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MTK 02-04-2022 09:51 AM

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[quote=mooby;1309973]I just don't get why Dan had to try to sleep with a former cheerleader. Like dude, you are rich as fuck. Go find some blue chip escorts and get down. It had to be a team employee though? Fuckin christ the ego on this guy.[/quote]

It's power and ego and the attitude he can take anything he wants.

BaltimoreSkins 02-04-2022 09:59 AM

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Anybody still think just because he is rich he is smart?

rocnrik 02-04-2022 10:03 AM

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As good as he is .. we can’t entertain bring Watson here ..

Ruhskins 02-04-2022 10:08 AM

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Again, I'm seeing stupid comments on Twitter about holding Jason and Ron responsible for the report cover up.

It boggles me how stupid people are when it comes to the NFL. You want to get ANYTHING done, you need to pressure the owners, period. Not Ron, not Jason, hell not even Goodell. The owners dictate everything, Goodell got his orders from the owners to bury this.

MTK 02-04-2022 10:15 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1309987]Again, I'm seeing stupid comments on Twitter about holding Jason and Ron responsible for the report cover up.

It boggles me how stupid people are when it comes to the NFL. You want to get ANYTHING done, you need to pressure the owners, period. Not Ron, not Jason, hell not even Goodell. The owners dictate everything, Goodell got his orders from the owners to bury this.[/quote]

Twitter has been even more insufferable than usual since Wed.

MTK 02-04-2022 10:29 AM

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[quote=rocnrik;1309985]As good as he is .. we can’t entertain bring Watson here ..[/quote]

Totally agree. Unless he's miraculously cleared of any wrong doing, but that seems pretty doubtful.

mredskins 02-04-2022 10:52 AM

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[quote=MTK;1309991]Totally agree. Unless he's miraculously cleared of any wrong doing, but that seems pretty doubtful.[/quote]

i am fine with him coming.

he starts winning here and keeps his nose clean all will be forgotten.

also it is so odd to me no actual criminal charges have been brought forward. I think some of this is he has a fetish and another part of it is gold diggers; combine the two and its major news. Lots of smoke very little fire.

BaltimoreSkins 02-04-2022 11:29 AM

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[quote=mredskins;1309992]i am fine with him coming.

he starts winning here and keeps his nose clean all will be forgotten.

[B]also it is so odd to me no actual criminal charges have been brought forward[/B]. I think some of this is he has a fetish and another part of it is gold diggers; combine the two and its major news. Lots of smoke very little fire.[/quote]

In a situation like this I don't think it is that odd

JackLord 02-04-2022 11:32 AM

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1309984]Anybody still think just because he is rich he is smart?[/quote]

+ 1

I am always hesitant to criticize highly successful people as it reeks of jealousy.

And a very long time ago, part of me admired the fact that Dan Snyder had built a business up from nothing, made tons of money, and was able to purchase an NFL franchise despite it requiring 2 attempts and the league somewhat favoring JKC Jr.

I now see his initial ascent into wealth as dumb luck, nothing more.

rocnrik 02-04-2022 12:01 PM

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He is smarter than the owners wanting to pay there coaches to lose games … There are a lot of seedy rich guys that own sports teams …

Chico23231 02-04-2022 12:07 PM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1309971]Listening to [URL="https://thekevinsheehanshow.com/2022/02/03/the-day-after/"]Sheehan's pod[/URL], there apparently finally are direct accusations against Snyder !!! [B]Former employee says he had his hand on her thigh during a business diner, and then tried to force her to join him in his limousine, pressing with his hand on her back[/B], only being stopped by his attorney saying "Dan this is a very bad idea" ... Guys... could it be it?![/quote]

Seems like he was trying to Command-her

Allegations and the name choice starting to make more sense

SunnySide 02-04-2022 12:17 PM

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[quote=JackLord;1309998]+ 1

I am always hesitant to criticize highly successful people as it reeks of jealousy.

