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-The running game looks unstoppable at times. Portis is on pace for 1700+ right now.

-Campbell again looked very solid. Still no INTs on the year.

-Carlos Rogers... he's officially off the potential bust list. He really did a nice job locking up against Holt. He's now the real deal.

-Cooley, amazing catch down the seam where you had to lay out for the ball.

-Overall this game was lost due to one thing... turnovers. Other than that it was a dominant game on both sides of the ball. Unfortunately the only thing that matters is the score.

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[quote=Mattyk72;489322]-The running game looks unstoppable at times. Portis is on pace for 1700+ right now.

-Campbell again looked very solid. Still no INTs on the year.

-Carlos Rogers... he's officially off the potential bust list. He really did a nice job locking up against Holt. He's now the real deal.

-Cooley, amazing catch down the seam where you had to lay out for the ball.

-Overall this game was lost due to one thing... turnovers. Other than that it was a dominant game on both sides of the ball. Unfortunately the only thing that matters is the score.[/quote]

Don't forget Horton, he was all over the place. Maybe he's to blame for the pass to Avery, but he is making a name for himself and what a steal!!!!!

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Yeah maybe Horton cost us the game but hey, he was all over the place!

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One of the only intelligent things I have EVER heard Chris Carter (I think it was) say in evaluation of the East, and specifically the Skins and boys.
[B]To wit[/B],
a championship team has more than just talent. they hang out together. They go to dinner together. They refuse to QUIT on their teamates. They sacrifice for each other. ex. not partying when it matters, so as not to let the other guys down. He further states these guys ARE NOT T.O., Tank, Pacman "Adam" Jones. The boys don't get it. Talent???? yes. Champions????? No
He referred to the Skins as a bit immature...........but close. According to him.......The Skins have "IT". Possibly a little more maturation is necessary.
Riggins said almost the same thing identically, last week. He stated, the Skins are GOOD, real good. He also stated there is a maturation process to a championship team. The type of confidence that helps them [B]keep their foot on the gas [/B]even with lesser teams. He adds, [B]they are close[/B]
I completely agree with these evaluations, and Zorn basically is re-stating it in his presser right now.

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[quote=Mattyk72;489327]Yeah maybe Horton cost us the game but hey, he was all over the place![/quote]

Yeah, because he didn't get home on one blitz, we should overlook the fact that guys whose job it is to hang onto the ball didn't. Or that guys whose job it is to never touch the ball decided to, but...no, you're right Chris Horton cost the Skins the game.

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Press conference:
[B]Reporter:[/B] "Coach, what is the most impressive thing to you about Clinton Portis"?
[B]JZ[/B]: "Does he not lead the National Football League in running backs"? "I think that's pretty impressive!"

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[quote=Mattyk72;489327]Yeah maybe Horton cost us the game but hey, he was all over the place![/quote]

:lol: Exactly. Which is why a lot of us were'nt in such a hurry to just throw him into the starting spot and kick Doughty to special teams only. He'll be a star, but he still has a lot to learn.

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On the bright side, we did'nt lose to a division team. We're 4-2 with the rest of our division games at home. Kendall will probably never touch the ball again and if he would'nt of fumbled it would'nt have been such a bad play. Crap occurs. JC still has'nt thrown an Int. The mistakes in this game are correctable. This game could actually make us more intense in the future. We have a future star at SS once he learns his assignments. Portis is running like the Beast he is. We are seeing things like communication problems now instead of later. We still have a ways to go. I think we knew that before this game. If we have some problems, I'd rather see them early in the season so they can be corrected NOW. We don't want to be finding out we have alot of work to do later in the season when we have some very big games.

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Yea I am glad they pointed out how Carlos was dominating holt on Fox. It is a disappointment that we lost, and it will probably take away from one of his best games of the year.

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I thought Randle-El had a nice game overall. And that drive we had to take the lead was very nice--more good stuff from JC.

But, DAMN. We lost to the friggin RAMS! Oy.

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CR has come into his own and is starting to gain that "Lockdown" corner title. He tackles, breaks up passes and he's finally getting his head turned around at the rite times to avoid PI.

Keep it up!

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[quote=Mattyk72;489322]-The running game looks unstoppable at times. Portis is on pace for 1700+ right now.

-Campbell again looked very solid. Still no INTs on the year.

-Carlos Rogers... he's officially off the potential bust list. He really did a nice job locking up against Holt. He's now the real deal.

-Cooley, amazing catch down the seam where you had to lay out for the ball.

-Overall this game was lost due to one thing... turnovers. Other than that it was a dominant game on both sides of the ball. Unfortunately the only thing that matters is the score.[/quote]
It's funny how you bust on Horton for maybe costing us the game, but you put Cooley in your highlights when he's just as responsible as Horton when he fumbled the ball trying to gain an extra inch on a very promising drive. Yes, Cooley's catch was awesome but Horton's play was just as impressive save the failed blitz.

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How 'bout them Auburn guys!

Rogers has emerged as my definitive third favorite Redskin (behind Springs and Portis). Hopefully, we can stop hearing the "I can't believe we passed on Merriman for Rogers" talk.

