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Part of me wants to blame everyone. Another part says blame no one, because the game was just so weird. Every mistake for the past month came out in full force today.

But three things rally bothered me about today's game, apart from the obvious turnovers and poor line play

[B]Santana Moss[/B] The number #1 receiver on the team can't be shut out three weeks in a row. He's got to step it up big time against Cleveland. The best find ways to get open and be part of the offense

[B]Randle El[/B] Just stop this madness of ARE at punt returner. It's just too painful to watch anymore. Put Fabini back there for all I care

[B]Durant Brooks[/B] He needs a scare. Bring someone in to challenge him this week.

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Penalites: 7 penalties at home (or any week really) is not acceptable and reflects lack of focus.

Pass Rush: We've got to generate more pressure off the ends without blitzing.

And I agree that we absolutely have to find a new punt returner. Randle El is just awful back there.

Also, I agree that at the very least we need to bring in a few punters for workouts.

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Brooks- competition: We tried to be nice as fans, but [B]my[/B] pacience is done
ARE- Very frustrating seeing you dance and not go upfield for positive yards.
O Line- Hopefullly this was just a one game screw up
Torrence- How about keeping WR's in front of you on 3rd and 15 instead of fighting with coaches (karma's a B.....)

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Zorn mentioned after the game he MAY bring another punter in. I've been complaining about ARE returning punts for 2 years now to whoever would listen. Before the season started we talked about how we need help on both lines. I think that still holds true. On a side note, the Pats are getting :spank:

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Pete Kendall - You're an offensive lineman, not a running back. Next time that happens, just fall on the ball.

Jason Campbell - If you ever fumble again, just fall on the ball.

Cooley - WTF?

Defense - While you guys were great, you dropped two sure picks that would have made a difference.

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Huh? Cooley had a solid game. He gets the tough yards-after-catch, which means he's going to cough up the football from time to time. His huge catch at the end of the 2nd quarter put us in position to go ahead going into the locker room.

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On the radio broadcast Sonny said "I hope that randle el thinks that he's back in pittsburgh so he can actually return the ball"

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-I definitely agree Moss needs to be a bigger part of the game plan. 2 catches over the last 2 weeks? That's just not going to get it done. Especially against a very beat up Rams' secondary. Moss should have had a field day.

-Speaking of that depleted Rams' secondary I'm still surprised we weren't more aggressive in taking some shots down the field. At least try to draw some PI. I know the running game is really firing but I just thought the game plan in the 2nd half was a little too conservative. I hate to say it but Goose was right during the game, you can't let a team like that hang around all game long. Gotta go for the throat early and put them away.

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[quote=Mattyk72;489187]-I definitely agree Moss needs to be a bigger part of the game plan. 2 catches over the last 2 weeks? That's just not going to get it done. Especially against a very beat up Rams' secondary. Moss should have had a field day.

-Speaking of that depleted Rams' secondary I'm still surprised we weren't more aggressive in taking some shots down the field. At least try to draw some PI. [B][I]I know the running game is really firing but I just thought the game plan in the 2nd half was a little too conservative. [/I][/B] I hate to say it but Goose was right during the game, you can't let a team like that hang around all game long. Gotta go for the throat early and put them away.[/quote]

This frustrated me the most. It was feeling very Gibbs-like at times even though it was working better. I thought the playcalling got a little predictable.

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It almost seems like we went into the game with the mentality that we were not going to beat ourselves, but that is exactly what happend.

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Kareem Moore. why the F did you straight up throw a shoulder in to randle el on the only gd punt return he's had that looked like it could turn into something???

whoever didnt blitz on the last big play for the rams.

jansen for proving me correct in his pedestrian pass protection

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[quote=SmootSmack;489120][B]Santana Moss[/B] The number #1 receiver on the team can't be shut out three weeks in a row. He's got to step it up big time against Cleveland. The best find ways to get open and be part of the offense[/quote]

He also killed a drive with a drop on the first series of the game. I believe it was a 3rd and 4 play. It looked like if he had caught it, the play could have gone for 15 or 20 yards, because there wasn't a Ram defensive back within five yards of him.

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[quote=Southpaw;489202]He also killed a drive with a drop on the first series of the game. I believe it was a 3rd and 4 play. It looked like if he had caught it, the play could have gone for 15 or 20 yards, because there wasn't a Ram defensive back within five yards of him.[/quote]

Yeah that was a key drop, something that he and ARE both seem to be struggling with lately. They need to shore that up and start catching those balls that are hitting them in the hands. Drops like that are momentum killers.