And a very long time ago, part of me admired the fact that Dan Snyder had built a business up from nothing, made tons of money, and was able to purchase an NFL franchise despite it requiring 2 attempts and the league somewhat favoring JKC Jr.

I now see his initial ascent into wealth as dumb luck, nothing more.[/quote]

Snyder was born on November 23, 1964,[2] in Maryland,[3][4] the son of Arlette (née Amsellem) and Gerald Seymour "Gerry" Snyder.[5][6] His family is Jewish.[3][7][8] His father was a freelance writer who wrote for United Press International and National Geographic.[4] He attended Hillandale Elementary School in Silver Spring, Maryland. At age 12, he moved to Henley-on-Thames, a small town near London, where he attended private school.[4] At age 14, he returned to the United States and lived with his grandmother in Queens, New York. A year later, his family moved back to Maryland and he graduated from Charles W. Woodward High School in Rockville, Maryland.[4] His first job was at B. Dalton bookstore in the White Flint Mall.[4]

At 17, Snyder experienced his first business failure when he partnered with his father to sell bus-trip packages to Washington Capitals fans to see their hockey team play in Philadelphia.[9] By age 20, he had dropped out of the University of Maryland, College Park[10] and was running his own business, leasing jets to fly college students to spring break in Fort Lauderdale and the Caribbean.[4] Snyder claims to have cleared US$1 million running the business out of his parents' bedroom with his friend Joe Craig, and several telephone lines.[11]

Snyder courted real estate entrepreneur Mortimer Zuckerman, whose US News & World Report was also interested in the college market and who agreed to finance his push to publish Campus USA, a magazine for college students.[4] Zuckerman and Fred Drasner, co-publisher of Zuckerman's New York Daily News, invested $3 million in Campus USA.[4] The venture did not generate enough paid advertising and was forced to close after two years.[
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Snyder[/url]

I always thought he came from money and family loan set him up ... but reading wiki (I know wiki ..) it does seem like he earned it. Yes he was rich, went to private school in england but seems his parents werent rich rich like parents of Elon Musk or Kidd Rock.

I respect rich people who hustle. Its a trait at a young age.

Mark Cuban, when he was 17 or so, would drive up to like cleveland and buy their newspapers then drive back down to Pittsburgh to sell papers when the pittsburgh paper went on strike.

Remember when news papers were a big deal? we got all our info form newspapers and nighlty news?

Ruhskins 02-04-2022 12:26 PM

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It's is weird that the owners are willing to die on this hill. Again, there has to be a group of powerful owners that are behind this. Or every owner has decide to make a stand to avoid setting a precedent.

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33215649/washington-commanders-owner-daniel-snyder-ok-release-findings-nfl-investigation-team[/url]

skinsfan69 02-04-2022 12:27 PM

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Dan was one of those guys who probably didn't lose his virginity until he started making money. It somewhat explains the frat boy behavior in the workplace and awkwardness around women.

I have heard horrible stories about him ( and his sister Michelle) from his days at Snyder Communications. I didn't believe it at first but now that all of this stuff is coming out I believe it.

Redskins 2021 02-04-2022 01:23 PM

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He got lucky with the Dolphins coach sueing the league this did not get much press

JackLord 02-04-2022 01:28 PM

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[quote=SunnySide;1310005]Snyder was born on November 23, 1964,[2] in Maryland,[3][4] the son of Arlette (née Amsellem) and Gerald Seymour "Gerry" Snyder.[5][6] His family is Jewish.[3][7][8] His father was a freelance writer who wrote for United Press International and National Geographic.[4] He attended Hillandale Elementary School in Silver Spring, Maryland. At age 12, he moved to Henley-on-Thames, a small town near London, where he attended private school.[4] At age 14, he returned to the United States and lived with his grandmother in Queens, New York. A year later, his family moved back to Maryland and he graduated from Charles W. Woodward High School in Rockville, Maryland.[4] His first job was at B. Dalton bookstore in the White Flint Mall.[4]

