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SBXVII 04-30-2011 02:29 PM

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I guess the big secret is they are gunna use Bryant at NT? or the Jarvis kid even though they claim he will be DE?

Alvin Walton 04-30-2011 02:29 PM

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[quote=81forHOF;799460]another reach[/quote]

Its the 5th round.
What isnt a reach?

SkinzWin 04-30-2011 02:29 PM

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Gomes has the physicality and mentality to be a reserve defensive back who lines up near the box in nickel and dime packages while also providing special teams coverage value. Comfortable playing in zone down near the line, breaks well on the ball and is quick and aggressive in run support. Not capable of roaming the deep half or shadowing receivers, tight ends or backs in man coverage at the next level. Not comfortable tackling out in space. Durable and has the build to hold up in the NFL. Gomes has some limitations, but still warrant a late round selection or free agent consideration.


Don't like this pick. At least he is guaranteed to be good on a Turkey and Swiss Panini.

Swarley 04-30-2011 02:30 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;799465]I guess the big secret is they are gunna use Bryant at NT? or the Jarvis kid even though they claim he will be DE?[/quote]

have they claimed that? I though he (Jarvis) said he's expected to play NT.

Lotus 04-30-2011 02:30 PM

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Gomes is an odd pick.

SmootSmack 04-30-2011 02:30 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;799442]I have lost faith in Smoot. I mean not only has he not called a pick since round 1 but now I'm about to get sued for Sexual Harrasment.[/quote]

Been telling you about Hankerson for weeks...never even heard of Gomes

Redskin Jim 04-30-2011 02:30 PM

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Really glowing write up on NFL.com for this kid.- "Not capable of roaming the deep half or shadowing receivers, tight ends or backs in man coverage at the next level. Not comfortable tackling out in space."

Son Of Man 04-30-2011 02:31 PM

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Gomes, at least, appears to be a high volume tackler. Hey, It's the 5th round!

Alvin Walton 04-30-2011 02:31 PM

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If we have special teamers and back up DB's currently on the roster bubble then this is a decent need pick.

SFREDSKIN 04-30-2011 02:32 PM

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[quote=Redskin Jim;799471]Really glowing write up on NFL.com for this kid.- "Not capable of roaming the deep half or shadowing receivers, tight ends or backs in man coverage at the next level. Not comfortable tackling out in space."[/quote]

Must be a Haslett pick.

Dirtbag59 04-30-2011 02:32 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;799470]Been telling you about Hankerson for weeks...never even heard of Gomes[/quote]

Dude, it looks better for me if I can say you only got one.

SkinzWin 04-30-2011 02:32 PM

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[quote=GreekSkin;799468]have they claimed that? I though he (Jarvis) said he's expected to play NT.[/quote]

I never said that.

Chico23231 04-30-2011 02:32 PM

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[quote=Redskin Jim;799471]Really glowing write up on NFL.com for this kid.- "Not capable of roaming the deep half or shadowing receivers, tight ends or backs in man coverage at the next level. Not comfortable tackling out in space."[/quote]

Heres the write up on CNN.SI: No Positives

Negatives: Struggles in battles and gets outmatched by opponents. Was Nebraska's nickel back and never a true starting cornerback.

Projection: 7th


Great pick

Redskin Jim 04-30-2011 02:33 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;799474]Must be a Haslett pick.[/quote]

HAHAHA!! No effing doubt.:)

81forHOF 04-30-2011 02:34 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;799466]Its the 5th round.
What isnt a reach?[/quote]
I hear what your saying. I just think our last 2 picks would have been available in the 7th round.

CRedskinsRule 04-30-2011 02:34 PM

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5th round, every write up is going to have negatives written in. In fact I think the 5th-7th round of the draft ought to have a nickname like the "Oh not THAT guy" draft

Dirtbag59 04-30-2011 02:34 PM

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No. 146: Redskins select: DeJon Gomes, SS, Nebraska Grade
This a decent pick and will add depth to the secondary. He is likely to contribute on special teams. C+

C+? What is this my college report card?

martytheman 04-30-2011 02:35 PM

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I guess the skins are looking at a glut of DL on the roster and not willing to part with some of them... Only reason I see to not take Powe at NT, other than the fact that they might not be sold on him bc of his weight issues.

saden1 04-30-2011 02:35 PM

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Love the pick. DeJon Gomes was overshadowed by the two fantastic corners they had.

SmootSmack 04-30-2011 02:35 PM

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Well we need CB depth

81forHOF 04-30-2011 02:36 PM

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[quote=Son Of Man;799472]Gomes, at least, appears to be a high volume tackler. Hey, It's the 5th round![/quote]

Our inability to find talent in the mid rounds is a large part of the reason that we consistently suck.

