Re: Albert Haynesworth is a Redskin!!!!
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;531093]Yup, heres a link to the podcast, i think this must have been done at 6AM or something. In case you cant listen to stuff like that at work, Cerrato also said he polled the defensive players and asked what they thought about Haynesworth and they were all in favor of getting him. He specifically mentioned talking with Fletcher and that Hall said, "go get the big guy."

[url=http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=65&c=427&f=22080]ESPN 980 Audio Vault - Play Now[/url][/quote]

Thanks. I get paid to listen to stuff like this at work :)

Re: Albert Haynesworth is a Redskin!!!!
 

[quote=Ruhskins;531095]Wikinson had two good years with us, and put up some really good numbers in his first year. His numbers were not the same the next two and had a bad final year with us.

Year Tkls/Solo/Sacks/FF
1998 44/38/7.5/0
1999 32/23/8.0/1
2000 21/16/3.5/0
2001 25/19/4/0
2002 16/12/0/0[/quote]

We still signed two guys big free agents and our defense during that time was not our strong point.

Our offense rolled us through the 2nd round of the playoffs in '99.

Re: Albert Haynesworth is a Redskin!!!!
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;531102]If true, that would be a great deal for a number of reasons:

1) We would be getting a much needed draft pick at a round certain to yield us a good special teams player at minimum.
2) If we couldnt trade him, we'd have to cut him and get nothing in return.
3) I get the pleasure of knowing we screwed Springs over by making him play for the sorry texans.
4) The Texans get a player who would never in a million years come to them of his own free will
[B]5) There arent as many stiff breezes in Houston, so theres less of a chance a 1 MPH wind will result in Springs being injured and inactive on gameday.[/B]
6) Springs will be much closer to his father and will have a shorter flight to visit him on the weeks he schedules his calf injuries.
7) Springs will be just a hop, skip, and jump away from his BFF Terrell Owens house. Instead of flying, he can just drive over to T.O.s crib and they can watch the playoffs together again.[/quote]

LMAO. Good one.

Seriously though, that trade would make sense.

Re: Albert Haynesworth is a Redskin!!!!
 

Well I don't know a bunch about these contracts but only 40 some million is guaranteed so he has to ern the rest if I'm reading that right. These guy's have ego's and most of these big deals never pay out close to what they sign for. I guess we will have to wait to see what the contract really is before coming to the conclusion about if we paid too much. It looks like we pay the bulk in the first couple of years so when his motor starts to run out we can get rid of him without a hugh hit.

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[quote=SmootSmack;531103]Thanks. I get paid to listen to stuff like this at work :)[/quote]

God, that idiot Cowherd is frothing at the mouth. He's claiming that we bat .100 on free agency moves. He is also claiming that we made huge splashes in free agency last year. Neither of those are remotely true.

Why do you guys let him on the air? He doesn't know what he's talking about.

Re: Albert Haynesworth is a Redskin!!!!
 

[quote=Skinny Tee;531104]We still signed two guys big free agents and our defense during that time was not our strong point.

Our offense rolled us through the 2nd round of the playoffs in '99.[/quote]

Well, here are the Redskins' defensive ranking between '98 and 2000.

[U]Year[/U] [U]Rank[/U]
1998 15th
[B]1999 2nd[/B]
2000 11th

In 2000 the defensive rankings fell to #28 and in 2001 they were only 20th.

Re: Albert Haynesworth is a Redskin!!!!
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;531083]I havent read all 6 pages here, but on ESPN980 this morning, Cerrato said Haynesworth took less money to come here than he was being offered by another team (presumably Tampa Bay.) Now, we can't necessarily beleive this because, of course, Cerrato wants to give fans the impression we got a great player and at a "bargain." However, if Cerrato can be beleived, [B]then it gives me hope that Hyanesworth is not all about the money.[/B] He's getting a ton of money, but he wanted to come somewhere:

1) In the spotlight. Haynesworth certainly wouldnt want to be in the spotlight if he had the intention of being a lazy SOB who didnt try.

2) Where he feels he has a chance to win.

Perhaps Haynesworth will play at - or above - the level he did in Tennessee for the next 2-3 years. It certainly sounds like we plan on using him sparingly. Cerrato said he anticipated Haynesworth to participate in 55-60% of the plays here, and that we plan to move him all over the line.[/quote]

BHA, If a 100M isnt all about the money, I dont know what is. I think coming to the Redskins probably gave him the most guaranteed money.