At 17, Snyder experienced his first business failure when he partnered with his father to sell bus-trip packages to Washington Capitals fans to see their hockey team play in Philadelphia.[9] By age 20, he had dropped out of the University of Maryland, College Park[10] and was running his own business, leasing jets to fly college students to spring break in Fort Lauderdale and the Caribbean.[4] Snyder claims to have cleared US$1 million running the business out of his parents' bedroom with his friend Joe Craig, and several telephone lines.[11]

Snyder courted real estate entrepreneur Mortimer Zuckerman, whose US News & World Report was also interested in the college market and who agreed to finance his push to publish Campus USA, a magazine for college students.[4] Zuckerman and Fred Drasner, co-publisher of Zuckerman's New York Daily News, invested $3 million in Campus USA.[4] The venture did not generate enough paid advertising and was forced to close after two years.[
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Snyder[/url]

I always thought he came from money and family loan set him up ... but reading wiki (I know wiki ..) it does seem like he earned it. Yes he was rich, went to private school in england but seems his parents werent rich rich like parents of Elon Musk or Kidd Rock.

I respect rich people who hustle. Its a trait at a young age.

Mark Cuban, when he was 17 or so, would drive up to like cleveland and buy their newspapers then drive back down to Pittsburgh to sell papers when the pittsburgh paper went on strike.

Remember when news papers were a big deal? we got all our info form newspapers and nighlty news?[/quote]


Sounds like ole dad was the brains behind the operations. Sorry, but you are not going to convince me that Danny has any particular smarts or abilities.

I think we learned all we needed to know during Danny's first couple of years. He fired lots of long time staff at Redskins Park for no good reason. And the way he treated Norv Turner was beyond despicable.

And he was just getting started on a reign of sleaze and incompetence that continues right up to this day.

Ruhskins 02-04-2022 03:20 PM

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So the good news is that it seems that the NFL and Snyder are at odds with each other. The NFL is saying that Snyder has to okay the release of any information, and Snyder's lawyer is saying that they are not blocking any release. So this is going to become very interesting.

SunnySide 02-09-2022 05:35 PM

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The NFL says the Washington Commanders' hiring of an investigative firm won't stop the league from conducting its own inquiry into Tiffani Johnston's allegations of sexual harassment against team owner Dan Snyder.

The Commanders announced Wednesday morning that Pallas Global Group LLC, led by former Assistant United States Attorneys Bonnie Jonas and Tiffany Moller, will manage an "independent investigation" into allegations made last week by Johnston before a congressional committee.

But the league clarified later Wednesday that the Commanders' investigation would be separate from any investigation or action taken by the NFL.

A league spokesman said in a statement, "Last week, the League stated that we will review and consider Ms. Johnston's allegations as we would any others regarding workplace conduct at the Washington Commanders. The League, not the team, will conduct an independent investigation and will be retaining an investigator to determine the facts shortly."

"Apparently the NFL also recognized how absurd it was to think Dan Snyder could investigate himself," Johnston's attorney, Lisa Banks, said in a statement to ESPN. "We await communication from the NFL about whether it intends to undertake this investigation independently, and without any common interest agreement with Snyder. If the investigation is truly independent, and the NFL commits to make the findings public, my clients will be happy to participate."

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33253345/nfl-says-league-not-washington-commanders-oversee-investigation-dan-snyder-allegation[/url]

I almost spit my coffee out when I heard Dan Snyder has hired an "independent" investigator to look into the newest unearthed Ms. Johnston allegations (hand on thigh, trying to push her into a limo)

Zero self awareness.

Are we approaching the straw that broke the camels back territory for the NFL re Snyder? This repeated egg on face has to have other owners steamming.

rocnrik 02-09-2022 11:13 PM

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What bothers me the most is the NFL is not gonna get rid of Snyder .. so really the NFL is the problem.. make a damn stand against this and force the sell .. and f Watson ever coming here .. he is another just like Snyder who abuses his power ..

skinsfaninok 02-09-2022 11:46 PM

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The NBA kicked Sterling out , the NFL is absolutely a fucking joke

Redskins 2021 02-09-2022 11:59 PM

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He is not out of the woods yet. He has the riches man in the world who wants his team and congress looking into him.

