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SirClintonPortis 12-09-2010 03:26 AM

Re: Would it be practical to just (mostly) draft o-line this upcoming year
 
[quote=IRISHSKIN24;766988]As long as we get a CENTER I WILL BE ECSTATIC!...rabach is probably a knowledgeable player, BUT he just gets shown up every game! we need someone with talent and knowledge at the position[/quote]

Both Montgomery and Lichtensteiger are natural centers playing guard. From that, I think it's clear that [B]guard[/B] is our [B]biggest o-line[/B] problem.

Texanskin 12-09-2010 05:34 AM

Re: Would it be practical to just (mostly) draft o-line this upcoming year
 
[quote=SmootSmack;766603]I don't believe we should just draft OL? For what? To say we drafted offensive linemen? That seems pretty counterproductive to me.[/quote]

we have never done this...so why not?? We have ALWAYS drafted the BPA....look at where THAT has gotten us......new coach...new draftng philosophy. Every good team wins in the trenches late in the season. As fans, we have to stop thinking skill players are the foundation.....do yall remember the HOGS????

SirClintonPortis 12-09-2010 06:13 AM

Re: Would it be practical to just (mostly) draft o-line this upcoming year
 
[quote=Texanskin;766994]we have never done this...so why not?? We have ALWAYS drafted the BPA....look at where THAT has gotten us......new coach...new draftng philosophy. Every good team wins in the trenches late in the season. As fans, we have to stop thinking skill players are the foundation.....do yall remember the HOGS????[/quote]
No, we drafted with a strange emphasis on skill positions and late-round LBs and safeties. We also drafted for "need" because "big #1 WR" was a need then. Remember that James ****ing Thrash was our #3 behind the terribly overpaid ARE.

Also, we didn't spend 4 1st and 2nd rounders on the hogs. Some of them came through UDFA, but I suppose it was an era where scouting the really late rounds was considered "not worth it", so talent was more likely to fall then.

drew54 12-11-2010 12:50 PM

Re: Would it be practical to just (mostly) draft o-line this upcoming year
 
No, drafting all OL would not be practical. I want to turn this subject around. I think should only draft defense. Here is why.

The tackle position is set with Williams and Brown. Lets say Davin Joseph is signed.
Mike Williams returns to try and win back his spot at guard vs Hicks and Heyer. Lichtensteiger and Montgomery battle it out for Center.

At WR, Jacoby Jones is a FA in Houston and he should know the offense system. He would be an upgrade in size, also adding an extra return man for kickoffs. He is not having a great year in Houston, (but a better year than Joey Galloway + Roydell Williams is having) so he could come cheap. Also Kelly is a wild card. If there is no big name WR signed, it is safe to say the coaches have faith in him.

RB has been an issue this year mainly due to injuries. I think it is Torain's job to lose, Portis takes a pay cut and returns, along with the addition a Shanahan diamond in the rough.

TE and QB are set. Maybe a project QB is drafted, but that is currently Jon Beck's role.

So this brings us back to the draft. BPA at any position of DE, CB, LB, DT, & FS. Trading down should be utilized if grades are similar.

Then again, it will most likely be a mix of free agents and draft to fix the both sides of the ball. Some notable 3-4 FAs on D are:
DT: Haloti Ngata in Baltimore, Cullen Jenkins and Johnny Jolly in Green Bay.
LB: Tamba Hali - KC, Lamarr Woodley - Pittsburgh, Desmond Bishop - GB, David Harris- NYJ.

freddyg12 12-11-2010 12:59 PM

Re: Would it be practical to just (mostly) draft o-line this upcoming year
 
[quote=drew54;767367]No, drafting all OL would not be practical. I want to turn this subject around. I think should only draft defense. Here is why.

The tackle position is set with Williams and Brown. Lets say Davin Joseph is signed.
Mike Williams returns to try and win back his spot at guard vs Hicks and Heyer. Lichtensteiger and Montgomery battle it out for Center.

At WR, Jacoby Jones is a FA in Houston and he should know the offense system. He would be an upgrade in size, also adding an extra return man for kickoffs. He is not having a great year in Houston, (but a better year than Joey Galloway + Roydell Williams is having) so he could come cheap. Also Kelly is a wild card. If there is no big name WR signed, it is safe to say the coaches have faith in him.

RB has been an issue this year mainly due to injuries. I think Portis takes a pay cut and returns, along with the addition a Shanahan diamond in the rough.

TE and QB are set. Maybe a project QB is drafted, but that is currently Jon Beck's role.

So this brings us back to the draft. BPA at any position of DE, CB, LB, DT, & FS. Trading down should be utilized if grades are similar.

Then again, it will most likely be a mix of free agents and draft to fix the both sides of the ball. Some notable 3-4 FAs on D are:
DT: Haloti Ngata in Baltimore, Cullen Jenkins and Johnny Jolly in Green Bay.
LB: Tamba Hali - KC, Lamarr Woodley - Pittsburgh, Desmond Bishop - GB, David Harris- NYJ.[/quote]

Good points. I would add that by season's end RB may not be determined by the staff as a high priority. I'm sure they would like to add a feature back, but this could turn out to be a decent 4 rb rotation; Torain & Davis as primary runners, CP & KW as 3rd down.

GridIron26 12-11-2010 01:13 PM

Re: Would it be practical to just (mostly) draft o-line this upcoming year
 
[quote=drew54;767367]Then again, it will most likely be a mix of free agents and draft to fix the both sides of the ball. Some notable 3-4 FAs on D are:
DT: Haloti Ngata in Baltimore, Cullen Jenkins and Johnny Jolly in Green Bay.
LB: Tamba Hali - KC, Lamarr Woodley - Pittsburgh, Desmond Bishop - GB, David Harris- NYJ.[/quote]

There is no way Ngata, Hali, and Harris' teams will let them walk away.. Those three players are big puzzle pieces in their defenses.. Although, if Harris or Ngata are in FA then I say go after them - those two players will be worth the money..

SFREDSKIN 12-11-2010 04:15 PM

Re: Would it be practical to just (mostly) draft o-line this upcoming year
 
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