Chris Samuels is having his best year as a Pro
 

The Redskins have not had to give him help this year at all. The opposing right end never has been a factor to date.

A left tackle who goes up against elite pass rushers and nullifying their effect on the game is every coaches dream. Samuels never was this dominant before, but here in his 8th NFL season, I think he's got to be the best LT in the game. I don't even think he has a penalty called on him yet this year.

He's been our best player on either side of the ball this year, and we wouldn't be 3-2 without him. He needs to get a little love because he is singlehandedly (not literally...that would be holding) balancing out the offensive line and keeping it from falling apart.

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I agree. He's is playing really well. Except for the goal-line stand against the Giants, and a couple plays against the Packers, he has been nearly flawless.

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Every year I call him one of the league's most overrated players, but every year I'm reminded of why we need him.

I think that we have to give a lot of credit to Kendall as well. I believe that in past years (and I think Sameuls even admitted this), Samuels had to compensate for the fact that he was playing next to a young lineman in Dockery and had to cover his mistakes as well as handle his own assignments.

With a veteran like Kendall next to him, Samuels doesn't have to worry and can just do his job.

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For a change, I completely agree with you, Tripp. It's unfortunate that his level of play this season has been overshadowed by the rest of the line completely falling apart, outside of Kendall, but it is nice to know that Campbell's blind side is covered.

I think I'm in the minority though, because I've always thought of Samuels as a dominant tackle. Even in seasons where he was hindered by injuries, he's been better than 75% of the other tackles in the league.

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Kendall has been more than solid. What a deal we got with this guy. I mean, how many times has been blown for holding or jumping off sides? I can't remember many, if any at all.

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I've never understood how people underestimate Samuels' importance to this team. Yeah in and year out the guy is just rock freaking solid. He very rarely gets beat, and I don't think he's ever had a bad game start to finish. We would definitely be lost without him and I agree he's having a heck of a year.

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[quote=Mattyk72;365137]I've never understood how people underestimate Samuels' importance to this team. Yeah in and year out the guy is just rock freaking solid. He very rarely gets beat, and I don't think he's ever had a bad game start to finish. We would definitely be lost without him and I agree he's having a heck of a year.[/quote]
I think a lot of it has to do with the nature of his position. He's a soft spoken offensive lineman, and very humble.

He really doesn't get much praise individually, unless the o-line does well as a whole. It's the nature of the beast.

I agree that he's having a hell of a year, and has proven his value and worth day in and day out. Great thread.

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I really hate samuels, At the LT position, 2 or 3 bad plays equals a bad game. he isn't physical enough at the point of attack and lacks killer instinct. I think he is having his best year as a pro this year thanks to dockerys departure, Regardless, I still hate him!

A few weeks ago, we ran a running play to the left side and Samuels blocked his guy and basically stopped in the middle of the gap, Betts ran straight into him. Those are the types of plays we see too often from him, He never finishes a play. for a guy his size and with his talent, he needs to be more physical.

I really really hate him, but he is having a probowl caliber year. Hopefully he can keep up the good work and work on his aggression.

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[quote=jamf;365159]I really hate samuels, At the LT position, 2 or 3 bad plays equals a bad game. he isn't physical enough at the point of attack and lacks killer instinct. I think he is having his best year as a pro this year thanks to dockerys departure, Regardless, I still hate him![/quote]

All I can say it wow...

And Betts runs into blockers all the time. I think it has more to due with his lack of ability to make a cut, than the blockers themselves.

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[quote=jamf;365159]I really hate samuels, At the LT position, 2 or 3 bad plays equals a bad game. he isn't physical enough at the point of attack and lacks killer instinct. I think he is having his best year as a pro this year thanks to dockerys departure, Regardless, I still hate him!

A few weeks ago, we ran a running play to the left side and Samuels blocked his guy and basically stopped in the middle of the gap, Betts ran straight into him. Those are the types of plays we see too often from him, He never finishes a play. for a guy his size and with his talent, he needs to be more physical.

I really really hate him, but he is having a probowl caliber year. Hopefully he can keep up the good work and work on his aggression.[/quote]That is a comment from somebody who clearly doesn't understand the difficulty of playing left tackle against premier pass rushers without TE support. During some of the years that Samuels struggled (particularly under Spurrier), he battled injuries while the Skins were definitely a pass first offense. Aside from Walter Jones, and maybe Orlando Pace, show me a better LT in the NFC over the past 3 years. We are extremely fortunate to have Samuels.

