B. Lloyd Makes Interesting Comments
 

After reading this article, I really want to believe that some of his quotes were taken out of context. You be the judge.


[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/06/AR2006120601542.html]Gibbs Says Lloyd Will Play Sunday - washingtonpost.com[/url]

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How about saying this. " I can't do that again. I really hurt the team and I will never take my helmet off and throw it ever again." LLoyd is really starting to get on my nerves. It just shows a total lack of respect. If I were Gibbs I would sit his ass down next week. You don't see Cooley, ARE, Thrash or Moss doing that crap do you?

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Honestly,

I dont mind it. The only part that bothers me about it is that it might give the wrong message to Jason Campbell. I'm frustrated as hell with this season, shouldnt Lloydd be too? Shouldnt all these guys be? I like a guy with a little bit of fire behind him.

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[quote=Gmanc711;256871]Honestly,

I dont mind it. The only part that bothers me about it is that it might give the wrong message to Jason Campbell. I'm frustrated as hell with this season, shouldnt Lloydd be too? Shouldnt all these guys be? I like a guy with a little bit of fire behind him.[/quote]

Nothing wrong with some fire, but you can't be showing up your teammates. Lloyd says that wasn't his intention but still, it was obviously enough of an issue to have Gibbs concerned.

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Wow, the Skins definitely need to make Lloyd a captain, just kidding. I'm really bothered by the fact that he said "anything can happen," in regards to whether this incident could repeat itself in the future, and that he's going to "do his best" not to let it happen again. I'm pretty sure that all players try their best not to let that happen, it's part of being a professional. He's already done it once and I agree with skinsfan69 in that he "can't" do it again. If he throws his helmet or explodes on the sideline one more time, he's definitely going to fall even farther out of favor with the coaches, the players, and the fans. If he was producing, then maybe it wouldn't be as bad, but well, he's not.
In addition, if Gibbs is so concerned about having "character guys" on his team, then why did he sign Lloyd in the first place? According to the article he was disliked in SF and the Redskin players knew about it. Did the coaches just decide to ignore this information and sign a TO junior to our team, what gives?

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I don't care at all. The entire team should be mad. They go out there and show no emotion and when someone does everyone is on his ass. I can't say I would not have done the same thing.

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not mad at him at all. i like that he has shown that he cares

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[quote=Big C;256877]not mad at him at all. i like that he has shown that he cares[/quote]

Cares about what is the question.

The guy has shown to be selfish in the past, we'd better really hope he doesn't pout his way outta here like he did in SF.

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I started laughing when I read this:

[B]I have an attitude that's really good for a winning team. It is," said Lloyd, whose teams are 10-31 in the 41 games he has started in the NFL, and have never finished at or above .500[/B]

All the Rexi bashers may have their tail between their legs on this one. We'll see what the future has in store...

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Overall, not overly concerned except for his comments about Rattay. He seemed, unless I'm mistaken, to openly admit that he quit on the Niners when they traded Rattay.

I mean we're talking about Tim Rattay and he's going to get all worked up over that? He should be focused on building a winning team with the guys who are out there with him, not pining for Rattay. Tim Rattay? Seriously?

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[quote=RobH4413;256885]I started laughing when I read this:

[B]I have an attitude that's really good for a winning team. It is," said Lloyd, whose teams are 10-31 in the 41 games he has started in the NFL, and have never finished at or above .500[/B]

All the Rexi bashers may have their tail between their legs on this one. We'll see what the future has in store...[/quote]

Isn't he basically saying that his attitude sucks for a losing team then?

Scary stuff.

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If i was lloyd id be pretty pissed too. He is not getting very many balls thrown to him when he is a good reciever. He was upset that the team threw the game away the way it did, hey i was too. Hes just one of those people that does not know when to shut up.

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Quite frankly he sounds very immature. I'd expect something like my little brother to say those things. (now that I think about it, my brother never would say those things).

Growing up being told your amazing at everything does something to your ego. When people tell you how awesome you are, it goes strait to your head. You start blabbing stuff out like a 5 year old... but don't take my word for it:

[B]"I've had this personality since I was about 5 years old. And if I ever thought it was a problem, I would have changed it. I'm okay with this kind of attention. So if I thought it was a problem, I would have changed it 20 years ago."[/B]

:doh:

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[quote=RobH4413;256906]Quite frankly he sounds very immature. I'd expect something like my little brother to say those things. (now that I think about it, my brother never would say those things).

