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Haha Giantone just got served...

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[quote=The Goat;531951]Didn't catch that before... now i'm uber pissed.[/quote]



LOL...........I didn't take a shot at the Skins and you will see that from my posts I all in all respect the team and the players .........and no one has more admiration for Joe Gibbs then I have .My perspective is that from a fan of another team.Dan Snyder is bad for the NFL and so is Jerry Jones and Al Davis,are they personelly nice people ....hell I don't know,the Danny seems to be.I'm irritated that my team now feels it must do what your'e team did to it's fans, screw us over to stay even.
We're leaving a perfectly good stadium to move 10 yards away just so we can own it and charge the fans more money and why to keep up with only 3 owners ,PSL's are getting rid of fans who have had their seats for as long as 60 some odd years.It doesn't matter if it's Haynsworth or Howdy Doody......no linemen ,Giant Eagle ,Cowboys ...........or Skin should get 100 mill(I know really 48).....he had a good year no doubt but he hasn't earned it.Now our linemen who feel they also must get the same thing,so we ...like the Skins must charge 8$ for a water down lite beer and 5$ for a hotdog....oh yeah and $12,500 for PSL's and another $2800 for the tickets .I haven't even mention the parking, but hey.......nice pick up.:)

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[quote=Giantone;531976]LOL...........I didn't take a shot at the Skins and you will see that from my posts I all in all respect the team and the players .........and no one has more admiration for Joe Gibbs then I have .My perspective is that from a fan of another team.Dan Snyder is bad for the NFL and so is Jerry Jones and Al Davis,are they personelly nice people ....hell I don't know,the Danny seems to be.I'm irritated that my team now feels it must do what your'e team did to it's fans, screw us over to stay even.
We're leaving a perfectly good stadium to move 10 yards away just so we can own it and charge the fans more money and why to keep up with only 3 owners ,PSL's are getting rid of fans who have had their seats for as long as 60 some odd years.It doesn't matter if it's Haynsworth or Howdy Doody......no linemen ,Giant Eagle ,Cowboys ...........or Skin should get 100 mill(I know really 48).....he had a good year no doubt but he hasn't earned it.Now our linemen who feel they also must get the same thing,so we ...like the Skins must charge 8$ for a water down lite beer and 5$ for a hotdog....oh yeah and $12,500 for PSL's and another $2800 for the tickets .I haven't even mention the parking, but hey.......nice pick up.:)[/quote]
There were about 6 other teams offering pretty much the same money, which is why it took so long to get done. Yeah, blame Snyder. :doh:

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I do.

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[quote=Giantone;531987]I do.[/quote]

PSLs weren't Snyder's idea. Snyder also isn't buildng a new stadium. Teams having a desire to maximize their earnings isn't Danny's fault. The NFL is a cash cow. It has a fantastic product, but teams only get 8 regular season games all year to turn a profit from the live fan. That's the reason it's much more expensive to go to games than any other major sport.

Are Snyder or any other owners supposed to be "nice" to the fans by keeping all prices (tickets, concessions, etc) dirt cheap? It's a nice thought but a suicidal business model.

I don't like how expensive all things NFL have become, but it is what it is. It's not Snyder's fault, and it's not gonna change either.

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[quote=Mattyk72;531789]I'm just going by his attitude and the way he presented himself overall. He seems to be very aware of the kind of player he is and someone that has learned from his past mistakes. And he seems to be motivated to be a great player for reasons other than just a big paycheck. I could be totally wrong of course, that was just my impression of him as a person. He seems to have his head on straight and his priorities in order.[/quote]

I agree that he made a good impression but thats all it is, an impression. He knows what to say and what the fans want to hear. Its impossible to tell if his head is on straight and whether he'll play for that big check. Time will tell.

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[quote=GMScud;531991]PSLs weren't Snyder's idea. Snyder also isn't buildng a new stadium. Teams having a desire to maximize their earnings isn't Danny's fault. The NFL is a cash cow. It has a fantastic product, but teams only get 8 regular season games all year to turn a profit from the live fan. That's the reason it's much more expensive to go to games than any other major sport.

Are Snyder or any other owners supposed to be "nice" to the fans by keeping all prices (tickets, concessions, etc) dirt cheap? It's a nice thought but a suicidal business model.

I don't like how expensive all things NFL have become, but it is what it is. It's not Snyder's fault, and it's not gonna change either.[/quote]

Did you read my post,becuase it doesn't seem like it by your response.
Never said they were his idea,but the way he runs his business(this case the Skins) is detrimental to the league as a whole.Nothing wrong with an owner being a fan but you need to be able to seperate yourself and he just doesn't or can't do that.
That turn the profit thing well ....there just isn't enough time,most the profit comes from the TV rights,where he and others(just not him)gouge the fan is by the things I said ................About being nice to the fans ........yes.They(we) are the ones that matter,so it's ok by you to price out the fan and have all games now corprate seats,with this economy.. .that might bite them in the butt.Maybe you think it's good business but the Dannys other business interst are starting to turn(Six Flaggs)sour,I remember JKC and WM and how they did it for the fans like the Rooneys(sp) not for the almighty dollar and that is what made them successful and buy doing it that way .............rich to.