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What's with ARE spinning as soon as he catches the ball, but no one is anywhere near him? He did that on one of his returns this weekend and I couldn't understand why he would do that...

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Devin "Touchdown" Thomas and Malcom Kelly, where the f were you guys?

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Pete Kendall - Knock the goddamn ball to the ground! You are a lineman, you do not want the ball. And if you do pick it up, FALL DOWN!

Leigh Torrance / Fred Smoot - There is no reason to jawsmack with a coach, then turn around and get burned by a rookie late in the game. And Fred Smoot, why were you not on the field with the game on the line?

Durant Brooks - If you want to keep your job, you better step it up. There are plenty of out of work punters who could punt better with their eyes closed than you are doing now.

Entire Team - This is your wakeup call. Nothing is guaranteed in this game, and it's time to refocus and keep medium. Do not take anything for granted, whether you are 10 point underdogs or 14 point favorites.

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of all the mistakes,the one that torrance made was the one that was inexcuseable.
how do you let anybody get that wide open?the skins deserved to lose yesterday more than they have deserved to win any of their 4 victories this season.the rams showed them the difference between horse seed and horseshit.

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I didn't think Avery was that wide open. While it's easy to blame Torrence for the loss, that's not really fair.

My [U]Goats[/U]:

[B]Durant Brooks [/B]- Well, at least you'll always have that Ray Guy trophy.

[B]Casey Rabach[/B] - You're killing us. You cost us the game against San Diego in 2005, a TD against the Cowboys, and caused a turnover yesterday. I think we may need to get another dirtbag.

[B]Jim Zorn[/B] - You've called brilliant games in our four wins and made some questionable decisions in our two losses. I'm really happy with you and want you to be a Redskin for a long time, so stop running out the clock when we are playing from behind.

[B]Chris Cooley & Pete Kendall[/B] - You two probably cost us 7-21 points, between the scoring drives you killed and the 7 points you spotted the Rams. Love you both, but you are both goats of the week.

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Pass rush - I agree with the person above that mentioned this. We got two sacks yesterday, which was two more than what we got in the previous two weeks, but still. One of those sacks was by a DB (Springs) and the other was the result of good coverage (Bulger didn't have anywhere to go with the ball). We just aren't getting enough pressure, and that showed on that 43 yard completion to Avery.

Fumbles - I'm just gonna say fumbles rather than pick apart three guys. Rabach has been pretty disappointing this year, Kendall just made a dumb decision (I ain't gonna go harsh on him, I think he was harsh enough on himself during the post game), and Cooley's was just the result of him fighting for extra yards.

Moss - That's two weeks in a row he's been shut down, and this one was against a horrible Rams secondary. He was looking excellent earlier this season, but he's definitely cooled off now. It's time for him to step it up and have a good game next week.

Zorn - hated to include him, but the playcalling wasn't inspiring this game. Zorn probably realized that the Skins weren't taking this too seriously during the week, but rather than try to inspire them early on and make them more motivated, he just called a plain game rather than go for the kill early and often. To me Zorn seems like a guy who attacks rather than plays conservatively, but it seemed he was more conservative than aggressive.

Offense - I feel like this needed to be mentioned as a whole. The Rams are a horrible defensive team and we failed to capitalize on that. Penalties and turnovers killed our offensive drives and some series we played too sloppy, and I feel that outweighed the few good drives we had that turned into points.

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I'm not going to rip on Kendall, he's been a GREAT trade value since he came over from the Jets. He's also an incredibly heady player who always knows the situation, and he knew he had to secure the ball if he was going to try to advance it. The fact that it got knocked out anyway is unfortunate.

Campbell got a bit careless in the pocket at times, but it's all part of the learning process he's undergoing. He threw the ball well, but he'll have better games in the future.

Rabach is simply a necessary evil at this point. We should have addressed the position in free agency, and now we are going to be hurt by it. Jansen can't block top ends, and if Heyer and Samuels aren't healthy, this team might be in trouble. At least Cooley is blocking well.

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I agree. Kendall is one of our most consistent O-linemen and is having a great year. The fumble was just a fluke thing to me.