[quote]1) In the spotlight. Haynesworth certainly wouldnt want to be in the spotlight if he had the intention of being a lazy SOB who didnt try[/quote] He's in the spotlight wherever he goes.

I do agree with point 2 He definatly has a good chance of winning here. If he smells a Super Bowl in our near future well there's some more. $$$

With that said, I hope he is a beast for us. I'm not questioning his character as a football player but only stating the obvious, he's a great businessman as well as a player.

If I could pick any team to play on in a uncapped year, it would be the Skins.
As I said before I'm Happy and scared at the same time with this move.

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[quote=djnemo65;531109]God, that idiot Cowherd is frothing at the mouth. He's claiming that we bat .100 on free agency moves. He is also claiming that we made huge splashes in free agency last year. Neither of those are remotely true.

Why do you guys let him on the air? He doesn't know what he's talking about.[/quote]

Did he really say that? I'll go knock some sense into him

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[quote=SmootSmack;531103]Thanks. I get paid to listen to stuff like this at work :)[/quote]

Man can I have your job? I'm pretty decent with stats, I can do that as well. :)

Re: Albert Haynesworth is a Redskin!!!!
 

[quote=Skinny Tee;531033]I don't want to be a downer but I would like to be the voice of reason.

Is anyone old enough to remember the Dana Stubblefield and Dan Wilkinson signing years ago?...Don't get too excited for Haynesworth yet because he has yet to show what he can do in OUR system.

We got two stallwort DT's with Stubby and Wilkinson and their effect on our defense was minimal. Haynesworth is one person and subject to the scheme that he plays in.

Let's have some tempered realism with our expectations.[/quote]

We signed Stubblefield at the end of his career, much like Bruce Smith, Deion Sanders and half our roster in that "era" I needed a refresher on Wilkinson's production so I checked out his stats. He had 8.0 and 7.5 sacks in his first two years with us, actually up from his previous career average. Then he fell off to 3.5 and 4, but he did have 23 sacks in 4 years and even scored a TD for us. He was never brought in with the expectation of being the top defensive lineman in the game like Haynesworth, neither was the aging Stubblefield even though he was paid nicely from Snyder.

Haynesworth is still young and can have many productive years with us. Also, we've watched Snyder actually learn and become a smarter signer of players over the years. He actually addresses needs now rather than just paying for the best free agents he can get and trying to out-talent other teams. He's a much more competent owner than early in his career, I believe Joe Gibbs taught him a lot.

I trust him now. Back in the "Stubblefield" days, he was a reckless check writer. Now, the Redskins actually have a vision for the future instead of "just win now".

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[quote=Ruhskins;531122]Man can I have your job? I'm pretty decent with stats, I can do that as well. :)[/quote]

You don't even know what I do :)

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Danny is still the same ol dumbass he always was. 154 mil for 2 players. One of whom can't make it through a season without injuries. What a boob. I can only hope that the economy crushes his finances and forces him to sell of the team. Time to break out the 'FireDanSnyder.com" t-shirt I guess.

Re: Albert Haynesworth is a Redskin!!!!
 

[quote=SmootSmack;531121]Did he really say that? I'll go knock some sense into him[/quote]

Just knock him out. I can't stand that man. Forget about listening to his show, even his commercials and radio promos make me reach for the tuner to get him out of my speakers. Thank God for Sporting News Radio so I can listen to someone else when he's on.

Re: Albert Haynesworth is a Redskin!!!!
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;531091]You forget the redskins official motto in the Daniel Snyder era:

[B][I]"Just because its never worked before, that doesnt mean it wont start working now."[/I][/B][/quote]

LOL!

Re: Albert Haynesworth is a Redskin!!!!
 

[quote=djnemo65;531109]God, that idiot Cowherd is frothing at the mouth. He's claiming that we bat .100 on free agency moves. He is also claiming that we made huge splashes in free agency last year. Neither of those are remotely true.

Why do you guys let him on the air? He doesn't know what he's talking about.[/quote]

SS isn't in charge of that.

as far as batting %, overall it's not that bad, but on super high price FAs... it's terrible, and you need to hit at least .800+ on those.

i think we're still paying for lloyd... seriously? ouch.