Should the Redskins make a run at Brady Quinn?
 

Why not?

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???

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He's good!!! That's why

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Are you trying to set a record for most threads started?

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[quote=0421kidwell;233966]Why not?[/quote]What would we trade for the first overall pick? Our first rounders in 2007, 2008, and 2009? And then what happens to Campbell, who projects very well as an NFL QB (even better than Quinn, who also projects well)?

That'd be a disaster. As long as he doesn't land in the division (i.e. Dallas), I'm happy.

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Yes I Am!! Is That A Problem

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Here's my opinion. No they shouldn't. 2007 start Campbell, let Brunell go (I believe they save money that way) and bring on a veteran who can play not named Collins. I don't know who's out there off hand but I don't think we benefit from having 2 QBs with no real NFL experience

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oh so now were bowing out......no 10 game run, from anyone, and we comeback and make the playoffs and win the superbowl,...... Matty where are you?...no MB peep talk, now were talking QB's.......wow, who would ever think :doh:

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Im not sold on Brady Quinn yet.

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:doh::stop:

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[quote=GTripp0012;233974]What would we trade for the first overall pick? Our first rounders in 2007, 2008, and 2009? And then what happens to Campbell, who projects very well as an NFL QB (even better than Quinn, who also projects well)?

That'd be a disaster. As long as he doesn't land in the division (i.e. Dallas), I'm happy.[/quote]
How does Campbell project better?

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I think the Raiders are going to hold on to the first overall pick (and therefore Quinn) like grim death, which is breathing down Al Davis' neck.

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[quote=Rexi;234000]How does Campbell project better?[/quote]
Theres an article written in the Pro Football Prospectus 2006 that has a good track record of projecting QBs based on their college stats, based on using Games Started and Completion %, and high numbers of both seem to correlate to success in the NFL. Campbell's projection is off the charts. Your boy, Alex Smith, fares pretty well by it too.

Quinns a 4 year starter for a major program in which his career completion % will hover around 60% at the end of the season. That's good for the system.

It has been wrong before. But in general, if you suck (a term used loosely, cause of the hype factor) in college, like Kyle Boller, who vastly outplayed his projection, you won't be much in the NFL.

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I assumed he is implying we lose out to try to get a top 5 pick, which I think is ridiculous.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;234002]I think the Raiders are going to hold on to the first overall pick (and therefore Quinn) like grim death, which is breathing down Al Davis' neck.[/quote]I also think that if the Raiders get the first pick, they will wait to use it on draft day until any chance of drafting a player who helps the franchise is gone.

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[quote=GTripp0012;234006]Theres an article written in the Pro Football Prospectus 2006 that has a good track record of projecting QBs based on their college stats, based on using Games Started and Completion %, and high numbers of both seem to correlate to success in the NFL. Campbell's projection is off the charts. Your boy, Alex Smith, fares pretty well by it too.

Quinns a 4 year starter for a major program in which his career completion % will hover around 60% at the end of the season. That's good for the system.

It has been wrong before. But in general, if you suck (a term used loosely, cause of the hype factor) in college, like Kyle Boller, who vastly outplayed his projection, you won't be much in the NFL.[/quote]Oh okay. I think I may have read part of that a while ago.

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I dont think we're trying to lose out, but the possibility is there.

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[quote=Daseal;234014]I dont think we're trying to lose out, but the possibility is there.[/quote]
Who would you guys want if you got the first pick? The big three really don't fit any of your needs.

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[QUOTE=Rexi;234017]Who would you guys want if you got the first pick? The big three really don't fit any of your needs.[/QUOTE]

Hopefully we'd trade down for more picks.

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Doesnt Denver already have our 1st pick?

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[QUOTE=0421kidwell;233966]Why not?[/QUOTE]

because we gave up a butt load of draft picks for a certain jason campbell, who will be starting next year

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[QUOTE=x44x;234022]Doesnt Denver already have our 1st pick?[/QUOTE]

no, they got our last year's pick

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Sure, I feel like waiting three years to cut the next Rick Mirer.

This team needs a veteran QB.

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[quote=BMF21;233987]oh so now were bowing out......no 10 game run, from anyone, and we comeback and make the playoffs and win the superbowl,...... Matty where are you?...no MB peep talk, now were talking QB's.......wow, who would ever think :doh:[/quote]

I've been all over the board about the QB talk... do I need to respond to every QB thread? :)

Hey newbie, welcome to the board, but I suggest you take a look around before starting so many new threads. A lot of this has already been discussed and the Warpath Gods don't appreciate talking about the same things over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again.

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the only way the skins make a run at Quinn is if Jason Campbell gets some significant playing time this year. and proves he doesn't belong in this league. thats what i think is going to happen to tony romo

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421kidwell are you unaware that we have our future quarterback on the roster right now, and he's been riding the bench the last 1 and a half seasons waiting for his turn to show us what he has? Don't you think we should see what he's got before we start looking at other quarterbacks?