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[quote=Mattyk72;531789]I'm just going by his attitude and the way he presented himself overall. He seems to be very aware of the kind of player he is and someone that has learned from his past mistakes. And he seems to be motivated to be a great player for reasons other than just a big paycheck. I could be totally wrong of course, that was just my impression of him as a person. He seems to have his head on straight and his priorities in order.[/quote]

he said all the right things and handled it very well, so that's good... but talk is cheap. we'll have to wait for the season to see how it plays out on the field.

edit: I'm not saying i think he's going to shut it down, just that, at this point, it's a bad argument on both sides since there's nothing factual to judge him by... yet.

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Giantone, I wonder if you work hard at your hateration skills and if you are capable of saying something nice about the Redskins.

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Just curious. I really don't know. Has Eli signed his 120 million dollar, 40 million dollar guaranteed extention yet?

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[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/493004]Eli Manning, New York Giants, NFL - CBSSports.com Football[/url]

Contract coming for Eli Manning?: A number of media outlets in New York reported recently that the Giants and QB Eli Manning are close to a new contract worth well over $100 million. However, the Newark Star-Ledger was the latest to report that a deal between both sides is not imminent. Manning is scheduled to be a free agent after the 2009 season.

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[quote=44ever;532095][url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/493004]Eli Manning, New York Giants, NFL - CBSSports.com Football[/url]

Contract coming for Eli Manning?: A number of media outlets in New York reported recently that the Giants and QB Eli Manning are close to a new contract worth well over $100 million. However, the Newark Star-Ledger was the latest to report that a deal between both sides is not imminent. Manning is scheduled to be a free agent after the 2009 season.[/quote]

I'm sure it will be in the 130-140Mil range. Shit, between Eli and Payton they could mom and dad a couple of houses.

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[quote=saden1;532077]Giantone, I wonder if you work hard at your hateration skills and if you are capable of [B]saying something nice about the Redskins.[/B][/quote]

Good luck with that.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;532096]I'm sure it will be in the 130-140Mil range. Shit, between Eli and Payton they could mom and dad a couple of houses.[/quote]

a couple of new houses paid in full (and in cash) each year, every year, until the end of time.

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I voted love it , worth money for the simple fact that the Redskin FO has seemed to have figured out the current salary cap structure. The salary cap doesn't seemed to big as big of factor as one would think.

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[quote=saden1;532077]Giantone, I wonder if you work hard at your hateration skills and if you are capable of saying something nice about the Redskins.[/quote]


When have I said I hated the Skins ,NEVER!Don't let facts stand in your way.As far as Eli is concerned ...............how many other QBs make over the 100 million mark but as I say that I'll say you just made my point also,tell me If you were a super bowl MVP and a D lineman comes in who hasn't won anything and he gets 100 mill ,should'nt the QB?

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[quote=Ruhskins;532099]Good luck with that.[/quote]

ok,............I liked the all Burgandy uniform,happy?:food-smil

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Hmmm. No Redskins on this list. But there is a Giant. [url=http://content.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/top25.aspx?year=2008]USATODAY.com[/url]

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not my money, great pick up

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Redskin Insider:

Posted at 4:00 PM ET, 03/11/2009
Haynesworth to Start Work Monday

Jason Reid reports:

New Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth -- the NFL's highest-paid defensive player -- plans to participate in the team's offseason conditioning program beginning Monday at Redskins Park, his agent said today.

Haynesworth, who lives year-round at his homes in Nashville and Knoxville, Tenn., is eager to begin the next chapter of his career, said his representative, Chad Speck. The Redskins lured Haynesworth from Tennessee with a seven-year, $100-million contract that could be worth as much as $115 million based on his performance.

The package includes a NFL record $41 million in guaranteed money, and Haynesworth is assured of receiving $32 million in the first 13 months of the contract.

It is important to owner Daniel Snyder and Vinny Cerrato, Washington's executive vice president of football operations, to have the team's high-profile players involved in the program at the complex to build "team chemistry," Cerrato said recently. The Redskins released Pro Bowl defensive end Jason Taylor because he balked at Snyder's request to have a workout clause added to his contract. Haynesworth and cornerback DeAngelo Hall, who re-signed with the team minutes before the free agent market opened, have workout clauses in their contracts, Cerrato said.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;536074]Redskin Insider:

Posted at 4:00 PM ET, 03/11/2009
Haynesworth to Start Work Monday

Jason Reid reports:

New Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth -- the NFL's highest-paid defensive player -- plans to participate in the team's offseason conditioning program beginning Monday at Redskins Park, his agent said today.

Haynesworth, who lives year-round at his homes in Nashville and Knoxville, Tenn., is eager to begin the next chapter of his career, said his representative, Chad Speck. The Redskins lured Haynesworth from Tennessee with a seven-year, $100-million contract that could be worth as much as $115 million based on his performance.