Ruhskins 02-10-2022 12:21 AM

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[quote=rocnrik;1310303]What bothers me the most is the NFL is not gonna get rid of Snyder .. so really the NFL is the problem.. make a damn stand against this and force the sell .. and f Watson ever coming here .. he is another just like Snyder who abuses his power ..[/quote]

Here, fixed it for you:

"What bothers me the most is the [B]other NFL owners[/B] are not gonna get rid of Snyder .. so really the [B]NFL owners[/B] are the problem.. make a damn stand against this and force the sell .. and f Watson ever coming here .. he is another just like Snyder who abuses his power .."

rocnrik 02-10-2022 09:35 AM

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I get you but the owners are the NFL .. they control the league ..same difference, Goodell is the biggest puppet ever .

Giantone 02-10-2022 12:36 PM

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[quote=rocnrik;1310311]I get you but the owners are the NFL .. they control the league ..same difference, Goodell is the biggest puppet ever .[/quote]

The NFL made Richardson sell his stake in the Panthers, you never know.

Redskins247 02-10-2022 01:05 PM

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[quote=SunnySide;1310295]The NFL says the Washington Commanders' hiring of an investigative firm won't stop the league from conducting its own inquiry into Tiffani Johnston's allegations of sexual harassment against team owner Dan Snyder.

The Commanders announced Wednesday morning that Pallas Global Group LLC, led by former Assistant United States Attorneys Bonnie Jonas and Tiffany Moller, will manage an "independent investigation" into allegations made last week by Johnston before a congressional committee.

But the league clarified later Wednesday that the Commanders' investigation would be separate from any investigation or action taken by the NFL.

A league spokesman said in a statement, "Last week, the League stated that we will review and consider Ms. Johnston's allegations as we would any others regarding workplace conduct at the Washington Commanders. The League, not the team, will conduct an independent investigation and will be retaining an investigator to determine the facts shortly."

"Apparently the NFL also recognized how absurd it was to think Dan Snyder could investigate himself," Johnston's attorney, Lisa Banks, said in a statement to ESPN. "We await communication from the NFL about whether it intends to undertake this investigation independently, and without any common interest agreement with Snyder. If the investigation is truly independent, and the NFL commits to make the findings public, my clients will be happy to participate."

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33253345/nfl-says-league-not-washington-commanders-oversee-investigation-dan-snyder-allegation[/url]

I almost spit my coffee out when I heard Dan Snyder has hired an "independent" investigator to look into the newest unearthed Ms. Johnston allegations (hand on thigh, trying to push her into a limo)

Zero self awareness.

Are we approaching the straw that broke the camels back territory for the NFL re Snyder? This repeated egg on face has to have other owners steamming.[/quote]

I think we know the real issue is here, the owners would rather put up with this story and do whatever it takes to "control it" rather than force Snyder out and deal with his neverending lawsuits back against them as well as him dropping dirt on some of the other owners that would then put THEM in the limelight for the same reason that he is now. At most there will be another bigger fine, and/or "suspension" of Snyder...he's not going anywhere.

RobH4413 02-10-2022 02:25 PM

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I've always kept the door open to returning to the team if Snyder gets the boot.

My tenure as a Ravens fan may be shorter than I thought. With congress involved, and the NFL botching this investigation... it's done nothing but put the spotlight back on the disfunction.

All it takes is another major big story to put this in the rear view mirror, but it's starting to snowball IMO. My cynicism thinks this will go away, but momentum is a power thing.

Giantone 02-10-2022 02:52 PM

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[quote=Redskins247;1310332]I think we know the real issue is here, the owners would rather put up with this story and do whatever it takes to "control it" rather than force Snyder out and deal with his neverending lawsuits back against them as well as him dropping dirt on some of the other owners that would then put THEM in the limelight for the same reason that he is now. At most there will be another bigger fine, and/or "suspension" of Snyder...he's not going anywhere.[/quote]

What "never ending lawsuits"?

