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[quote=MTK;1274661]I don't think the Eagles brass dumped Pederson only to turn around and now trade Wentz. I don't see them giving up on him.[/quote]

I don't think they can financially afford to move on from Wentz. No one is going to take over that contract.

[url]https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/carson-wentz-18950/[/url]

$35 mil cap hit this coming year, and $30 mil+ cap hits for the next 4 seasons.

If they cut him before the 2021 season, he'll count for $59 mil in dead cap space!

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It would depends on how much he wants it, how much of his guarantees he is willing to sign away to allow a move, and there is still the lingering locker room issue

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Wentz will be back in Philly. He had a bad year. It happens. That doesn't mean you move on from him. Doesn't mean he will continue to play bad. Hit the reset and try and get him to play better. The new coach should come in and squash the QB talk and name Wentz the starter. But also make it clear that guys at all positions are competing.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1274616]If we do go after him, I say we should include Landon Collins in the deal. Excessive cap number and Curl took his job.

We can't bench Curl now. Get Landon off the books.[/quote]

No one is stupid enough to trade for Collins. If they are then they should not be in the NFL. He is coming off a serious injury, he is slow and can't cover, the injury will make him slower, he wasn't even good in the box which is supposedly his strength. Collins to me is not even worthy of being on a roster. A 7th round rookie played better than he did.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1274643]New #Lions GM Brad Holmes on Matthew Stafford: "It is my job to evaluate the entire roster, and through that process, I have not had any conversations with any player, so I just want to be fair to that process. But obviously, Matt is a very good football player."

Anytime a GM says these words it makes you think he's open to dealing[/quote]

lets say they are open to moving him.
What's the cost? Multiple #1's gets you talking. Just not worth it to me.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1274670]No one is stupid enough to trade for Collins. If they are then they should not be in the NFL. He is coming off a serious injury, he is slow and can't cover, the injury will make him slower, he wasn't even good in the box which is supposedly his strength. Collins to me is not even worthy of being on a roster. A 7th round rookie played better than he did.[/quote]

just have him bulk up and convert to LB.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1274671]lets say they are open to moving him.
What's the cost? Multiple #1's gets you talking. Just not worth it to me.[/quote]

Naw just #19 , if they want more say NO

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Really doubt the price for Stafford would get to the level of multiple firsts. Probably more along the lines of what it cost us to get Alex Smith.

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[quote=MTK;1274676]Really doubt the price for Stafford would get to the level of multiple firsts. Probably more along the lines of what it cost us to get Alex Smith.[/quote]

Most likely between the two, IMO. Almost certain to cost more than Smith did - the demand is much higher. Look how many teams are in the market. I agree that multiple firsts is probably more than anyone is willing to pay. I've seen a first and a third as being the estimated price multiple times, and that sounds logical to me, given the circumstances.

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We have 2 3rd rounders this year. If our 1st and lower 3rd rounder can close the deal, I'm all for it. That is the absolute maximum tho. Think of Stafford firing that fucking pigskin to McLaurin!! Get 'er done.

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[quote=Number44;1274677]Most likely between the two, IMO. Almost certain to cost more than Smith did - the demand is much higher. Look how many teams are in the market. I agree that multiple firsts is probably more than anyone is willing to pay. I've seen a first and a third as being the estimated price multiple times, and that sounds logical to me, given the circumstances.[/quote]

Given that we have an extra 3rd, I'd be okay with giving up a 1st and a 3rd.

I think something that works to our advantage is that we are an attractive team for a potential QB. Top 5 defense, good offensive weapons (Terry, Gibson, Logan), and should be competitive for the top spot in the NFC East. Also, having RR as our coach is a big plus as well.

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Washington is rumored to be in play for Deshaun Watson should he be available for trade, per Jeremy Fowler. An NFC Executive thinks Washington will be involved “in a big way”

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1274680]Washington is rumored to be in play for Deshaun Watson should he be available for trade, per Jeremy Fowler. An NFC Executive thinks Washington will be involved “in a big way”[/quote]

Wanna bet it's all because of Snyder?

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The actual quote is WFT will be involved in the offseason QB sweepstakes "in a big way". So not just Watson.

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“I think they will be involved in the QB sweepstakes in a big way,” an NFC exec said. “They know they are close.”


I just read that report too, here:

[url]https://washingtonfootballwire.usatoday.com/2021/01/20/report-washington-could-be-involved-in-deshaun-watson-sweepstakes-in-a-big-way/[/url]

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[quote=Meks;1274672]just have him bulk up and convert to LB.[/quote]

I like that plan. We should have moved LaRon Landry to LB, he couldn't cover at all, but man, he could hit.

Collins has a similar skillset, or lack of, at this point.

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[quote=MTK;1274687]The actual quote is WFT will be involved in the offseason QB sweepstakes "in a big way". So not just Watson.[/quote]

Grabbed it of twitter but I'm glad they are going all in

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsM_VlzU0AEIX2z?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG]

OK Make this happen!

