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I know he's not a 1st round prospect, but Case Keenum is one heckuva player.

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[quote=GMScud;872244]I know he's not a 1st round prospect, but Case Keenum is one heckuva player.[/quote]

System man, system. Kellen Moore would be putting up just a great numbers in that system as would Luck. Kellen is a much better prospect than Case. Great college player, not what I'm looking for in the NFL.

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how the f*ck do you throw for a safety? Cousins found a way apparently

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[quote=IrMitchell;872096]The only way the Redskins should trade down is gathering two late first round picks, otherwise we need elite talent. Although we won't be able to get a franchise quarterback in the draft (nobody but Cleveland and Indy will), we can still continue to build depth similar to what we've gotten at RB, WR, OLB, S.

Blackmon
Kirkpatrick

One will be available, one should be our guy.[/quote]

That's what I was suggesting could happen. Our 6th for the Bengal's 19th and 24th.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;872246]System man, system. Kellen Moore would be putting up just a great numbers in that system as would Luck. Kellen is a much better prospect than Case. Great college player, not what I'm looking for in the NFL.[/quote]

I know it's system. I'm just pointing out that his accomplishments at the college level are outsanding. He's fun to watch. I don't want him here, though.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/03/vontaze-burfict-fletcher-cox-among-nfl-draft-entries/]Vontaze Burfict, Fletcher Cox among NFL draft entries | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Burfict is leaving

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sorry but IDT LB is that big of a hole for us, this team needs tofocus HEAVILY ON OFFENSE

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Didn't know where to put this.

[url=http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2012/1/6/2686334/2012-compensatory-draft-pick-predictions]2012 Compensatory Draft Pick Predictions - Mocking The Draft[/url]

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So we get nothing???

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[quote=musicmaster45;874732]So we get nothing???[/quote]

Sure looks like it.

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[url=http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story?id=7442150&_slug_=mel-kiper-regrading-2011-nfl-draft&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fdraft2012%2fstory%3fid%3d7442150%26_slug_%3dmel-kiper-regrading-2011-nfl-draft#NFC]Mel Kiper's regrading of the 2011 NFL draft - ESPN[/url] E

Can someone whos an insider copy and paste this article for me.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;874920][URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story?id=7442150&_slug_=mel-kiper-regrading-2011-nfl-draft&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fdraft2012%2fstory%3fid%3d7442150%26_slug_%3dmel-kiper-regrading-2011-nfl-draft#NFC"]Mel Kiper's regrading of the 2011 NFL draft - ESPN[/URL] E

Can someone whos an insider copy and paste this article for me.[/quote]


Some how I got into it earlier, he had us a c- then raised it to a B.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;874920][url=http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story?id=7442150&_slug_=mel-kiper-regrading-2011-nfl-draft&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fdraft2012%2fstory%3fid%3d7442150%26_slug_%3dmel-kiper-regrading-2011-nfl-draft#NFC]Mel Kiper's regrading of the 2011 NFL draft - ESPN[/url] E

Can someone whos an insider copy and paste this article for me.[/quote]

Here you go, you owe me 50 cents. LOL.

Washington Redskins
Post-draft grade: C+
Summary: This felt like a novelty -- a Redskins draft with a ton of picks. The story of this draft was the fact that Washington didn't see a quarterback it wanted. Given the returns in the range in which the Redskins would have picked, it looks like a good calculation, at least in the short term. Only moving way down the board and ending up with Dalton could have looked better. Instead, the Redskins traded down, got Ryan Kerrigan at No. 16 and really aced the pick. Kerrigan picked up 7.5 sacks and played exactly as his draft projection had him pegged. Round 2 pick Jarvis Jenkins never saw the field because of injury, but both running back picks, Roy Helu and Evan Royster, played well when given the time, and I still think Leonard Hankerson has a chance to develop. Maurice Hurt looks like a seventh-round keeper. Having a lot of picks can help; it certainly helped this grade rise over the course of the season.

New grade: B

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[quote=Ruhskins;874923]Here you go, you owe me 50 cents. LOL.

