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paulskinsfan 11-02-2007 09:16 PM

OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
Ok, it used to be that our D blitzed on every other down, if not every down. This season, we sit back and wait for the pick. I for one am ready for some BLITZIN!!!! Especially with a rookie QB. ATTENTION GW:


[SIZE=5]RELEASE DA HOUNDS!!!!![/SIZE]

Warpath 11-03-2007 12:44 AM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
GW plays the zone this season. Im not really sure why or what made him switch but if you notice the Skins D plays the zone all the time now. I hate it. Its not the only reason the Pats torched us but it has alot to do with it. Forget playing off the reciever, man up put the corner on the line to bump the wideout and blitz using anyone and everyone. If after a quarter or two and its not working then go back to the zone. I personally think the D would play so much better in man. Let the safeties split the field and go at it. But yet again I bet they play man.

[QUOTE=paulskinsfan;372741]Ok, it used to be that our D blitzed on every other down, if not every down. This season, we sit back and wait for the pick. I for one am ready for some BLITZIN!!!! Especially with a rookie QB. ATTENTION GW:


[SIZE=5]RELEASE DA HOUNDS!!!!![/SIZE][/QUOTE]

djnemo65 11-03-2007 01:11 AM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
I don't know. I thought we were looking pretty good until we went against what people are calling maybe the best team ever. Don't forget we didn't do a lot to establish field position in that game either.

chrisl4064 11-03-2007 01:41 AM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
i dont think we have the ability to play man to man an entire game with our corners.

Daseal 11-03-2007 02:15 AM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
I like the cover 2, while I'd like to see us mix it up a bit. Besides last game, our D has looked great.

EternalEnigma21 11-03-2007 02:52 AM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
yeah, we've looked pretty good until last week , but id still like to see some more pressure myself...

our front four is okay, but they ain't exactly lights out, and with smoot hurt and rogers out, he's gonna have to start pressuring throws in order to keep guys from popping open after a few seconds...

skinsnut 11-03-2007 09:50 AM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
I'm not so enamored with our defense.
Yes, we played well against teams early in the zone....that only works when you are playing teams that play mistake prone football.
Dropped passes, penalties, bad passes, etc has stopped a lot of those early season drives.

The defense they are currently playing depends on the offense making these sorts of mistakes. Yes, every team makes these mistakes, even the Pats....those are the drives that dont end up in scores....it is not neccesarily that the Skins are playing lights out defense....their defense is pretty predicable right now. I think that is what is bugging us.

There was a time when the Redskins took chances...last year it burned them on D...perhaps GW is just as scared of taking chances as Gibbs.

The time to try blitzing more was last week, especially late.
They were gunna score anyways...why not make them pay or fear that they would get blitzed from any angle....they didn't which it was so easy to pick appart a standard scheme. And if you think a young QB doesn't hasn't been thoroghly coached on how to attach our scheme...you are crazy.

The only thing unpredictable about our defense is the blitz....and we dont do that anymore.

I expect our defensive ranking to slowly decline unless blitzing is significantly increased

Cowell 11-03-2007 10:33 AM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
I don't think we need to significantly increase the blitzing but sending an extra linebacker or Landry every once in a while should be enough to keep their offense on their toes.

MTK 11-03-2007 11:38 AM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
[quote=Warpath;372748][B]GW plays the zone this season. Im not really sure why or what made him switch but if you notice the Skins D plays the zone all the time now.[/B] I hate it. Its not the only reason the Pats torched us but it has alot to do with it. Forget playing off the reciever, man up put the corner on the line to bump the wideout and blitz using anyone and everyone. If after a quarter or two and its not working then go back to the zone. I personally think the D would play so much better in man. Let the safeties split the field and go at it. But yet again I bet they play man.[/quote]

Umm, did you happen to watch any games last year??

Schneed10 11-03-2007 11:44 AM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
I'm amazed that people can criticize our defense at this point in the season. It has been nothing short of spectacular outside of the Patriots game.

I have no idea why you would want to do a single thing differently against any team not from New England.

WTF?

MTK 11-03-2007 11:46 AM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
[quote=Schneed10;372776]I'm amazed that people can criticize our defense at this point in the season. It has been nothing short of spectacular outside of the Patriots game.

I have no idea why you would want to do a single thing differently against any team not from New England.

WTF?[/quote]

Some people are never happy no matter what. Last year it was too much blitzing, this year it's not enough.

Outside of last week the D has been great. It's the offense that needs to start carrying it's weight around here.

freddyg12 11-03-2007 11:47 AM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
You can't be too critical of our D up until last week, even then they just got worn out.

I was however disappointed w/GW's game plan v. the pats. It seemed that he didn't throw any blitzes at them. I know there are tons of ways to mix up coverages to give the qb a different look and try to confuse him, but play after play if he knows you're only sending 4 & his linemen can handle it (which they did save for Daniels' coverage sack), then he's going to scan the field & you know somebody is open. Our corners did a great job against NE, it was the underneath stuff that killed us.

I really feel like GW would approach the Pats entirely differently if given a second chance. I sure hope that Gibbs didn't give him orders not to blitz at all.

