronk says this Tampa team was by far the most talented team he has played on. just my opinion.

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[quote=MTK;1276994]What Brady has done is simply incredible. Even if Mahomes goes on to win 4 or 5 he won't even touch what Brady has done. Unreal.[/quote]

Well, Mahomes inked a 10 year deal, which in a few years will likely make him underpaid like Brady was in New England. So who knows.

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[QUOTE=SkinsGuru;1277031]He's had the best career, i'll grant you that. But as a pure football player (superbowls are team feats, not qb feats and Brady was on some extremely talented teams . . . look a the year he got injured. the patriots went 11 - 5 with matt cassel as their qb) i think there are plenty QB's that were better than him, Manning, Rodgers, Montana, Elway, Marino, etc. were all better QB's IMO . .. but were not as lucky as Brady was that he had a great organization at building teams around him . . . then picked a team ripe with talent that just needed a QB and a few pieces in tampa. Hell Gronk says this Tampa team was by far the most talented team he has played on. just my opinion.[/QUOTE]



Definitely something to be said about circumstance. I have thought for years that Brady was an excellent quarterback in an excellent situation but the more I watch Him the more I believe he makes it look so easy that his talent is somehow overshadowed. Like Tim Duncan as a basketball player. He is never talked about as the greatest but the guy just was so methodic and accurate and smart. He just won championships and made it look easy. Brady will always, always make the right read. It is uncanny actually. He is also the ultimate field general.

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I'm kind of done with people trying to discredit Brady, or try to explain away his success. His accomplishments are just crazy. His postseason accomplishments are going to be nearly impossible to match.

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[quote=MTK;1277035]I'm kind of done with people trying to discredit Brady, or try to explain away his success. His accomplishments are just crazy. His postseason accomplishments are going to be nearly impossible to match.[/quote]

It's because he's not the "Sexy athlete" like a Mahomes is or Favre was etc. Yeah he's slow as shit and un-athletic but he's a winner and CLUTCH. Things you can not teach. I've said he's the GOAT since Ring 5 and he just keeps on winning. Nobody will ever touch his accomplishments

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277036]It's because he's not the "Sexy athlete" like a Mahomes is or Favre was etc. Yeah he's slow as shit and un-athletic but he's a winner and CLUTCH. Things you can not teach. I've said he's the GOAT since Ring 5 and he just keeps on winning. Nobody will ever touch his accomplishments[/quote]

Mobility doesn't equal athleticism and vice versa.

Just because Brady doesn't scramble doesn't mean he's not athletic. He's in better shape than nearly ANYONE in the NFL. He takes care of his body like no one else, and his arm isn't showing any signs of getting weaker at his age.

You cant do what he's done even in a single season without being a great athlete.

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[QUOTE=Monkeydad;1277039]Mobility doesn't equal athleticism and vice versa.



Just because Brady doesn't scramble doesn't mean he's not athletic. He's in better shape than nearly ANYONE in the NFL. He takes care of his body like no one else, and his arm isn't showing any signs of getting weaker at his age.



You cant do what he's done even in a single season without being a great athlete.[/QUOTE]



You cant even have a cup of coffee in the NFL without being a great athlete. You dont go to Michigan without being a great athlete. Its what im saying about Tim Duncan. He wasn’t Air Jordan, but it isn’t his style. He was clutch, calm, confident, precise, efficient as fuck, and always knew what to do and where to go. His brain was a sexy athlete and his body was a machine. Same as Brady.

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It's funny how we all sit around and talk about how we need Watson or Stafford. No we don't. Brady just won another SB throwing dump offs to.his backs and te's. Think about that. Every single pass Brady made on Sun Heinike can make.

I watched this team win 3 SB's with 3 non HOF qb's. Yeah different era but the same stuff wins decades later. Wr's do not win SB's so why spend big money on one? Once we got a competent QB all of a sudden Cam Sims became a better wr.

If you can't stop the other team from running it and you can't protect your own QB then game over. TB ran it down our throats so that means we aren't good enough in that area.

So IMO go out and get a Devin White in the draft. Go get some more blockers so we can run it better. DO NOT over spend on a wr.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1277032]Well, Mahomes inked a 10 year deal, which in a few years will likely make him underpaid like Brady was in New England. So who knows.[/quote]

ahh . . . but will Mahomes be satisfied with that. Tons of players sit out to get a new contract. Brady took less in restructures to stay and to ensure players could be brought in around him. Will Mahomes?