Growing up being told your amazing at everything does something to your ego. When people tell you how awesome you are, it goes strait to your head. You start blabbing stuff out like a 5 year old... but don't take my word for it:

[B]"I've had this personality since I was about 5 years old. And if I ever thought it was a problem, I would have changed it. I'm okay with this kind of attention. So if I thought it was a problem, I would have changed it 20 years ago."[/B]

:doh:[/quote]

I think what he was trying to say here is that he is not going to change his attitude becuase we saw a bad side of it no matter what light it is shown in.

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[quote=Gmanc711;256871]Honestly,

I dont mind it. The only part that bothers me about it is that it might give the wrong message to Jason Campbell. I'm frustrated as hell with this season, shouldnt Lloydd be too? Shouldnt all these guys be? I like a guy with a little bit of fire behind him.[/quote]

I think players need to be emotional and get angry when they don't execute on the field/lose badly. I don't think that is the issue. The thing about Lloyd is he isn't the clutch guy or character guy you can rally behind when he acts out. I don't think hes shaken the ghosts of SF yet and his comments (about Rattay) certainly isn't helping his cause. I'm worried he will destabilize the teams already low moral further.

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We are a long long way from "B. Lloyd, I'm starting to like this guy" huh? I still can't quite fathom the way things have turned out for this team.

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[quote=Redskin;256908]I think what he was trying to say here is that he is not going to change his attitude becuase we saw a bad side of it no matter what light it is shown in.[/quote]
So he's still is going to throw his helmet for a penalty when he's frustrated?

I don't want that on my team. Don't underestimate the importance of chemistry in the NFL. It's crucial, and if a player is threatening that, than he doesn't belong on the team. We may need to seriously evaluate whether or not it's in our best interest to keep him on the squad for next year.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not giving up on Lloyd yet, but he needs a change in attitude ASAP. I'm hoping someone like Moss or Portis will sit down with him and try to talk man to man with him, mabye give him some much needed perspective. I know it was just yesterday I was defending him, but these latest comments have irked me.

Players, especially mediocre ones, need to keep their mouths shut, and emotions under control. I'm not the least bit sympathetic for someone making more money than I'll probably ever see to play a game.

Hey Brandon : Less talkie, more catchie.

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Seems to me that this is being blown way out of proportion. Yeah, he got a penalty that cost us the team, but I don't care. I'd rather see this type of emotion after a game has been lost than the regular "yeah, that's just the way it goes" crap that just about every other player on the team conveys.

I don't think he is that selfish. I believe that he wants to win more than anything, and I respect that. Remember the Portis TD earlier in the season where he made a good block the secure the edge for Portis and then went crazy because they scored?

If throwing a helmet is a sin, then go crucify Cooley, too. He broke one earlier in the season that the equipment staff had repair during a game. The only difference is that he was outside of the white lines when it happened.

The bottom line for me is that I like seeing some fire from any player that wants to explode during a year such as this. To me, it shows desire.

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I'm just going to keep my mouth shut. My mind is made up about Lloyd, I just hope I'm proven wrong.

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[quote=RobH4413;256906]Quite frankly he sounds very immature. I'd expect something like my little brother to say those things. (now that I think about it, my brother never would say those things).

Growing up being told your amazing at everything does something to your ego. When people tell you how awesome you are, it goes strait to your head. You start blabbing stuff out like a 5 year old... but don't take my word for it:

[B]"I've had this personality since I was about 5 years old. And if I ever thought it was a problem, I would have changed it. I'm okay with this kind of attention. So if I thought it was a problem, I would have changed it 20 years ago."[/B]

:doh:[/quote]

Without a doubt he's immature.

I can't believe some people are buying this as him caring about winning.

He's no different than a 2 year old throwing a temper tantrum.

While I don't think this situation is a huge deal, but it's definitely something worth keeping an eye on down the road. Something to stick in your back pocket if you will.

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And another thing, when Gibbs sat down with him I'm sure the first thing he said to him wasn't, "Brandon, I'm really concerned about your passion for winning".

