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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1278112]This franchise is barely one year removed from being THE most dysfunctional organization and the laughing stock of the NFL. While it is possible the organization in the process of turning a corner, there's still a lot of question marks with Snyder and his antics over the years, ownership questions, sexual harrassment claims, the cheerleader debacle, TW, no name, etc. I don't see this team as one of the top destinations for free agents. Maybe next year, if they are able to build on last year's successes (and Snyder doesn't draft another QB) players will look at it as a desirable destination, but I don't think we're there yet.[/quote]

The Jets have been a shit show for the past couple of seasons as well, yet they still garner attention for some reason.

I definitely agree with your points above, I just don't get how a team like the Jets all of the sudden is a hot commodity.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1278090]off season threads are brutal.[/quote]


Yep.

But I still read 'em.

Even the long ass unabomber styled manifesto posts.

:laughing2

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1278121]

Even the long ass unabomber styled manifesto posts. [/quote]


Haha! That was rather funny.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

Hot take. Texans and Seahawks are going to trade Watson and Wilson straight up. Fresh start. Win win.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1278123]Hot take. Texans and Seahawks are going to trade Watson and Wilson straight up. Fresh start. Win win.[/quote]


Actually, Seattle would crush with that trade ... Wilson is 6 or 7 years older than Watson.

Watson throwing to D K Metcalf .... dayum. D K would jump into the top 3 WR's in the league.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1278124]Actually, Seattle would crush with that trade ... Wilson is 6 or 7 years older than Watson.

Watson throwing to D K Metcalf .... dayum. D K would jump into the top 3 WR's in the league.[/quote]

True fact. Wilson and a 3rd for Watson. But then Wilson would be salty he didn’t get valued as an equal in the trade and then refuses to suit up.

Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1278118]The Jets have been a shit show for the past couple of seasons as well, yet they still garner attention for some reason.

I definitely agree with your points above, I just don't get how a team like the Jets all of the sudden is a hot commodity.[/quote]

Players love NYC baby. One of most fun and glamorous cities in America.

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Jets Garner attention by media in absurd trade proposals, and have overpaid some FAs horrifically, agents influence media and mention jets hoping they can get them to pay out another stupid deal.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1278099]Maybe but even Watson's camp never mentioned us.. Young team with a bunch of upside, great staff. They are missing out[/quote]

No they aren't. We are a mediocre team at best right now. We beat one winning team squeaked into playoffs with losing record, got soundly beaten, and still have one of 3 worst owners in NFL. The expectation of league insiders is that in 2 years or so Snyder will revert to his mean (standard or typical) behavior. Only Homer fans are oblivious to how Snyder and the Skins are viewed by the league insiders. It would take at least five years for any hope of this stigma going away. People thinking of coming here get on the phone with Shannys, Gruden, Williams, etc., and hear the real story of what actually goes on here. The basic approach of the best players is, why chance it? I can go to a team without a turd owner, why take the chance that Redskins remain what they have always been under Snyder, and be stuck there 4 years+? There are at least a dozen well-run teams in league with NONE of the myriad dysfunction has plagued Skins every level, they are much sounder choices than us. I wish that weren't the reality, but it is. We are at least one more year, maybe 2, from being free and clear of the bad decisions of past regimes, especially the horrible Smith contract and dead money thereof. Maybe the league strips Skins of draft picks after Snyder investigation? Etc.

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[quote=Scalper;1278130]No they aren't. We are a mediocre team at best right now. We beat one winning team squeaked into playoffs with losing record, got soundly beaten, and still have one of 3 worst owners in NFL. The expectation of league insiders is that in 2 years or so Snyder will revert to his mean (standard or typical) behavior. Only Homer fans are oblivious to how Snyder and the Skins are viewed by the league insiders. It would take at least five years for any hope of this stigma going away. People thinking of coming here get on the phone with Shannys, Gruden, Williams, etc., and hear the real story of what actually goes on here. The basic approach of the best players is, why chance it? I can go to a team without a turd owner, why take the chance that Redskins remain what they have always been under Snyder, and be stuck there 4 years+? There are at least a dozen well-run teams in league with NONE of the myriad dysfunction has plagued Skins every level, they are much sounder choices than us. I wish that weren't the reality, but it is. We are at least one more year, maybe 2, from being free and clear of the bad decisions of past regimes, especially the horrible Smith contract and dead money thereof. Maybe the league strips Skins of draft picks after Snyder investigation? Etc.[/quote]

WaY tO gO nEgAtIvE nAnCY

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1278105]That is silly, Cam in his prime was a forerunner of the dynamic qb style. I do think the lack of desire to come here has to do with Snyder, the TW situation, and not knowing if it really is a new day in our FO.

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Cam is definitely all those things yet in the 9 years RR had one of the best QBs in the league he only made the playoffs 4 times and 2 of those were one and done. Cam came along about 10 years too early. Had Cam come along now with coaches who know how to scheme and game plan for the skill set a dynamic QB like Cam brings to the table it would be Mahommes only 2 inches and 15 lbs heavier.

I do agree DS also plays a role in players hesitating to come here. Even if a QB wanted to come here and play, with how unstable this organization has been it seems like a gamble these QBs aren't willing to take.

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If you don't think this team is on the rise then you will never be satisfied... The youth and star power on the defense alone has everyone around the league/media talking

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[quote=Scalper;1278130]No they aren't. We are a mediocre team at best right now. We beat one winning team squeaked into playoffs with losing record, got soundly beaten, and still have one of 3 worst owners in NFL. The expectation of league insiders is that in 2 years or so Snyder will revert to his mean (standard or typical) behavior. Only Homer fans are oblivious to how Snyder and the Skins are viewed by the league insiders. It would take at least five years for any hope of this stigma going away. People thinking of coming here get on the phone with Shannys, Gruden, Williams, etc., and hear the real story of what actually goes on here. The basic approach of the best players is, why chance it? I can go to a team without a turd owner, why take the chance that Redskins remain what they have always been under Snyder, and be stuck there 4 years+? There are at least a dozen well-run teams in league with NONE of the myriad dysfunction has plagued Skins every level, they are much sounder choices than us. I wish that weren't the reality, but it is. We are at least one more year, maybe 2, from being free and clear of the bad decisions of past regimes, especially the horrible Smith contract and dead money thereof. Maybe the league strips Skins of draft picks after Snyder investigation? Etc.[/quote]

^^This.

This is a mediocre team at best but since they made the playoff everyone seems to forget that this team really wasn't very good. I know its early for 2021 predictions but if this team gets to 7-9 it will be another "successful" season.

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[quote=irish;1278139]^^This.

This is a mediocre team at best but since they made the playoff everyone seems to forget that this team really wasn't very good. I know its early for 2021 predictions but if this team gets to 7-9 it will be another "successful" season.[/quote]

They were 5-1 with a one legged old Alex Smith... The reason they sucked in the beginning was 100% all on Haskins. Also they swept Dallas and Philly and deserved the division. Yeah it sucked but someone had to win it and they did, it's like our fanbase will never be satisfied even after YEARS of suck, I'm happy as hell to make the playoffs.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1278141]They were 5-1 with a one legged old Alex Smith... The reason they sucked in the beginning was 100% all on Haskins. Also they swept Dallas and Philly and deserved the division. Yeah it sucked but someone had to win it and they did, it's like our fanbase will never be satisfied even after YEARS of suck, I'm happy as hell to make the playoffs.[/quote]

It's going to take a little more sustained success to win everyone over. I get the hesitation by some, but at the same time there are a lot of positive things to build on no doubt.