Washington Redskins
Post-draft grade: C+
Summary: This felt like a novelty -- a Redskins draft with a ton of picks. The story of this draft was the fact that Washington didn't see a quarterback it wanted. Given the returns in the range in which the Redskins would have picked, it looks like a good calculation, at least in the short term. Only moving way down the board and ending up with Dalton could have looked better. Instead, the Redskins traded down, got Ryan Kerrigan at No. 16 and really aced the pick. Kerrigan picked up 7.5 sacks and played exactly as his draft projection had him pegged. Round 2 pick Jarvis Jenkins never saw the field because of injury, but both running back picks, Roy Helu and Evan Royster, played well when given the time, and I still think Leonard Hankerson has a chance to develop. Maurice Hurt looks like a seventh-round keeper. Having a lot of picks can help; it certainly helped this grade rise over the course of the season.

New grade: B[/quote]

Of course it's a big if, but Jenkins may end of being the best of this draft too. If he's anywhere close, it'll change to an A+.

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That's why I'm not big on the idea of trading up for anyone. We still have a lot of holes to fill, and we could really use another nice big draft class to keep building up the roster.

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[quote=Ruhskins;874923]Here you go, you owe me 50 cents. LOL.

Washington Redskins
Post-draft grade: C+
Summary: This felt like a novelty -- a Redskins draft with a ton of picks. The story of this draft was the fact that Washington didn't see a quarterback it wanted. Given the returns in the range in which the Redskins would have picked, it looks like a good calculation, at least in the short term. Only moving way down the board and ending up with Dalton could have looked better. Instead, the Redskins traded down, got Ryan Kerrigan at No. 16 and really aced the pick. Kerrigan picked up 7.5 sacks and played exactly as his draft projection had him pegged. Round 2 pick Jarvis Jenkins never saw the field because of injury, but both running back picks, Roy Helu and Evan Royster, played well when given the time, and I still think Leonard Hankerson has a chance to develop. Maurice Hurt looks like a seventh-round keeper. Having a lot of picks can help; it certainly helped this grade rise over the course of the season.

New grade: B[/quote]

I was impressed with all of the Redskins draft selections. They all did well this year. We won't know more about Aldrick Robinson until next season, but everyone else exceeded expectations. Kerrigan, Neild, Helu, Royster, Hurt, Hankerson, and Gomes was sensational. And they are just beginning. All of them will be even better next year. And with Jarvis Jenkins returning, it will be interesting to see if he can replace Carriker on the defensive line.

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[quote=Mattyk;874942]That's why I'm not big on the idea of trading up for anyone. We still have a lot of holes to fill, and we could really use another nice big draft class to keep building up the roster.[/quote]

BINGO! I'm with you. 100%. I'd rather they traded back for more picks and picked up a late round QB, hopefully they'd have picked up another 2nd rounder which we can draft a WR and possibly trade back again for more picks.

I really liked what the Skins did last year because it was totally different then what they have done in the past. Usually it was toss in several picks to move up and be limited as to what picks we made. Atleast last year not only did the team get younger but it got better quality wise and back up wise.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;876957]I was impressed with all of the Redskins draft selections. They all did well this year. We won't know more about Aldrick Robinson until next season, but everyone else exceeded expectations. Kerrigan, Neild, Helu, Royster, Hurt, Hankerson, and Gomes was sensational. And they are just beginning. All of them will be even better next year. And with Jarvis Jenkins returning, it will be interesting to see if he can replace Carriker on the defensive line.[/quote]

I think the only questions we should be having are with

Jenkins
Paul
Robinson

Jenkins was hurt so he really could only be evaluated through preseason but looked good. Paul for me he really didn't show much other then blocking skils, and Robinson hardly saw the field. I'd like to see these three step up big and be productive along with this years draft class and FA's.