:rolleyes:

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I really don't give a shit what the first thing Gibbs said to him was. I think it's funny that the reporter threw the W-L record out there of Brandon Lloyd's teams...as though WRs win football games. He should be frustrated, Moss should be frustrated, ARE, Campbell, Betts, the o line, the defense, and the whole fucking organization should be frustrated. They spent all that money just to suck again! Who disagrees with the guys who said they'd finish last in the division now? I don't know what the hell is wrong with the this team/organization. I don't pretend to, but the problem wasn't Lloyd tossing his helmet after they had lost the ball and the game was over, short of a kneel down. It's a little bit bigger than that. It's not Brandon Lloyd's fault they're losing games and he's not a cancer. He goes out and plays hard. He threw a great block for Cooley last week on the td and got downfield to make a block this week. The guy plays with heart and he gets pissed when they lose...GOOD! They all should be pissed when they lose. They shouldn't have this bs, "The ball didn't bounce our way, but they fought their guts out." Hey...NEWS FLASH...losing is NOT okay. Something needs to change...and it needs to change soon!

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;256940]And another thing, when Gibbs sat down with him I'm sure the first thing he said to him wasn't, "Brandon, I'm really concerned about your passion for winning".

:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Damn that's funny. I've edited it down for my sig.

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The only reason I'm not worried is that Gibbs won't tolerate it if it becomes a problem. Unlike in San Fran, Lloyd won't get the opportunity to "play for himself" - Gibbs will bench him.

It's probably the kind of venting that the whole team feels, but nobody is saying. If he can direct the fire to the field, then so what. However, that remains to be seen. He's played decently, but hasn't been asked (or given the chance) to carry too heavy a load yet.

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[quote=TAFKAS;256945]Damn that's funny. I've edited it down for my sig.[/quote]

For context, you might want to say "The first thing Gibbs said to Lloyd..."

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One decent thing about this is that Gibbs is proactive about trying to retain Lloyd. He's not turning his back on him nor labeling him as a malcontent. Sometimes guys need a reality check, Gibbs sat him down and gave him one ( I guess). We'll know soon enough if this meeting was beneficial for the Redskins or a waste of time and reseources.

PS: TAFKAS, that figures you'd swap your no-name sig sponsor for a marquee name like Mattyk72. Sell-out!

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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan;256949]One decent thing about this is that Gibbs is proactive about trying to retain Lloyd. He's not turning his back on him nor labeling him as a malcontent. Sometimes guys need a reality check, Gibbs sat him down and gave him one ( I guess). We'll know soon enough if this meeting was beneficial for the Redskins or a waste of time and reseources.

PS: TAFKAS, that figures you'd swap your no-name sig sponsor for a marquee name like Mattyk72. Sell-out![/QUOTE]

That's a good point. If Gibbs told him never to do that again and then he goes out and does it anyway. Then I'll be upset, but being frustrated about losing a football game doesn't make me think he's not worth having on the team/make him a bad teammate.

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Loyd doesn't seem like much of a football player to me. He's a guy know to make the spectacular catch but drop the routine one. Sound familiar? Like a #87 1st rnd. pick out of Clemson? actually, he hasn't had enough of a career to even compete w/50-50 yet.
For all of his flash, S Moss is still a football player. He takes the hits & gets up, tries to get extra yards & has never shown signs of giving up.
Loyd has yet to exhibit any of those qualities. Maybe he & AA will serve as examples for next year; if you don't perform you'll get benched.

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People are hyping B. Lloyd's comments too hard. He basically said he is frustrated that he and the team aren't performing. He wanted to make the playoffs and it doesn't look like it's going to happen. Plus he likes to have fun on the field and that's what football is suppose to be.... fun!

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[QUOTE=Waleo;256965]People are hyping B. Lloyd's comments too hard. He basically said he is frustrated that he and the team aren't performing. He wanted to make the playoffs and it doesn't look like it's going to happen. Plus he likes to have fun on the field and that's what football is suppose to be.... fun![/QUOTE]

Welcome to the board! Nice blog

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After reading that article in the Post this morning, it's difficult for me to believe Gibbs has taken to the kind of resolve he has in dealing with Brandon Lloyd. I say this because when one takes into total contex all the things he has said in defense of himself, none of it makes any sense. What he said only leads me to believe that at some point in time he will do the same thing again. He never mentioned he has apologized to his teamates or coaches, rather left me with the impression he's entitled to this kind of behavior.
His being frustrated about how things have been going is reasonable, but his behavior is not. I haven't seen any other player react that way, and I'm sure they're all frustrated as well. I firmly believe Gibbs should have taken a harder line with this guy because his overall attitude leads me to believe we've not seen the last of this kind of behavior from Lloyd.

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Lloyd just sounds like a moron whenever he speaks. He might not have that bad of intentions, but he is incapable of sharing his feelings without sounding like an ignorant dumbass. It would be better if he just kept his mouth shut before he embaresses himself further. However, I agree we don't go downfield to him enough.