This week, let Laron & Rocky have at least a few shots at the young qb!

freddyg12 11-03-2007 11:50 AM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
[quote=Schneed10;372776]I'm amazed that people can criticize our defense at this point in the season. It has been nothing short of spectacular outside of the Patriots game.

I have no idea why you would want to do a single thing differently against any team not from New England.

WTF?[/quote]

My previous post has some constructive criticism. I do think we'll have to send some more blitzes to at least pose the threat & force offenses to keep more guys in.

Overall though, I agree w/you, our D has been about as good as anyone could've expected & that includes Gw's game plans. I just think we could've thrown some different stuff at Brady. He nickel & dimed us down the field.

Schneed10 11-03-2007 11:50 AM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
[quote=freddyg12;372778]You can't be too critical of our D up until last week, even then they just got worn out.

I was however disappointed w/GW's game plan v. the pats. It seemed that he didn't throw any blitzes at them. I know there are tons of ways to mix up coverages to give the qb a different look and try to confuse him, but play after play if he knows you're only sending 4 & his linemen can handle it (which they did save for Daniels' coverage sack), then he's going to scan the field & you know somebody is open. Our corners did a great job against NE, it was the underneath stuff that killed us.

I really feel like GW would approach the Pats entirely differently if given a second chance. I sure hope that Gibbs didn't give him orders not to blitz at all.

This week, let Laron & Rocky have at least a few shots at the young qb![/quote]

Blitzing Tom Brady really is the last thing you want to do. Of all the QBs in the league, he's by far the coolest under pressure. He stays poised and delivers the ball to his outlet, or stares down the rush and launches a bomb over your head. You've got to be patient and try to shut down his WRs, and hope your front 4 can get there.

Really against the Pats, you're damned if you blitz and nearly as damned if you don't. They're just at a whole other level. They put up 49 or whatever against Dallas, so don't read much into it. The Pats are just awesome; it doesn't necessarily say we stink on D.

Schneed10 11-03-2007 11:53 AM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
[quote=freddyg12;372779]My previous post has some constructive criticism. I do think we'll have to send some more blitzes to at least pose the threat & force offenses to keep more guys in.

Overall though, I agree w/you, our D has been about as good as anyone could've expected & that includes Gw's game plans. I just think we could've thrown some different stuff at Brady. He nickel & dimed us down the field.[/quote]

Andre Carter has been all over opposing QBs this year. In the Cardinals game, which was only a week before the Pats game mind you, the front 4 was ALL OVER Warner and forced 3 turnovers. We didn't blitz in that game.

I'm not against a well-timed blitz here and there, but it's hard to argue against GW's formula this year. We're getting sacks, we're getting turnovers, and we're even getting points on defense (London Fletcher, Carlos Rogers TDs). Sean Taylor leads (or is tied for the league lead) in INTs.

I wouldn't change a thing, personally.

skinsnut 11-03-2007 01:25 PM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
I guess you are referring to my "less than enamored with our D" comment as being never happy.

The truth is our defense is good but it has some obvious weaknesses that can be exploited by playoff teams such as the Giants and the Pats.
You recall, the swiss cheese in that game don't you?
To me...the game against the pats was just more of the same....good execution with the skins hoping for offensive mistakes to force a punt.
Well, that is good enough to stop half the teams the majority of drives, but to beat a good offense that doesn't make stupid mistakes, you need to shake things up.

All of us as fans knew this going into the Pats game.
Our defense would need to do some things differently (as well as our offense)
Neither happened....and that is my major concern if we want to be a playoff team.

No adjustments.

paulskinsfan 11-03-2007 05:27 PM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
[quote=Mattyk72;372777]Some people are never happy no matter what. Last year it was too much blitzing, this year it's not enough.

Outside of last week the D has been great. It's the offense that needs to start carrying it's weight around here.[/quote]


Well, I never said I wasn't happy with the defense this year, what I said was that I would like to see SOME blitzing, especially against Clemens, who is not a rookie as I thought but an inexperienced 2nd year player. So, to clarify for "some people" Im happy with the D, I would just like to see the blitz occasionnally, especially this week.

Green1 11-04-2007 10:48 AM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
He should have been going after Brady and made him pay everytime he passed

Warpath 11-04-2007 10:56 AM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;372774]Umm, did you happen to watch any games last year??[/QUOTE]

Im talking strictly this season. Last year was a completely different story.
How many games have we played zone this season? I think every one of them. How many times have you seen a corner or LB blitz? I think none.

Green1 11-04-2007 11:05 AM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
That pervent D will work against unexperienced QBs but with QBs like Brady and P. Manning that stuff is not going to work. You have to hit those guys in the mouth and keep doing it all day.

MTK 11-04-2007 12:12 PM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
[quote=Warpath;372860]Im talking strictly this season. Last year was a completely different story.
How many games have we played zone this season? I think every one of them. How many times have you seen a corner or LB blitz? I think none.[/quote]

Right, and the reason is because of what happened last year. That's why GW changed up his D.

Warpath 11-04-2007 12:46 PM

Re: OK GW.....release the hounds!
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;372879]Right, and the reason is because of what happened last year. That's why GW changed up his D.[/QUOTE]

I agree thats why the D is different. Im saying, like I did in my first post (2nd in the thread) that GW doesn't blitz because of the way the D is set up this season.


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