SkinzWin 04-30-2011 02:36 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;799484]Well we need CB depth[/quote]

Maybe they know something even the great and powerful SS doesn't know about Los....

Dirtbag59 04-30-2011 02:37 PM

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[quote=SkinzWin;799486]Maybe they know something even the great and powerful SS doesn't know about Los....[/quote]

Nah SS knows about the Los.

Redskin Jim 04-30-2011 02:38 PM

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Eagles just got another nice RB from Pitt. Dion Lewis is a player. Effing Eagles..

Dirtbag59 04-30-2011 02:38 PM

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Helu is 220 pounds? WTF? I think we just found Ahman Green before he went to Houston and sucked.

Lotus 04-30-2011 02:38 PM

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[quote=saden1;799483]Love the pick. DeJon Gomes was overshadowed by the two fantastic corners they had.[/quote]

Now that's funny.

I don't get the pick. Grab Devlin or McElroy. Grab some lineman that we've never heard of. But there seems to be no place for Gomes, who seems not to be worth a space, anyway.

SBXVII 04-30-2011 02:38 PM

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[quote=GreekSkin;799468]have they claimed that? I though he (Jarvis) said he's expected to play NT.[/quote]

Per Redskins.com
[quote]Jenkins, 6-4 and 309 pounds, is expected to play defensive end in Jim Haslett’s 3-4 scheme in Washington[/quote]

Take it for what it's worth. I also thought MS supposedly commented on him and said he would play DE.

Alvin Walton 04-30-2011 02:39 PM

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[quote=81forHOF;799485]Our inability to find talent in the mid rounds is a large part of the reason that we consistently suck.[/quote]

Well, I'd break that down in 12 parts and since some of them dont make picks for the Rdeskins any more, I'm going to remain optomistic.

Beemnseven 04-30-2011 02:39 PM

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[quote=81forHOF;799430]Greg Jones ILB Mich St is still available. his build is a little slight but he was a hell of a playmaker. Most rankings have him as a second rnd talent[/quote]

That'll be the second time we've drafted a linebacker named Greg Jones.

Dirtbag59 04-30-2011 02:40 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;799491]Per Redskins.com


Take it for what it's worth. I also thought MS supposedly commented on him and said he would play DE.[/quote]

Jenkins says they told him NT, Shanahan told the media DE. FWIW.

vallin21 04-30-2011 02:40 PM

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Gomes is depth. Bad for Horton or Moore. We don't know what Jenkins is yet. Some Jenkins himself said NT, Shanahan said DE, but either way I'm not fully sold; NT still needs to be addressed.

Dirtbag59 04-30-2011 02:40 PM

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We're going to take a position that we don't need. I'm guessing TE or punter.

Son Of Man 04-30-2011 02:40 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;799492]Well, I'd break that down in 12 parts and since some of them dont make picks for the Rdeskins any more, I'm going to remain optomistic.[/quote]

This.

Dirtbag59 04-30-2011 02:41 PM

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Lol remember Dennis Morris.

TheMalcolmConnection 04-30-2011 02:41 PM

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Anyone taken the kicker from Nebraska?

sdskinsfan2001 04-30-2011 02:41 PM

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Its the 5th round, we are getting some depth baby. Doughty is a free agent so DeJon Gomes will come in and be the back up SS. Now we have Atogwe and Landry as starters with Moore and Gomes as the backups. Another position settled.

Barnes, Atogwe, Landry, Hall - starting secondary
Orakpo, Fletcher, Riley, Kerrigan - starting Linebackers
Carriker, Bryant (Powe should be our next pick if available), Jenkins - starting defensive linemen

Hopefully we can resign Buchannon as our 3rd CB. Or use a pick to draft a prospect with a late pick. Gotta think positive guys.

Son Of Man 04-30-2011 02:42 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;799499]Anyone taken the kicker from Nebraska?[/quote]

Eagles in the 4th.

SkinzWin 04-30-2011 02:42 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;799498]Lol remember Dennis Morris.[/quote]

I was hoping he was going to be good.

I think they like Bryant at the NT position more than you realize.

Dirtbag59 04-30-2011 02:42 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;799499]Anyone taken the kicker from Nebraska?[/quote]

FOR THE 11 BILLIONTH TIME YES! We will be facing HIM and Casey Matthews. TWICE A YEAR. As you can tell from the TONE of my VOICE I am very HAPPY for the EAGLES.

Alvin Walton 04-30-2011 02:42 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;799499]Anyone taken the kicker from Nebraska?[/quote]

You want three Braska guys in this draft????


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