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[quote=The Zimmermans;256972]Lloyd just sounds like a moron whenever he speaks. He might not have that bad of intentions, but he is incapable of sharing his feelings without sounding like an ignorant dumbass. It would be better if he just kept his mouth shut before he embaresses himself further. However, I agree we don't go downfield to him enough.[/quote]

They interviewed he & Rogers at a Wizards game the week after we beat Dallas & Loyd was fairly well spoken. He said that Gibbs told all the new guys that the fans want to beat Dallas more than anything. He was much more articulate than Rogers, but I also got a sense that he was saying the right things to please the audience. That's whats scary about his comments to the post, he's smart enough to know what to say, but he doesn't actually say it, instead almost saying that he'll do it again.
We've tried going downfield to him more as the season's gone on, but I've yet to see him get more than a half-step of separation past a cb in man on man coverage, even the one he dropped in Tampa.

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yeah, he doesn't get much separation, but he can go up and get the ball, we just need to throw the ball near him and put some air under it.

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[QUOTE=Redskin;256908]I think what he was trying to say here is that he is not going to change his attitude becuase we saw a bad side of it no matter what light it is shown in.[/QUOTE]

Nothing is better than a person unwilling to change...that's a recipe for success.

Especially when the guy who won't change is 10-41 over his career.

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hmmmmm sounds like hes a jackass....grow up brandon....

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It is funny as Hell most people on the board get pissed because of the broad information on the teams troubles, no one seems to care, no emotion. Yeah it was a stupid penalty, but at what time do you just explode, is 4-8 record in a game that has your last slim chance for playoffs. What can you do to show emotion without someone taking it out of context that your selfish not a team player get rid of you?

Maybe go over to the sidelines and let a major fart to blow off steam, but it has to be a silent one because if another player hears it and gets offended a reporter will tell you he was pissed off and intentionally farted on J. Campbell and messing up team chemistry.

Maybe he can be so I am so pissed off that can just go off and say here are the problems, then he has to apoligize after each comment. Jansen missed blocks all day, I'm sorry Jansen, Campbell threw a costly interception and made a dumb mistake, cost us the game, but I am so so sorry, just pissed.

How in the hell can someone say the team needs to show some emotion when if you say anything bad at all it gets blown out of context. When is someone going to grab someone on the field and say what the hell was that dumb ass play, you missed the tackle don't do the shit again. Who cares if everyone sees it. It's an emotional game and a violent game, so he threw a helmet who gives a crap.

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[quote=skins052bgr8;257217]It is funny as Hell most people on the board get pissed because of the broad information on the teams troubles, no one seems to care, no emotion. Yeah it was a stupid penalty, but at what time do you just explode, is 4-8 record in a game that has your last slim chance for playoffs. What can you do to show emotion without someone taking it out of context that your selfish not a team player get rid of you?

Maybe go over to the sidelines and let a major fart to blow off steam, but it has to be a silent one because if another player hears it and gets offended a reporter will tell you he was pissed off and intentionally farted on J. Campbell and messing up team chemistry.

Maybe he can be so I am so pissed off that can just go off and say here are the problems, then he has to apoligize after each comment. Jansen missed blocks all day, I'm sorry Jansen, Campbell threw a costly interception and made a dumb mistake, cost us the game, but I am so so sorry, just pissed.

How in the hell can someone say the team needs to show some emotion when if you say anything bad at all it gets blown out of context. When is someone going to grab someone on the field and say what the hell was that dumb ass play, you missed the tackle don't do the shit again. Who cares if everyone sees it. It's an emotional game and a violent game, so he threw a helmet who gives a crap.[/quote]

It's obviously a culmination of things with the helmet tossing incident being the last straw that led to Gibbs sitting down with him. It's not as simple as he tossed his helmet so that's why he's in trouble.

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I guess I was wrong about Lloyd.

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Well, either way, you were wrong about Bryant, the jury's still out on Lloyd.

For all of you pointing out what a professional Santana is, remember that he was tagged with the "bad attitude" label in New York just a few years ago, too.

Given that #81's my personal patron saint of receivers, I'm not much for the guys who talk more than they perform (God bless Chad Johnson, he does both). But I'll give Lloyd another season to find himself, grow up, and gel with the offense and his new QB, before passing ultimate judgement. If he's not putting up big numbers next year, though...