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[quote=punch it in;1277034]Definitely something to be said about circumstance. I have thought for years that Brady was an excellent quarterback in an excellent situation but the more I watch Him the more I believe he makes it look so easy that his talent is somehow overshadowed. Like Tim Duncan as a basketball player. He is never talked about as the greatest but the guy just was so methodic and accurate and smart. He just won championships and made it look easy. Brady will always, always make the right read. It is uncanny actually. He is also the ultimate field general.[/quote]

If i could have any QB in their prime to start a franchise Brady wouldn't be it . . . simple as that.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277036]It's because he's not the "Sexy athlete" like a Mahomes is or Favre was etc. Yeah he's slow as shit and un-athletic but he's a winner and CLUTCH. Things you can not teach. I've said he's the GOAT since Ring 5 and he just keeps on winning. Nobody will ever touch his accomplishments[/quote]

So clutch that in the last 3 drives against GB (not the last one as that was kneeling) he threw 3 interceptions. Brady didn't win that game the Tampa defense did. Same with the superbowl. Brady did NOTHING special. Missed some open WR's. Threw high quite a few times, but his WR's went up and got it. Was Brady the biggest reason the Bucs won? NO!! The Tampa defense was and the fact that KC was missing their 2 starting tackles.

Superbowl victories are not QB accomplishments, they are team accomplishments.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1277064]It's funny how we all sit around and talk about how we need Watson or Stafford. No we don't. Brady just won another SB throwing dump offs to.his backs and te's. Think about that. Every single pass Brady made on Sun Heinike can make.

I watched this team win 3 SB's with 3 non HOF qb's. Yeah different era but the same stuff wins decades later. Wr's do not win SB's so why spend big money on one? Once we got a competent QB all of a sudden Cam Sims became a better wr.

If you can't stop the other team from running it and you can't protect your own QB then game over. TB ran it down our throats so that means we aren't good enough in that area.

So IMO go out and get a Devin White in the draft. Go get some more blockers so we can run it better. DO NOT over spend on a wr.[/quote]

I'm with you on this!

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The top QBs will give you a chance year in and year out. You might luck into getting to the SB with 2nd or 3rd tier guy once in a while, but if you want sustained success you need the stud QB. Brady hasn't been to 10 Super Bowls dinking and dunking. We should exhaust all possible avenues before we settle for Heinicke.

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If you have a chance to draft what you think is a franchise QB or move up to do it then you have to do it. I would rather take that chance than settle for what we have. While I won't be disappointed if we fortify the LB position, there are lots of really good defensive players out there that can't carry their team to the playoffs. I would rather get the player that gets us to the playoffs almost every year,

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[quote=MTK;1277070]The top QBs will give you a chance year in and year out. You might luck into getting to the SB with 2nd or 3rd tier guy once in a while, but if you want sustained success you need the stud QB. Brady hasn't been to 10 Super Bowls dinking and dunking. We should exhaust all possible avenues before we settle for Heinicke.[/quote]

I agree with this as well. Much easier with a top tier QB for sure.

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[quote=MTK;1277070]The top QBs will give you a chance year in and year out. You might luck into getting to the SB with 2nd or 3rd tier guy once in a while, but if you want sustained success you need the stud QB. Brady hasn't been to 10 Super Bowls dinking and dunking. We should exhaust all possible avenues before we settle for Heinicke.[/quote]

Fans who don't want to go all in on a QB, IMO, are undermining the young talent this team has. You bring an elite QB like Watson to this team, we are a playoff contender right away, and can be a SB contender within two years.

I don't think our team is bad enough (knock on wood) to have a top 5 pick in the next 3 years, which is what you need to have a sure fire top rookie QB. As I've said, I'm fine parting with the 2021, 2022, and 2023 first round picks to get Watson.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1277064]It's funny how we all sit around and talk about how we need Watson or Stafford. No we don't. Brady just won another SB throwing dump offs to.his backs and te's. Think about that. Every single pass Brady made on Sun Heinike can make.

I watched this team win 3 SB's with 3 non HOF qb's. Yeah different era but the same stuff wins decades later. Wr's do not win SB's so why spend big money on one? Once we got a competent QB all of a sudden Cam Sims became a better wr.

If you can't stop the other team from running it and you can't protect your own QB then game over. TB ran it down our throats so that means we aren't good enough in that area.