Redskins247 02-10-2022 05:52 PM

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[quote=Giantone;1310346]What "never ending lawsuits"?[/quote]

I'm saying IF they forced Snyder out, he would probably sue the league, every owner, Roger Goodell, all the accusers, and anyone else that he though may have been slightly involved.

Swarley 02-10-2022 08:35 PM

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[url]https://theathletic.com/news/nfl-blames-washington-commanders-for-withholding-documents-in-sexual-harassment-investigation/JqYJ4vnLgVNh/[/url]

things are heating up

FrenchSkin 02-10-2022 09:39 PM

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I'm telling you guys... this may very well be going somewhere... The league is flat out saying the organisation (=Dan) has been lying and refusing to give documents...

[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/10/nfl-accuses-washington-commanders-of-impeding-congressional-probe/[/url]

mredskins 02-10-2022 09:42 PM

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This great if it gets rid of Dan. It’s awful if it puts a cloud over Washington and deters any good qb coming here.

SFREDSKIN 02-10-2022 09:55 PM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1310361]I'm telling you guys... this may very well be going somewhere... The league is flat out saying the organisation (=Dan) has been lying and refusing to give documents...

[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/10/nfl-accuses-washington-commanders-of-impeding-congressional-probe/[/url][/quote]

That's a Florio (Douchebag) article, he hates Snyder. We'll see what happens.

FrenchSkin 02-10-2022 10:00 PM

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1310363]That's a Florio (Douchebag) article, he hates Snyder. We'll see what happens.[/QUOTE]He does, but many others have written similar articles, the facts are the same.

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rocnrik 02-10-2022 10:53 PM

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I know this is crazy .. but if the nfl forced Snyder out and new owner came in and hated the new name … could the commanders never take the field ??

jamf 02-10-2022 11:27 PM

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[quote=rocnrik;1310365]I know this is crazy .. but if the nfl forced Snyder out and new owner came in and hated the new name … could the commanders never take the field ??[/quote]

One step at a time buddy.
If we get a new owner, I would cheer for any name they wanted to call this cursed team.

Let’s go Washington Wisdomteeth!!

FrenchSkin 02-10-2022 11:30 PM

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[QUOTE=jamf;1310368]One step at a time buddy.

If we get a new owner, I would cheer for any name they wanted to call this cursed team.



Let’s go Washington Wisdomteeth!![/QUOTE]Hey hey don't bury our DC Farts so quickly !

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Chief X_Phackter 02-10-2022 11:31 PM

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[quote=mredskins;1310362]This great if it gets rid of Dan. It’s awful if it puts a cloud over Washington and deters any good qb coming here.[/quote]

That cloud would be temporary - way more temporary than Snyder's reign. Perhaps no QB this year in your scenario?...but the future would be B R I G H T!

Dlyne8r 02-10-2022 11:46 PM

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I’m sensing a change in attitude from the NFL. The screws appear to be tightening.

MTK 02-11-2022 09:48 AM

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[quote=rocnrik;1310365]I know this is crazy .. but if the nfl forced Snyder out and new owner came in and hated the new name … could the commanders never take the field ??[/quote]

If the uniform rules don't allow for changes for 5 years, I can't see the NFL being ok with multiple name changes in a very short period of time. Plus it would be an impossibly fast timeline to boot Snyder and approve a new owner, pick another name, new uniforms, and get everything in place for week 1.

FrenchSkin 02-11-2022 09:54 AM

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[quote=MTK;1310382]If the uniform rules don't allow for changes for 5 years, I can't see the NFL being ok with multiple name changes in a very short period of time. Plus it would be an impossibly fast timeline to boot Snyder and approve a new owner, pick another name, new uniforms, and get everything in place for week 1.[/quote]

Yeah that that timeline would sure be a shortcut to epic failure. Down the road though, if Snyder is out, anybody with the financial means to buy an NFL franchise probably has the ego to go with it, and renaming the team you just bought sure must be tempting, especially when the fanbase isn't very attached to the name yet. Rambling out, but it's not an impossible scenario.


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