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Ron's teams don't give up on him and they typically finish strong. Gotta give him that credit. He knows how to lead. It's only fair if we pile on when they lose that we give him his due when they are winning.

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[quote=MTK;1329931]Ron's teams don't give up on him and they typically finish strong. Gotta give him that credit. He knows how to lead. It's only fair if we pile on when they lose that we give him his due when they are winning.[/quote]

Definitely appears to be a very strong leader in the locker-room, away from what we have access to. You can see that in the post-game locker-room after the Eagles game.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1329931]Ron's teams don't give up on him and they typically finish strong. Gotta give him that credit. He knows how to lead. It's only fair if we pile on when they lose that we give him his due when they are winning.[/QUOTE]


I wish he could prepare as well as he rallies. Its not good for our hearts to have all these code reds.

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I just wish that RR's teams wouldn't have such slow starts every year. It's maddening. We could easily have won v. Detroit, Minn, and Tenn. (Of course, we won squeakers against the Colts, Bears, and Packers too.)

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He still insisted on Hiring Scott Turner, so he is not perfect

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The key was benching Wentz. Not meaning to throw it all on him but the chemistry was just way off. Some was obviously on Turner. We don't have a QB that can chuck it around 45+ times, even though we have the pass catchers to do it. They need to be balanced at 60% runs and 40% passes.

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more good then bad. Team seems committed to him and he's kept most of the drama out of the locker room. I wish he benched WJ3 earlier though.

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As if the losing seasons aren’t enough reason there is this…..

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/ron-rivera-apparently-had-no-clue-the-commanders-could-be-eliminated-in-week-17-220023631.html[/url]

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[quote=punch it in;1334628]As if the losing seasons aren’t enough reason there is this…..

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/ron-rivera-apparently-had-no-clue-the-commanders-could-be-eliminated-in-week-17-220023631.html[/url][/quote]

Think they could have been more economical with their words, "Ron Rivera apparently had no clue" would have sufficed

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[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1334631]Think they could have been more economical with their words, "Ron Rivera apparently had no clue" would have sufficed[/QUOTE]


Yes. Yes it would have. All kidding aside how in the absolute hell are you the HC and have no idea that losing todays game puts you in a position where you can be eliminated today? This guy is a joke.

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[quote=punch it in;1334633]Yes. Yes it would have. All kidding aside how in the absolute hell are you the HC and have no idea that losing todays game puts you in a position where you can be eliminated today? This guy is a joke.[/quote]

Honestly I think he was confident they would win and that what anyone else does didn't matter. Think he was also confident they would beat the Giants twice. They should have won all three, but if Ron was overconfident the team feeds off of that and it reflected in the effort the last 4 games, minus 49ers

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[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1334634]Honestly I think he was confident they would win and that what anyone else does didn't matter. Think he was also confident they would beat the Giants twice. They should have won all three, but if Ron was overconfident the team feeds off of that and it reflected in the effort the last 4 games, minus 49ers[/QUOTE]


I think you are being too kind. Ron definitely had no idea that next weeks game might not matter. The question was in reference to who would play quarterback against Dallas if the game didn’t matter. After a long pause he asks “we can be eliminated “? WTF? This is after the L, so forget about winning and not caring about other teams. That ship sailed when your team shit the bed. At that point the reporters, fans, and the dude who collects scrap metal out of the local dumpsters in town all knew that next weeks game might be meaningless but the HC didn’t? Thats absolutely bat shit crazy.

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Another thing about Rivera, we never get a straight answer on injuries. He keeps injuries a secret, perfect examples are the Young dilemma, Holcomb foot, Schweitzer long concussion and others. What the fuck is up with that. That was never an issue with other coaching staffs.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1334660]Another thing about Rivera, we never get a straight answer on injuries. He keeps injuries a secret, perfect examples are the Young dilemma, Holcomb foot, Schweitzer long concussion and others. What the fuck is up with that. That was never an issue with other coaching staffs.[/QUOTE]


He probably has no idea. Like I see him just drifting off in thought while he is being updated. Or while he is throwing a challenge flag. Or when he needs to use a timeout. Or when he is making personnel decisions. Or when someone asks him about us being eliminated. Or when he makes toast. Or…..