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With Stafford we're potentially a 10 win team, with Watson 12 easy

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[quote=MTK;1274699]With Stafford we're potentially a 10 win team, with Watson 12 easy[/quote]

Give Watson another WR like Robinson and we are scary

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[quote=GridIron26;1274686]Wanna bet it's all because of Snyder?[/quote]

Wanna bet it’s because we need a serious upgrade at QB?

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[quote=MissouriSkin;1274708]Wanna bet it’s because we need a serious upgrade at QB?[/quote]

Should have added a sarcastic mode to it, I guess it was a bad joke.

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I’d offer 3 1s for him now

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Maybe we are a preference as opposed to him going to an AFC team?

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[quote=MissouriSkin;1274714]Maybe we are a preference as opposed to him going to an AFC team?[/quote]

Maybe a preference for the Texans in that respect. However, with his no trade clause, D Watson has the ultimate say with regard to destination if it comes to a trade.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1274715]Maybe a preference for the Texans in that respect. However, with his no trade clause, D Watson has the ultimate say with regard to destination if it comes to a trade.[/quote]

I think we could win that if he wants out that bad and the Texans say DC or stay in Houston.

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I think that Watson is the guy we should try to get, unless the new GM, Rivera and Kyle Smith can find a franchise QB below top three or four QB taken in the draft.

IF the war room ( without Snyder inputting anything hopefully ) can find a Diamond-in-the-rough QB, that would be the ultimate solution. That drafted QB could learn from Taylor Heinicke until the rookie can challenge Taylor for the QB ( if he gets that good).
It’s a win-win.

Watson will cost a lot of prime draft picks to get that trade. But he will generate an INSTANT offense - upgrading the most important position of the game, QB, and with some key FA swings at WR, TE AND OL. Takes One of the worst in Off this year and gets us easily into the top ten immediately.


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1274712]I’d offer 3 1s for him now[/quote]

You're in the range but I think they could get even more than that. How old is Watson - 25 or 26, maybe? And he's already an established NFL star. Probably a Top 5 QB for many years to come.

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I'd suggest that the number of picks may not be a decider, more the quality. We're we to offer our next 3 1's, versus (for arguments sake) the Jets making the same offer, there is a far better chance those Jets picks would be in the top 10 than ours. Were the Jets to offer 2x1's they may well take those over 3x1's from us.

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I can't get excited about a possible trade for Stafford. He's a very good QB but he's been injured a lot in recent seasons. I mean A LOT. I think he's a health risk.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1274774]I can't get excited about a possible trade for Stafford. He's a very good QB but he's been injured a lot in recent seasons. I mean A LOT. I think he's a health risk.[/quote]

He plays through most injuries though and still manages to be very productive.

That wouldn't scare me off him.

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Yahoo articles are always trash but I clicked on one because it had the headline "5 players WFT may need to trade to get Watson".

Their list:


Montez Sweat
Landon Collins
Matt Ioannidis
Brandon Scherff
Chase Young


[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/5-players-washington-might-involve-044231441.html[/url]


Yes to Collins and OK to Iaonnidis, but a big HELL NO to Young, Sweat and Scherff.

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I'd trade anyone not named Young on that list.

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Throw in Apke and Bostic to sweeten the pot 😄

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Watson is 25. Go “ all in “ for him. Even three 1st round picks. You can even throw in Landon Collins. With someone like Robinson coming in at WR to balance MacLaurin, and Cam Sims competing with Harmon for slot WR. Suddenly we have an awesome WR group. Being in one more FA Wr as a backup or #5 WR.

We also need to draft for the OL. Use our #2 to get the best OG or OT (left side). Martin and Christian are done. In fact, I see us drifting for the OL with AT LEAST two picks or more.


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[quote=Warthog;1274916]Watson is 25. Go “ all in “ for him. Even three 1st round picks. You can even throw in Landon Collins. With someone like Robinson coming in at WR to balance MacLaurin, and Cam Sims competing with Harmon for slot WR. Suddenly we have an awesome WR group. Being in one more FA Wr as a backup or #5 WR.

We also need to draft for the OL. Use our #2 to get the best OG or OT (left side). Martin and Christian are done. In fact, I see us drifting for the OL with AT LEAST two picks or more.


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I think in the end he'll go to Miami, they have the higher picks and Tua. I'm hopeful for Stafford

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Charlie Casserly “Matt Stafford isn’t going anywhere”

Idk if he has inside connections or not but this sucks if true

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Fun to dream about but it's hard to see Watson going anywhere and I'm still really not sure why Detroit would bail on Stafford given he still has plenty of good ball ahead of him. Anything can happen I guess but if I had to bet on it, I'd bet they're both back with their respective teams.

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[quote=MTK;1274922]Fun to dream about but it's hard to see Watson going anywhere and I'm still really not sure why Detroit would bail on Stafford given he still has plenty of good ball ahead of him. Anything can happen I guess but if I had to bet on it, I'd bet they're both back with their respective teams.[/quote]

Yep.. This isn't a good year for WFT to look for QB due to limited QB options in free agency and too many teams need a new QB. I still believe there's a good chance we will roll with Allen/Heinicke/rookie QB.