The package includes a NFL record $41 million in guaranteed money, and Haynesworth is assured of receiving $32 million in the first 13 months of the contract.

It is important to owner Daniel Snyder and Vinny Cerrato, Washington's executive vice president of football operations, to have the team's high-profile players involved in the program at the complex to build "team chemistry," Cerrato said recently. The Redskins released Pro Bowl defensive end Jason Taylor because he balked at Snyder's request to have a workout clause added to his contract. Haynesworth and cornerback DeAngelo Hall, who re-signed with the team minutes before the free agent market opened, have workout clauses in their contracts, Cerrato said.[/quote]

Good for him, I'm glad he's starting things with the Redskins on the right foot.

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[quote=Mattyk;531760]Going by his presser I'm not worried about him slacking off.[/quote]

LOL. Oh hindsight, how you make me laugh. I'm not trying to beat the dead horse here, I was just looking for some comic relief about how wrong we all were about Haynesworth. And oh how I found it.

From now on I will take an unsupportive approach of whatever free agents we sign, especially those lacking in character, or w/e other reason, until they prove on the field that they are worth all the money the Redskins pay them. I'm completely sure in future years everybody in the NFL will regard the Haynesworth signing as along the exact same lines of Bruce Smith, Mark Carrier, Deion Sanders signings of a decade ago.

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[quote=skinsfan69;531007]I'm 100% not in favor of this move. History shows that these type of moves rarely pan out. Haynesworth has already played 7 years and has a history of getting hurt and has questionable character. The only good thing about this is that we didn't have to give up draft picks. Another bad move by the FO.[/quote]

I should be a freakin GM and they can pay me half the money.

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[quote=12thMan;531787]I too was impressed with Haynesworth's presser. Boy, is the NFC East going to be nasty once again this year.[/quote]

Yeah it's nasty alright. Like old rotting garbage nasty.:spank:

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[quote=Mattyk;530946]I think it's safe to say right now AH is more dominant than Butz ever was.[/quote]

please do no mention Butz in the same sentence as Fat Albert :spank:

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It looks like almost all of the WP is going to be eating a lot of crow in this thread. Can anyone go back and find a post in here where they said AH was a bad investment? Its time for you to be applauded for sound judgement. :rofl:

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EHrrrrrrrrr............I'll be in the Drunk thread!

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[quote=DynamiteRave;766691]It looks like almost all of the WP is going to be eating a lot of crow in this thread. Can anyone go back and find a post in here where they said AH was a bad investment? Its time for you to be applauded for sound judgement. :rofl:[/quote]

Honestly though this had disaster written all over it. Never ever give a bad character guy big money.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;766691]It looks like almost all of the WP is going to be eating a lot of crow in this thread. Can anyone go back and find a post in here where they said AH was a bad investment? Its time for you to be applauded for sound judgement. :rofl:[/quote]


[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/28603-albert-haynesworth-is-a-redskin-13.html#post531328[/url]

Page 13 of this thread.

"Don't want Haynesworth at all. I think it would be a huge mistake."

In that quote I am pointing out that I had in fact predicted that AH would be a Redskin and that was several days before we actually did sign him.

Thumbs up for wilsowilso.

Then again I did start a thread calling Jim Zorn a great coach before the start of last season.

Then again I did say Brady Quinn was going to be a flat out bust before he was drafted.

Then again I did start the "Tom the Iceman Brady" thread many years ago in which I stated that guy is the best football player I have ever seen. Period. I still like my argument on that one.

What are we talking about again?

Oh yeah that POS overgrown toddler. What a total joke that clown is.

Called it.

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DRave, that is so funny! LOL. This thread is great.

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Brady kicks ass. By far the coolest customer in the NFL.

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Picture of the Warpath the day or two after Haynesworth was signed.
[IMG]http://brasskeys.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/fox_news_jonestown_web.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=DynamiteRave;766691]It looks like almost all of the WP is going to be eating a lot of crow in this thread. Can anyone go back and find a post in here where they said AH was a bad investment? Its time for you to be applauded for sound judgement. :rofl:[/quote]

I've been quoted in a D-Rave sig! I've arrived!

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[quote=RedskinPete;530920]
No more Bradon Jacobs running up the middle like last years season opener!

![/quote]


.............got to love old threads.

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[quote=Giantone;766740].............got to love old threads.[/quote]

You should start gloating after the game. Not 3 days later. I hope you know we are going to stop your Playoff run this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[quote=warpaint;766741]You should start gloating after the game. Not 3 days later. I hope you know we are going to stop your Playoff run this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]


I only look at 1 game at a time.:)

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[quote=Giantone;766744]I only look at 1 game at a time.:)[/quote]

Giants have nothing to worry about, as far as Skins are concerned. Pressure McNabb all day and the game is yours. Very simple.

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Can this thread title be changed to - Albert Haynseworth is a worthless fat slob.

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The Gospel of yesterday soon becomes the rubbish of tomorrow.......
Thankyou AH

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Hindsight sure is a bitch eh

AH came in the door saying all the right things, just another thing that's so frustrating about him.