Re: Ron Rivera
 

[quote=MTK;1329931]Ron's teams don't give up on him and they typically finish strong. Gotta give him that credit. He knows how to lead. It's only fair if we pile on when they lose that we give him his due when they are winning.[/quote]

Sorry Matty but this didn't age well.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1334660]Another thing about Rivera, we never get a straight answer on injuries. He keeps injuries a secret, perfect examples are the Young dilemma, Holcomb foot, Schweitzer long concussion and others. What the fuck is up with that. That was never an issue with other coaching staffs.[/quote]

Let's be honest, this is standard practice in other leagues.

In the NHL injuries are classified often as "lower body, upper body, etc." without specifics unless it's something major.

The idea here is not giving your opponent a competitive advantage by giving them a perfect timeline of when they will be back.

I'm comfortable with him being vague on injuries, we need all the competitive advantage we can get at this point (which is hilarious to say about a team that was in the thick of the playoff hunt two weeks ago).

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[quote=punch it in;1334628]As if the losing seasons aren’t enough reason there is this…..

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/ron-rivera-apparently-had-no-clue-the-commanders-could-be-eliminated-in-week-17-220023631.html[/url][/quote]

What a piss poor example of coaching

Re: Ron Rivera
 

Time to go.

3 years and NO winning seasons.

The fluke division title was only because Dak got hurt.

Ron is a great guy and a players coach but he’s old and outdated. It’s time for this whole staff to be gone.

They won’t do it though which pisses me off the most


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[QUOTE=htownskinfan;1334680]What a piss poor example of coaching[/QUOTE]


His losing seasons certainly are. This oblivious response is just the cherry on top of a mountain of head scratching decisions both on the field as HC, and off the field as GM.

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What is Ron known for? I know he played for bears .. but is he a Defensive guy or has he ever called plays ? I guess he views himself as a overseeing type guy .. I don’t know , nice enough person and I wish him all the best however I’m not sure why he is a head coach … he is not that innovative .. I can’t blame it on his age look at Andy Reid.. the better teams seem to have a head coach that excels at Offense or defense.. All I ever see is Ron starring straight ahead with his arms folded .. what exactly does he do ??

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1334634]Honestly I think he was confident they would win and that what anyone else does didn't matter. Think he was also confident they would beat the Giants twice. s[/quote]

That is typically when you lose, underestimating your opponent.

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1334691]What is Ron known for? I know he played for bears .. but is he a Defensive guy or has he ever called plays ? I guess he views himself as a overseeing type guy .. I don’t know , nice enough person and I wish him all the best however I’m not sure why he is a head coach … he is not that innovative .. I can’t blame it on his age look at Andy Reid.. the better teams seem to have a head coach that excels at Offense or defense.. All I ever see is Ron starring straight ahead with his arms folded .. what exactly does he do ??[/QUOTE]


Lol. Completely agree. He brings nothing to the table. He certainly isn’t a personnel guy although he plays one on tv.

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Ron came back and said “he knew of the situation he was just irritated “ lolol yeah ok


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If they teams actually sells over the season, we about to see a complete 180 in every aspect of this franchise

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I can’t believe someone would drop billions and keeps this clown show in place …it will be a total purge .

Re: Ron Rivera
 

Mike Tomlin has 15 Straight NON LOSING SEASONS 15!!!

Ron can’t even muster up a winning season or .500 season lmao. He’s a bum


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I was wondering this morning whether Rons lack of awareness affected whether he would pull Wentz. Obviously there is some ego in proving he was right, but if he had known the situation was a must win would he have pulled Wentz and put Heinicke in at the half. It seemed obvious from the 1st Qtr that Wentz was completely lost.

My point being the counter argument to those who said, not on here, that Ron doesn't need to know the implications of other games, that the situation dictated a shorter leash fo Wentz

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1334736]Mike Tomlin has 15 Straight NON LOSING SEASONS 15!!!