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[quote=Southpaw;365167][B]All I can say it wow...[/B]

And Betts runs into blockers all the time. I think it has more to due with his lack of ability to make a cut, than the blockers themselves.[/quote]

You're being nice, all I can say is dumb.

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[quote=jamf;365159]I really hate samuels, At the LT position, 2 or 3 bad plays equals a bad game. he isn't physical enough at the point of attack and lacks killer instinct. I think he is having his best year as a pro this year thanks to dockerys departure, Regardless, I still hate him!

A few weeks ago, we ran a running play to the left side and Samuels blocked his guy and basically stopped in the middle of the gap, Betts ran straight into him. Those are the types of plays we see too often from him, He never finishes a play. for a guy his size and with his talent, he needs to be more physical.

I really really hate him, but he is having a probowl caliber year. Hopefully he can keep up the good work and work on his aggression.[/quote]

You should be on your knees thanking God for Samuels. He's pretty much the only O-Line starter we have left!

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[quote=GTripp0012;365118]The Redskins have not had to give him help this year at all. The opposing right end never has been a factor to date.

A left tackle who goes up against elite pass rushers and nullifying their effect on the game is every coaches dream. Samuels never was this dominant before, but here in his 8th NFL season, I think he's got to be the best LT in the game. I don't even think he has a penalty called on him yet this year.

He's been our best player on either side of the ball this year, and we wouldn't be 3-2 without him. He needs to get a little love because he is singlehandedly (not literally...that would be holding) balancing out the offensive line and keeping it from falling apart.[/quote]

When he gets beat some fans tend to freak out. But the reality is he might get beat once every other game or so. That means out of 60-70 pass plays he is getting beat once or twice with no help. That is simply outstanding. Samuels is w/out question a top NFL LT and he is the one guy on our line that can not be replaced. There is a reason he gets voted to the Pro Bowl. The guys that go against him know his talent level.

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[quote=jamf;365159]I really hate samuels, At the LT position, 2 or 3 bad plays equals a bad game. he isn't physical enough at the point of attack and lacks killer instinct. I think he is having his best year as a pro this year thanks to dockerys departure, Regardless, I still hate him!

A few weeks ago, we ran a running play to the left side and Samuels blocked his guy and basically stopped in the middle of the gap, Betts ran straight into him. Those are the types of plays we see too often from him, He never finishes a play. for a guy his size and with his talent, he needs to be more physical.

I really really hate him, but he is having a probowl caliber year. Hopefully he can keep up the good work and work on his aggression.[/quote]

You hate him??? WTF is that all about??? Do you really know how tough it is to play LT w/ no help? Do you see JC getting blind sided?? Your comments are just plain silly.

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[QUOTE=SouperMeister;365177]That is a comment from somebody who clearly doesn't understand the difficulty of playing left tackle against premier pass rushers without TE support. During some of the years that Samuels struggled (particularly under Spurrier), he battled injuries while the Skins were definitely a pass first offense. Aside from Walter Jones, and maybe Orlando Pace, show me a better LT in the NFC over the past 3 years. We are extremely fortunate to have Samuels.[/QUOTE]

I've actually played a little LT back in the day( HS Level ;) ).

He is a good passblocker and I did say that he IS have a probowl year.

3rd best tackle in the NFC? Sure, But I wouldn't put him in the class of Walter Jones or Pace( when healthy).

What bothers me about samuels is he never finishes off blocks. He never pancakes defenders. He is as talented as any tackle thats ever played the game but he lacks the aggression to be considered one of the best.

A great tackle to me is a player who is a great pass blocker and road grader type run blocker. Samuels is not a great run blocker in my opinion.
But he could if he learned to play mad!

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;365198]You hate him??? WTF is that all about??? Do you really know how tough it is to play LT w/ no help? Do you see JC getting blind sided?? Your comments are just plain silly.[/QUOTE]

Yes I hate Him!

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[quote=jamf;365212]Yes I hate Him![/quote]

WOW.

Samuels is one of the top-tier LT's in the game and deserves his props. He is a quality character guy and a 'Skin for life.