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Listen i think Quinn going to be a very good qb. I think he played alot better than Campbell in college. But we already invested so much in Campbell we have to know if this guy can play. That why Campbell should be playing now so we know who to draft next year. We should have never drafted Campbell in the first place we had alot more important needs to fill instead of trading all of those picks for a QB that was rated to go to the third round or late second. But typical of the skins{GIBBS<LITTLE DANNY>} Trading away extra picks {ROCKY,LLOYD,PORTIS,CAMPBELL,}.

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Not sure if anyone heard Pastabelly on ESPN radio today, but fatboy said he heard from his 'trusted' sources within the organization that JC will get the nod sooner rather than later. Which should make this a mute point.

Besides, our obvious need is at DB and DE, not QB.

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our need are everywhere unfortually that means more FA spending like it going out of style since we have no Finnng pick next year again.

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[quote=x44x;234022]Doesnt Denver already have our 1st pick?[/quote]

i think we swap 1st round picks with them if we end up with a worse record than they do and its between picks 20-30 . atleast thats what i was told here a few days ago.. though i have no link of that trade. if anyone does please post the link breaking down that deal.

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brady quinn cant take a hit for shit, he wont last 2 seasons in the nfl

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Hell No! Hail From Mcusa!

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At this rate, we'll have a #3 or 4 pick and could pick up Brady. Keep in mind we are only 1 win away from being the worst team in football.

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Why not take Calvin Johnson from GT? I mean he's 6'5'' ,240 lbs, and runs a sub 4.4 40. He and JC could become the next great QB/WR tandem in the league! WHY NOT?! HAIL from MCUSA!

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[quote=Crat92;234121]Why not take Calvin Johnson from GT? I mean he's 6'5'' ,240 lbs, and runs a sub 4.4 40. He and JC could become the next great QB/WR tandem in the league! WHY NOT?! HAIL from MCUSA![/quote]

We need another receiver about as much as we need Bruce Smith back. Now, given that we have the worst front office in football, that is exactly what we will do.

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[QUOTE=Daseal;233994]Im not sold on Brady Quinn yet.[/QUOTE]

Took the words right out of my mouth!

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[quote=GTripp0012;234006]Theres an article written in the Pro Football Prospectus 2006 that has a good track record of projecting QBs based on their college stats, based on using Games Started and Completion %, and high numbers of both seem to correlate to success in the NFL. Campbell's projection is off the charts. Your boy, Alex Smith, fares pretty well by it too.

Quinns a 4 year starter for a major program in which his career completion % will hover around 60% at the end of the season. That's good for the system.

It has been wrong before. But in general, if you suck (a term used loosely, cause of the hype factor) in college, like Kyle Boller, who vastly outplayed his projection, you won't be much in the NFL.[/quote]

you're hanging your hat too much on that article. that article projects kyle boller as the best NFL QB EVER, so it's a bit flawed. i believe campbell will probably be above average, but probably not mcnabb like.

brady quinn projects better, but he isn't all that tough and he's erratic (like eli manning). sometimes he just forgets all the rules about technique and justs plays awful... but he usually turns it around within the same game.

I think if jarret or johnson declare early, they're actually safer picks. Either way, quinn is probably a raider, and i don't think we'll be able to trade up that high (it gets really expensive) and take that big a contract for yet another QB if we can't at least see what the last QB we traded up and drafted can do for us :P.

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[quote=Crat92;234121]Why not take Calvin Johnson from GT? I mean he's 6'5'' ,240 lbs, and runs a sub 4.4 40. He and JC could become the next great QB/WR tandem in the league! WHY NOT?! HAIL from MCUSA![/quote]

he's got football speed, but his last timed 40s were in the 4.55 range.

and you don't need to add hail from mcusa on every damned post. it's just annoying.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;234142]We need another receiver about as much as we need Bruce Smith back. Now, given that we have the worst front office in football, that is exactly what we will do.[/quote]

that's true, and we don't need adrian peterson either. but the top 5 (if 4 underclassmen declare) could be a QB, a RB, and 3 WRs. calvin johnson may very well be the best talent in the entire draft. either way, that'd be 3 positions we're hopefully okay at... but until we see campbell we can't know. Best talent available does have it's merits though, if you can get good baseline talent with cheap/vet min FA signings. Johnson could be TO+ with a great work ethic and team attitude.

cb is looking a bit weak. there's a GW type corner (6'1" 195) up near the top and some DEs and a DT... more depth at OL and LB though. posluszny (OLB) would be a fairly safe pick in the top 10 range...

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No. Trade down (if possible). If not, go for best available (within reason).