So IMO go out and get a Devin White in the draft. Go get some more blockers so we can run it better. DO NOT over spend on a wr.[/quote]

Tampa Bay had pretty much the same team for the past 2-3 seasons with mediocre QB play and they went nowhere. Meanwhile they saw the Saints and Falcons go to the playoffs every year. QB play makes a difference, period.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1277075]Tampa Bay had pretty much the same team for the past 2-3 seasons with mediocre QB play and they went nowhere. Meanwhile they saw the Saints and Falcons go to the playoffs every year. QB play makes a difference, period.[/quote]

What did they have to give up to get him? Did they have to give up multiple first rounders? What about Devin White or any of their wr's?

Also the previous QB turned the ball over 30 plus times.

While I agree QB is crucial, doing RG3 type of deals I'm just not in favor of. Would I give up next years number 1 and a 3rd this year if we could get Fields or Wilson? I'd do it.

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Brady was in the top 5 in Deep passing yards

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[quote=skinsfan69;1277087]What did they have to give up to get him? Did they have to give up multiple first rounders? What about Devin White or any of their wr's?

Also the previous QB turned the ball over 30 plus times.

While I agree QB is crucial, doing RG3 type of deals I'm just not in favor of. Would I give up next years number 1 and a 3rd this year if we could get Fields or Wilson? I'd do it.[/quote]

Trading for Watson is not an RG3 type of deal. If you get Watson, you are getting an elite QB in his prime that will very likely play at a high level for the next 5-7 years or even more.

As far as the other needs for the team, aside from maybe left tackle, I don't see any other position that cannot be handled by either free agency or mid-round picks in the next three years.

Adding a Watson type of player, automatically fixes your passing game, your running game (since defenses will respect the pass), and our top 10 defense won't need to carry the team all the time. And oh yeah, if you are worried about not having a first round pick until 2024, Watson will be 28 years old by then and still in his prime.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1277074]Fans who don't want to go all in on a QB, IMO, are undermining the young talent this team has. You bring an elite QB like Watson to this team, we are a playoff contender right away, and can be a SB contender within two years.

I don't think our team is bad enough (knock on wood) to have a top 5 pick in the next 3 years, which is what you need to have a sure fire top rookie QB. As I've said, I'm fine parting with the 2021, 2022, and 2023 first round picks to get Watson.[/quote]

Questions for you ..aside from QB position how does the WFT stack up against the Chiefs? I’m trying to figure out is the WFT really one player away from a super bowl and I just don’t believe it. Do I believe We have the QB on the team now to take us there .. NO I do not however trading away three number ones and top players on this team will not make us better .. some guys say They would not trade Young for Watkins straight up .. would you trade Chase young for 3 number one picks and two solid starters? Patrick M is widely considered one of the top if not the top QB in the league and look what happened agianst Tampa .. a team we could have beaten ...gonna be interesting to see how this plays out ..

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FWIW we are not close to the Chiefs. We are not one player away but it starts and ends with QB play IMO. Superior QB play will make the team better. We have already discussed Patrick's struggles against TB. From the craziness of moving three linemen to new positions the week leading up to the game. The lack of checking out of plays etc. He is 25 and still learning the position but will always have his team knocking on the playoff door if not at super bowl door year in and year out. A defensive player no matter how good, just as the Bears or Broncos, cannot do that. If Houston said Young for Watson straight up I would probably do it. We would still have a top ten defense but we would now have a top ten offense as well.

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[quote=rocnrik;1277091]Questions for you ..aside from QB position how does the WFT stack up against the Chiefs? I’m trying to figure out is the WFT really one player away from a super bowl and I just don’t believe it. Do I believe We have the QB on the team now to take us there .. NO I do not however trading away three number ones and top players on this team will not make us better .. some guys say They would not trade Young for Watkins straight up .. would you trade Chase young for 3 number one picks and two solid starters? Patrick M is widely considered one of the top if not the top QB in the league and look what happened agianst Tampa .. a team we could have beaten ...gonna be interesting to see how this plays out ..[/quote]

I think in a way you are answering your own question. On the one hand you are saying that we could have beaten Tampa, on the other hand you say that KC couldn't beat Tampa, even with an elite QB. So by that logic, wouldn't adding an elite QB to our team put us over the hump to be a playoff contender and beat a team like Tampa?

My working assumption for a Watson trade is what Bill Barnwell proposed: 19th and 74th overall picks in 2021, 2022 first- and fourth-round picks, 2023 first-round pick. With this offer, our defense should not change much, and we are going to be adding pieces on both offense and defense through free agency.

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Playing devils advocate I did answer my question.. 😀 it’s a damn if you do situation .

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277088]Brady was in the top 5 in Deep passing yards[/quote]

brady has 3 #1 WR's and 3 #1 TE's . . . plus a great running game and REALLY GREAT offensive line.