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I have never been so angry after a game. I (rightly or wrongly) was (an still am) finding fault with everyone. Even Rogers who for the most part has been playing great - had the special teams penalty I believe on the second to last drive which put us way back. i guess I am not capable of cutting anyone any slack. Hopefully by Wednesday i will calm down. And correct me if I am wrong - but it was Taylor on daning with the stars right? Well, why does Randal El seem to always be auditioning for that show on his punt returns? 2 steps to the right and 2 to the left...repeat. I just want someone to run fast and straight ahead. They may not get many yards, but at least they will hit some one. Excuse me...I need to go take a pill and lie down.

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[quote=HipHipHooray;489569]I have never been so angry after a game. I (rightly or wrongly) was (an still am) finding fault with everyone. Even Rogers who for the most part has been playing great - had the special teams penalty I believe on the second to last drive which put us way back. i guess I am not capable of cutting anyone any slack. Hopefully by Wednesday i will calm down. And correct me if I am wrong - but it was Taylor on daning with the stars right? Well, why does Randal El seem to always be auditioning for that show on his punt returns? 2 steps to the right and 2 to the left...repeat. I just want someone to run fast and straight ahead. They may not get many yards, but at least they will hit some one. Excuse me...I need to go take a pill and lie down.[/quote]

Good point about Randle El (funny DWTS analogy). I feel the same way. It's really awful.

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A new punter is a must. Who do you suggest as a punt returner though? Put a rookie in there? I don't think so. Maybe give Thrash the job. Next draft we need to finally get a couple D linemen in here. This getting members of the over the hill or not so over the hill gang is getting tiresome. Taylor won't improve our pass rush that much this season. Cleveland is beating the Gmen right now as I type, so we better CUT THE CRAP, get serious, and beat the hell of of the Browns and Lions!!!!!!! The Lions are some sorry ass losers and if we lose to them we suck.

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Moss - Since we've been struggling these past couple of weeks getting Moss involved in the passing game, maybe we should drop him back to return punts a couple of times per game, ala Steve Smith. We need to get him the ball, and maybe ARE will remember how to go up field if he sees Moss do it.

Offense - Its the same problem we had under Gibbs, we're pretty good at sustaining offense and horrible at finishing drives with tds. Thats why we drafted three pass catchers in the 2nd round, to give us playmakers who could score tds for us.

We've got to score more points. The turnovers killed three drives when we were moving the ball, but we've got to figure out how to score points out of the passing game.

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[quote=53Fan;489530]I agree. Kendall is one of our most consistent O-linemen and is having a great year. The fumble was just a fluke thing to me.[/quote]

I may be wrong but he tucked that ball in when he caught it, I think the Rams' defender just made a good helmet-to-ball hit. Maybe the ball wasn't that secured.

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[quote=SmootSmack;489120]
[B]Santana Moss[/B] The number #1 receiver on the team can't be shut out three weeks in a row. He's got to step it up big time against Cleveland. The best find ways to get open and be part of the offense

[B]Randle El[/B] Just stop this madness of ARE at punt returner. It's just too painful to watch anymore. Put Fabini back there for all I care

[B]Durant Brooks[/B] He needs a scare. Bring someone in to challenge him this week.[/quote]
Agree on above

[B]Thomas / Kelly[/B] - learn the system, step up in practice and get on the damn field. JC needs big physical targets, particularly in the Red Zone.

[B]Jason Fabiani[/B] - was absolutely abused, driven 5 yards into the backfield on almost every passing down. Bugel needs to find a better back-up at LT if Samuels goes down. Try Heyer or Rinehart, Fabiani ain't getting it done.

[B]Jansen[/B] - solid in run game, a big liability in the passing game. Little is past his prime and shouldn't be beating Jansen off the edge. There were at least 5 or six times where Campbell's movement in the pocket or quick release avoided sacks that would've been Jansen's fault. Heyer needs to start against Cleveland, if he can be even average in the run game.

[B]Blitz pick-up[/B] - we gave up two sacks because of missed assignments. Know what the protection call is and don't leave an open gap. This could be partly Campbell's fault if he didn't identify the potential blitzers and make the correct adjustment.