Don's drink the Hater-Ade now...

lol

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[quote=jamf;365211]What bothers me about samuels is he never finishes off blocks. He never pancakes defenders. He is as talented as any tackle thats ever played the game but he lacks the aggression to be considered one of the best. [/quote]

Samuels' job is to block and keep defenders in front of him and as far away from the play as possible. Who cares if he doesn't pancake a lot of people? Pancake blocks aren't the norm, regardless of what Madden 08 tells you.

Pancakes are overrated anyway, because there's also a chance that the blocker will be taken out of the play as well.

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[quote=Southpaw;365233]Samuels' job is to block and keep defenders in front of him and as far away from the play as possible. Who cares if he doesn't pancake a lot of people? Pancake blocks aren't the norm, regardless of what Madden 08 tells you.

Pancakes are overrated anyway, because there's also a chance that the blocker will be taken out of the play as well.[/quote]Outstanding point. It's not unusual to see Samuels handle his man, then get to the next tier to make a 2nd block on a play. I've never understood fans that get down on him. Would those haters prefer that we had drafted Peter Warrick with the 3rd overall selection that we used to get Samuels?

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Samuels gets into the pro-bowl because players and coaches vote for him. He is a first class LT and I pretty happy he's on our team and you should be too.

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]John Riggens was pretty much ripping on him yesterday. I listened from 530-550pm on Monday and he was saying Samuels technique has really been pretty crappy and he is crossing his legs, something he should never do. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black]I wish I remembered more of the specific plays they blamed him for and the exact mistakes he made but I kinda caught the end of it when I first got into my car. [/COLOR][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black]I haven’t noticed anything good or bad from Samuels this year, which is usually a good thing because I normally only notice bad plays by the O line not good ones. [/COLOR][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black]Anyone see him make a mistakes vs. Greenbay, or listened to Riggo Radio yesterday between 530-6?[/COLOR][/FONT]

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[quote=mlmpetert;365283]John Riggens was pretty much ripping on him yesterday. I listen from 530-550pm on Mondays and he was really saying Samuels technique has been pretty crappy and he is crossing his legs, somthing he should never do.[/quote]

That's funny that Riggins was ripping on Samuels when Todd Wade was getting pushed around all day.

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[quote=Southpaw;365289]That's funny that Riggins was ripping on Samuels when Todd Wade was getting pushed around all day.[/quote]Samuels held KGB, an outstanding edge pass rusher, to 1 tackle (actually an assist) and zero sacks. That was without any help. Our right tackles with occasional assistance allowed Kampman 9 tackles (8 solo) and two sacks. I love Riggo, but calling out Samuels for his solid effort is ridiculous.

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[QUOTE=jamf;365159]I really hate samuels, At the LT position, 2 or 3 bad plays equals a bad game. he isn't physical enough at the point of attack and lacks killer instinct. I think he is having his best year as a pro this year thanks to dockerys departure, Regardless, I still hate him!

A few weeks ago, we ran a running play to the left side and Samuels blocked his guy and basically stopped in the middle of the gap, Betts ran straight into him. Those are the types of plays we see too often from him, He never finishes a play. for a guy his size and with his talent, he needs to be more physical.

I really really hate him, but he is having a probowl caliber year. Hopefully he can keep up the good work and work on his aggression.[/QUOTE]

Are you drunk? Please say you're drunk, because I think we could all just forgive you and move on if you were really, really drunk.

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[quote=mheisig;365315][B]Are you drunk? Please say you're drunk, because I think we could all just forgive you and move on if you were really, really drunk[/B].[/quote]


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........a reply is looming......

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samuels is an obvious pro-bowler again this year as usual. and its nto because of his name. offensive lineman are about the most judged players when it comes to the pro bowl. its not just a popularity contest for them.

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[QUOTE=mheisig;365315]Are you drunk? Please say you're drunk, because I think we could all just forgive you and move on if you were really, really drunk.[/QUOTE]

No.
Riggins probably is, But I'm not...

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I have not been a CS fan in the past.

I thought he was decent, but not as great as he was portrayed.

I have a buddy who is no skins fan, but thought CS was good.

I said to watch everytime Ramsey gets sacked, more often than not there would be samuels Standing with his hands on his hips in the foreground of the picture, as his man was lying on our QB, and not in a brokeback mountain kind of way.