Ron can’t even muster up a winning season or .500 season lmao. He’s a bum


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I work with a lot of Pittsburgh people and they don’t like him. Say it is a general consensus among Steelers fans. Unbelievable

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1334737]I was wondering this morning whether Rons lack of awareness affected whether he would pull Wentz. Obviously there is some ego in proving he was right, but if he had known the situation was a must win would he have pulled Wentz and put Heinicke in at the half. It seemed obvious from the 1st Qtr that Wentz was completely lost.

My point being the counter argument to those who said, not on here, that Ron doesn't need to know the implications of other games, that the situation dictated a shorter leash fo Wentz[/quote]

If he came out of last week with an 80% view Wentz should start, then no. Nothing to say, if he had faith in him, he couldn't turn it around in the 2nd half. Subbing him in the 4th or even mid 3rd quarter would show he doubted his own decision, likely why he stuck with him.

If he had a 55% view, then yes, he should have pulled Wentz as soon as it looked like he was lost.

Either way, this speaks to Ron's ego getting in the way of sound decision making. Wentz, to date, hasn't shown anything that suggested he should ever start another game. Screw practice, his game performance at the end of last season and early this season showed that.

We need a fresh new YOUNG coaching staff that will have faith in young guys getting their bumps in game and learning. We've wasted another year of Scary's capability, and while we've learned that Samuel and Dotson can contribute we've also lost an opportunity to get best use out of them too.

But next season hinges on a quick sale of the team so the new guy can begin rebuilding before FA and the draft. If we don't sell soon, Ron will be back and we'll likely end up letting Wentz go and pursue Carr. Likely a similar scenario to this season. :(

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1334742]If he came out of last week with an 80% view Wentz should start, then no. Nothing to say, if he had faith in him, he couldn't turn it around in the 2nd half. Subbing him in the 4th or even mid 3rd quarter would show he doubted his own decision, likely why he stuck with him.

If he had a 55% view, then yes, he should have pulled Wentz as soon as it looked like he was lost.

Either way, this speaks to Ron's ego getting in the way of sound decision making. Wentz, to date, hasn't shown anything that suggested he should ever start another game. Screw practice, his game performance at the end of last season and early this season showed that.

[B]We need a fresh new YOUNG coaching staff [/B]that will have faith in young guys getting their bumps in game and learning. We've wasted another year of Scary's capability, and while we've learned that Samuel and Dotson can contribute we've also lost an opportunity to get best use out of them too.

But next season hinges on a quick sale of the team so the new guy can begin rebuilding before FA and the draft. If we don't sell soon, Ron will be back and we'll likely end up letting Wentz go and pursue Carr. Likely a similar scenario to this season. :([/quote]

100% Agree, bring in Kellen Moore! He knows offense and the players like him.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1334739]I work with a lot of Pittsburgh people and they don’t like him. Say it is a general consensus among Steelers fans. Unbelievable[/quote]

I don't like the Steelers but I really like Mike Tomlin.

Them not liking Tomlin, is even more of a reason to dislike the team.

Re: Ron Rivera
 

Washington Media and fans on Twitter are done with Ron. Folks bringing up the fact that Zorn had a better win % is insane. 4 weeks ago this team was the 6th seed. All they had to do was win 2 out of the last 5!! And they choked it away. That’s all on coaching 100% no other way around it. This is a staff of losers


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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1334745]I don't like the Steelers but I really like Mike Tomlin.

Them not liking Tomlin, is even more of a reason to dislike the team.[/quote]

I actually dislike the Steelers more than the Giants in many ways. Steelers fans are like the Dallas except they have an inferiority complex

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1334739]I work with a lot of Pittsburgh people and they don’t like him. Say it is a general consensus among Steelers fans. Unbelievable[/quote]

Yes unbelievable, spoiled. Many Seattle fans were wanting Carroll gone he's been the best thing that shithole has ever had.

Re: Ron Rivera
 

Hey Ron, Rodgers thanks you for your worst shit job yet.

'Big thanks.' Packers' Aaron Rodgers praises Browns for win over Commanders

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/big-thanks-packers-aaron-rodgers-005049189.html[/url]

Fuckin' Ron. You suck!