[B]Blache -[/B] I have no problem with an attacking man coverage defense, it has been working well.....BUT know the game situation. On 3-13 when the Rams are on their own 41, with 1 timeout, 1:15 left in the game and Smoot out, DO NOT call a Cover 1 blitz. You are putting a weaker corner on an island. If the blitz doesn't get there you're F-ed. Why not a Cover 2, with man underneath or a zone blitz with solid deep coverage and put the pressure on the Rams to come up big. Terrible defensive playcall IMO.

[B]Daryl Johnston (Moose)[/B] - Am I the only one he irritates the HELL out of?

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[quote=GTripp0012;489528]I'm not going to rip on Kendall, he's been a GREAT trade value since he came over from the Jets. He's also an incredibly heady player who always knows the situation, and he knew he had to secure the ball if he was going to try to advance it. The fact that it got knocked out anyway is unfortunate.

Campbell got a bit careless in the pocket at times, but it's all part of the learning process he's undergoing. He threw the ball well, but he'll have better games in the future.

Rabach is simply a necessary evil at this point. We should have addressed the position in free agency, and now we are going to be hurt by it. Jansen can't block top ends, and if Heyer and Samuels aren't healthy, this team might be in trouble. At least Cooley is blocking well.[/quote]

[url=http://www.walterfootball.com/pro2009amack.php]WalterFootball.com: 2009 NFL Draft Prospects - Alex Mack Profile[/url]

This guy is absolutely nasty. Depending on where we pick, I wonder if he'd fall to us this year.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;489760][B]Jason Fabini[/B] - was absolutely abused, driven 5 yards into the backfield on almost every passing down. Bugel needs to find a better back-up at LT if Samuels goes down. Try Heyer or Rinehart, Fabiani ain't getting it done.

[B]Jansen[/B] - solid in run game, a big liability in the passing game. Little is past his prime and shouldn't be beating Jansen off the edge. There were at least 5 or six times where Campbell's movement in the pocket or quick release avoided sacks that would've been Jansen's fault. Heyer needs to start against Cleveland, if he can be even average in the run game.

[B]Blitz pick-up[/B] - we gave up two sacks because of missed assignments. Know what the protection call is and don't leave an open gap. This could be partly Campbell's fault if he didn't identify the potential blitzers and make the correct adjustment.

[B]Blache -[/B] I have no problem with an attacking man coverage defense, it has been working well.....BUT know the game situation. On 3-13 when the Rams are on their own 41, with 1 timeout, 1:15 left in the game and Smoot out, DO NOT call a Cover 1 blitz. You are putting a weaker corner on an island. If the blitz doesn't get there you're F-ed. Why not a Cover 2, with man underneath or a zone blitz with solid deep coverage and put the pressure on the Rams to come up big. Terrible defensive playcall IMO.[/quote]Re: Blache, I'm totally Okay with the blitz call in that situation. It's 4 down territory, 3rd and 13, and Bulger is going to be desperate. A sack ends the competitive phase of the game. It's a good situation to bring the pressure in. However, Blache should have known that Springs should have been on Avery. Not that Torrence failed or anything, but Torrence can easily handle anything Eddie Kennison would run. Bulger threw the ball because he picked the matchup out pre-snap, and it probably would have been tougher on the QB if he saw Springs on him, which is a matchup in our favor.

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Speaking of Rinehart, what happened to the guy? He hasn't even dressed once this season. If a guy hasn't dressed by the 6th week, he's usually the 53rd man on the roster. I'm not saying he's going to be cut, but I'm a little concerned.

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[quote=Stacks42;489217]Devin "Touchdown" Thomas and Malcom Kelly, where the f were you guys?[/quote]AMEN!!! I thought for sure that we would see a lot more of Thomas after he got a couple of 1st down catches against Philly. He's probably our 2nd fastest WR after Moss, and could do a lot to help free Santana if we would only get him on the field.

As for Kelly, who knows when he will be healthy again?

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Numbers game with Rinehart. Based on how well he played in the preseason and how much Buges likes him, I don't think there's anything to be worried about.

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leave the rock in the back and where IS thomas and kelly it's already the 6th week. COME ON!!!!

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;489763][url=http://www.walterfootball.com/pro2009amack.php]WalterFootball.com: 2009 NFL Draft Prospects - Alex Mack Profile[/url]

This guy is absolutely nasty. Depending on where we pick, I wonder if he'd fall to us this year.[/quote]

I hope so! He looks like he could be a HOG!!! Predicted to be a 1rst week starter at center or guard. Smart and HUGE!