Within two weeks my Mets-Jets buddy saw what I saw and agreed with me.

HOWEVER, in the original spirit of the thread, I do believe he has been having his best year ever.

He is much improved, and finally living up to his reputation.

He has been getting some help, though I noticed this earlier in the year.
Especially during the Miami game, Cooley was over on the left side helping out. Of course, this was CS's first game back.

(Hate is a word that should not be used for people on a normal basis, unless you were previously married to them)


These are my two cents, for what that is worth.

J-Dawg

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I think we can't underestimate the negative impact that the Spurrier regime had on Samuels, both in terms of technique and confidence. We also have to give Buges and company props for really bringing the best out in these guys. If you had told me after 2003 that in a few years Dockery would sign a 50 million contract I would have called your sister an eskimo.

As for Samuels, you know are a good player when the best criticism that people can come up with against you is that you aren't as good as Walter Jones.

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I think Samuels is an outstanding LT. How many of you heard KGB's name during the Packers game? How many of you heard Sameuls' name? Exactly. One sign of a solid LT is when you never hear mention of his name or the name of the great passer he's blocking. I'd agree that Jones, Pace, and Samuels are the three best LTs in the NFC.

jamf, I'm sorry you hate him, but there aren't 5 guys better in the whole league at his position. Like him or not, we're fortunate to have him. I just hope this thread doesn't jinx his health (knocking on wood...)

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Samuals is solid...I think Buges has coached him up well since the Spurrier days when he occasionally got beaten....the fact is....Samuals has really picked it up when everyone else went down...that is a testament to his team first approach.

I like the other point here.
We cannot underestimate the impact Kendall has had.
DAMN, I don't see any dropoff from last year...is the left side actually better that last year with Doc?

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I think last Sunday proved that Rabach is more important than any other lineman. Once he left w/ a groin injury our no-ground-game-solid-protection line became a can't-do-a-fuckin-thing line. Samuels is good but remember he doesn't call out the defensive fronts, doesn't pin the middle of the field and can't really provide any assistance to the pathetic right side of the line. We need Rabach back to have any hope of running the ball, no matter against AZ or NE.

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Samuels, Kendall, Rabach and Fabini keeping us above water up to now. Kendall is a godsend. Samuels performing great and paid for it. Rabach going out in front of 50 tickets worth of family and friends in his Green Bay locale was serious. Hopefully he'll be back immediately, but I think he's looking at a week. Todd Wade got abused by Packer DE Kampman. And Wade outweighs him by 44 lbs. Hopefully Wade and Heyer will be back quick cause we need bodies to make this Superbowl run! GO REDSKINS!!! IN GIBBS WE TRUST!

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[quote=jamf;365212]Yes I hate Him![/quote]

Well it sounds like you have some issues. Did he sleep with your girlfriend or somethiing?

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I'm convinced that it's impossible to ever have a consensus opinion on someone. Hell, there are people out there that don't like The Beatles. At least it seems the majority of fans can appreciate Samuels and what he means to the team.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;365495]I'm convinced that it's impossible to ever have a consensus opinion on someone. Hell, there are people out there that don't like The Beatles. At least it seems the majority of fans can appreciate Samuels and what he means to the team.[/QUOTE]

That's not true, we all loved ade jimoh!

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[quote=Mattyk72;365495]I'm convinced that it's impossible to ever have a consensus opinion on someone. Hell, there are people out there that don't like The Beatles. At least it seems the majority of fans can appreciate Samuels and what he means to the team.[/quote]Maybe thats good? Consensus opinion is a very dangerous thing.

Still, it seems like a near consensus that regardless of what we thought of Samuels in the past, that he's having one of the better years a lineman has ever had here. Sometimes you have to wait 7-8 years for a 1st round pick to reach his peak level of performance and it looks like that's what we have in Samuels now. A LT worthy of the 2nd overall pick in his draft.

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Samuels is having another solid pro-bowl year, he gets paid very well for it too. That play where he hurdled the D guy on the ground to get to the next level and throw another block was sweet.

Good thread idea, gotta show some love for one of the Skins best players!

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[quote=skinsfan69;365490]Well it sounds like you have some issues. Did he sleep with your girlfriend or somethiing?[/quote]


hahaha, i used to use this line all the time, then i was warned........ be careful my friend, be vary careful.....