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[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1334737]I was wondering this morning whether Rons lack of awareness affected whether he would pull Wentz. Obviously there is some ego in proving he was right, but if he had known the situation was a must win would he have pulled Wentz and put Heinicke in at the half. It seemed obvious from the 1st Qtr that Wentz was completely lost.

My point being the counter argument to those who said, not on here, that Ron doesn't need to know the implications of other games, that the situation dictated a shorter leash fo Wentz[/QUOTE]



For the people who say he doesn’t need to know the implications of the game well I guarantee you every other HC who was fighting for the playoffs yesterday was fully aware of every scenario because they pay attention to detail. If I hire a realtor they better damn well be aware of comps in my area and not just focused on doing the deal. Of course you pull Wentz when he was shitting the bed. Ron definitely was thinking let me get a full look at Carson and than think about next week.
He has done much worse, like his personnel decisions, but the whole thing just screams of incompetence. Like someone else mentioned on here - JDR is fully in charge of the D, and Turner is fully in charge of the O. Ron absolutely failed playing GM. His team always comes out flat for games, and in the second half so his motivational skills are clearly sub par. He has blamed others and thrown his own players under the bus so even his pressers are shit. I mean wtf does this guy actually do well besides lose? He is just there getting paid and it is a straight joke at this point. If he had any semblance of pride he would walk away. We will never, ever, win with him at the helm. He should give Cam Newton half his paychecks because he wouldn’t even be collecting them without him.

Re: Ron Rivera
 

[quote=punch it in;1334761]For the people who say he doesn’t need to know the implications of the game well I guarantee you every other HC who was fighting for the playoffs yesterday was fully aware of every scenario because they pay attention to detail. If I hire a realtor they better damn well be aware of comps in my area and not just focused on doing the deal. Of course you pull Wentz when he was shitting the bed. Ron definitely was thinking let me get a full look at Carson and than think about next week.
He has done much worse, like his personnel decisions, but the whole thing just screams of incompetence. Like someone else mentioned on here - JDR is fully in charge of the D, and Turner is fully in charge of the O. Ron absolutely failed playing GM. His team always comes out flat for games, and in the second half so his motivational skills are clearly sub par. He has blamed others and thrown his own players under the bus so even his pressers are shit. I mean wtf does this guy actually do well besides lose? He is just there getting paid and it is a straight joke at this point. If he had any semblance of pride he would walk away. We will never, ever, win with him at the helm. He should give Cam Newton half his paychecks because he wouldn’t even be collecting them without him.[/quote]

100% The truth! Cam Newton is the only fucking reason that loser even got to a SB! And in Ron Rivera fashion his team came out flat and got their ass kicked in that game too.

There is a reason why the Panthers let him go.. They knew he was a loser.

At the end of the day just because people are nice doesn't mean they are good at their jobs.. He's a bottom 5 HC in the NFL

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2022 Washington Commanders Head Coach 7-8-1 0-0
2021 Washington Football Team Head Coach 7-10-0 0-0
2020 Washington Football Team Head Coach 7-9-0 0-1
2019 Carolina Panthers Head Coach 5-7-0 0-0
2018 Carolina Panthers Head Coach 7-9-0 0-0
2017 Carolina Panthers Head Coach 11-5-0 0-1
2016 Carolina Panthers Head Coach 6-10-0 0-0
2015 Carolina Panthers Head Coach 15-1-0 2-1
2014 Carolina Panthers Head Coach 7-8-1 1-1
2013 Carolina Panthers Head Coach 12-4-0 0-1
2012 Carolina Panthers Head Coach 7-9-0 0-0
2011 Carolina Panthers Head Coach 6-10-0 0-0


He's had 3 Good seasons THREE out of 12!

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I'd like the next HC presser for someone to play back his quote "it is not how you start but how you finish" and ask him about the regression. We actually started out better than we finished.

Re: Ron Rivera
 

[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1334768]I'd like the next HC presser for someone to play back his quote "it is not how you start but how you finish" and ask him about the regression. We actually started out better than we finished.[/quote]

He will have 3 straight 7 win seasons which is so proof that he is mediocre at best. He will win some games that we think we will lose but he will also lose more games that we should win like yesterday