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Some late round QB's we could look at bringing in for a looksie,

[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2012/1/16/2711197/east-west-shrine-game-preview-quarterbacks]East-West Shrine Game Preview: Quarterbacks - Hogs Haven[/url]

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Here's the good news, the Redskins coach the South team for the Senior Bowl which has Weeden, Foles, and Lindly as it's QB's.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/seniorbowl/story/09000d5d825f0ea1/article/oklahoma-states-weeden-among-three-qbs-on-south-squad]NFL.com news: Oklahoma State's Weeden among three QBs on South squad[/url]

I'll say it... I'm thinking the team takes either Weeden or Foles in the draft because they will have worked with them and know how good they are.... unless of course RGIII should happen to fall to #6.

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[quote=SBXVII;877100]Some late round QB's we could look at bringing in for a looksie,

[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2012/1/16/2711197/east-west-shrine-game-preview-quarterbacks]East-West Shrine Game Preview: Quarterbacks - Hogs Haven[/url][/quote]

On that list is Austin Davis. I've seen a whole lot of him over four years and think he is worth a late round pick. While his arm strength is not the best, he is very accurate, smart, tough, leader-ready, and experienced (although not very experienced under center).

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I know the Skins have expressed some interest in BJ Coleman and Harnish

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[quote=SmootSmack;877118]I know the Skins have expressed some interest in BJ Coleman and Harnish[/quote]

[url=http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/236000/bj-coleman]B.J. Coleman Stats - Chattanooga Mocs - ESPN[/url]
This page says that he has just as many pass attempts in his career as punts (8).

[YT]MRMh_yC3_x0[/YT]

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[quote=Dirtbag59;877128][url=http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/stats/_/id/236000/bj-coleman]B.J. Coleman Stats - Chattanooga Mocs - ESPN[/url]
This page says that he has just as many pass attempts in his career as punts (8).
[/quote]I have BJ Coleman's career numbers here. But I don't dare want to undertake the task of trying to get these to format:

QB Name QB Starts QB Wins Completion % Attempts TD TD% INT INT% Sack Sack %


B.J. Coleman 29 14 57.38% 1016 52 5.12% 32 3.15% 38 3.61%

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Those would be crappy numbers in the Pac 12. He played at Chattanooga.

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Shoot my bad. It's GJ Kinne, not BJ Coleman

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Made a thread about the Redskins, WRs and the draft....

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Both good reads.


[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Draft-combine-preview-Vontaze-Burfict-Andrew-Luck-Robert-Griffin-III-021912]NFL Combine preview: Scrutiny to come down on Vontaze Burfict - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN[/url]

[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Robert-Griffin-III-ready-to-talk-at-NFL-combine-022012]Robert Griffin III ready to talk at NFL combine - College Football News | FOX Sports on MSN[/url]

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Imma root hard for a black QBs just as much as I do for white DBs...

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[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/nfl/02/21/redskins.team.needs/index.html?sct=nfl_bf3_a9]Washington Redskins 2012 team needs - NFL - SI.com[/url]

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[quote=diehard;887631]Imma root hard for a black QBs just as much as I do for white DBs...[/quote]

?? Que?

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;888286]?? Que?[/quote]

Harrison Smith.

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[url=http://rob-rang.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/13682485/35073129]Pead, TE Robinson impress at Cincinnati Pro Day - CBSSports.com[/url]

Redskins in attendence at Isiah Peads pro day. Hes a real fast RB from Cincy.

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it's time to learn about some draft picks

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I say RGBIII any day. He has what it takes. He just need to be on the right team so he can show off what he has.

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considering not many guys available in free agency other than Garcon have speed, i think we really need to draft a burner. we need a threat that with 10 yards of separation can take it to the house, we need someone that is dangerous, havent had that in awhile since maybe moss was younger, and we didnt have anyone to get him the ball. hopefully we can have both soon

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Who is RGB? Is he related to KGB?

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;892589]Who is RGB? Is he related to KGB?[/quote]

RGBIII= Rex Grossman & Beck for year number 3.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;892589]Who is RGB? Is he related to KGB?[/quote]

"I spash zee pot."

[IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/2vw9t0p.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;892589]Who is RGB? Is he related to KGB?[/quote]

^^Who can guess the movie?!?!?