Campbell and Portis, as is becoming the norm, were definite highlights

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It was really karim Moore who blew it on that last play (see the thread linking to JLac's analysis). But maybe it wasn't the greatest call--we left Torrence in single coverage there.

Oh, well. Can't get the play back. Let's hope they learn and grow from this and don't take a step back.

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[quote=jdlea;489333]Yeah, because he didn't get home on one blitz, we should overlook the fact that guys whose job it is to hang onto the ball didn't. Or that guys whose job it is to never touch the ball decided to, but...no, you're right Chris Horton cost the Skins the game.[/quote]

All I've heard from the "analysts" on the radio this morning is that it was Kareem Moore who was out of position on the long pass to Avery. Where did the info on it being Horton's fault come from?

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[quote=jdlea;489333]Yeah, because he didn't get home on one blitz, we should overlook the fact that guys whose job it is to hang onto the ball didn't. Or that guys whose job it is to never touch the ball decided to, but...no, you're right Chris Horton cost the Skins the game.[/quote]

I think you're missing my point. People are way too quick to give Horton a pass I think. He wasn't the main reason for the loss, but he factors in there somewhere. If it was Moore responsible for that play then I take back my criticism on Horton.

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Whether it was Moore or Horton does'nt really matter. Young guys are going to make some mistakes. Still, they must be held accountable just like the veterans, whether it's Cooley- fumble, Kendall- fumble, Landry- dropped int. Fletcher- dropped int. the list goes on. After 0 turnovers the first 5 games, this game looked horrible but I don't believe it's the norm for us. We had a bad game in many ways and I hope the players move on to next week. The same personnel that lost this game, is the same personnel that took us to 4-1. I would hope the players are'nt doing all this finger pointing. There is enough blame to go around. Since the Skins have become a real TEAM, I'm sure they're not pointing fingers and anyone who is should be traded. We're sitting pretty good right now and hopefully we'll move past this, get back on track and kick Clevelands ass this Sunday. I can't speak for Matty but I took him to mean that some guys are getting a pass for their mistakes while other guys get hammered for theirs. We win as a team and we lose as a team. If that ever stops, we're in for some deep s**t.

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[quote=Mattyk72;489390]I think you're missing my point. People are way too quick to give Horton a pass I think. He wasn't the main reason for the loss, but he factors in there somewhere. If it was Moore responsible for that play then I take back my criticism on Horton.[/quote]

Quite honestly, to be in the position with the Rams where one play determines W/L is..........bad. Therefore, it's a team deal unless one guy did all the fumbling. One guy had the blown coverages, etc.
That having been said, playing a Rook has it's drawbacks! Even a talented one

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[quote=Mattyk72;489322]...
-Carlos Rogers... he's officially off the potential bust list. He really did a nice job locking up against Holt. He's now the real deal. [/quote]

Looking at the three CB's available at the top of that draft, I would say that we came away with the best player. Pac Man will never grow up, and Antrel Rolle has already moved to safety. Rogers looks like a legit #1 corner and he's young enough that he will only get better.

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[quote=SouperMeister;489437]Looking at the three CB's available at the top of that draft, I would say that we came away with the best player. Pac Man will never grow up, and Antrel Rolle has already moved to safety. Rogers looks like a legit #1 corner and he's young enough that he will only get better.[/quote]
Good point. As is typical, MANY an "expert" sent a lot of grief our way for that pick over the other guys

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[quote=Mattyk72;489390]I think you're missing my point. People are way too quick to give Horton a pass I think. He wasn't the main reason for the loss, but he factors in there somewhere. If it was Moore responsible for that play then I take back my criticism on Horton.[/quote]

I don't think people are giving him a pass for anything. I heard on the radio that it was Moore who was supposed to blitz but didn't, and by all accounts and play design would have had a free shot on bulger, or at least rushed his throw and made him check down.

Horton has earned a few accolades. His play has been nothing short of outstanding in run support, and it looks like that's the role the D wants him to play. I know the coaches don't want him to quit progressing, but for a seventh round pick to even make our roster is something new... much less to start as a rookie and be among the league leaders in turnovers, and be third on the team in tackles, even though he didn't start or play much in the first couple of games.

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Kareem Moore was the rookie who was supposed to blitz and didn't. But Torrence should have defended the pass better.

Also, I agree that Rogers has been an excellent cornerback this year, much better than I expected.

But...the offensive line did not dominate except in the running game. When Campbell dropped back to pass, most of the time he was under a lot of pressure.

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On the bright side....Romo is out for 4 weeks!

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take away the 3 fumbles and count the at least 4 pics that were dropped and it's a huge blowout.skins just did'nt play fundamentally sound yesterday.

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Yeah, the good...

#22 is finally coming into his own. A real shutdown DB.
No INTs after 6 games
Horton is proving to be a steal
JZ can call a game after all

The bad...

We fell asleep on the Rams. It was clear that we came in with to much confidence and got punched in the throat. That's not what Championship teams do. Thats what 10-6 Wildcard teams do. We need to beat the teams we are expected to beat.

We are getting into the habit of dropping way to many passes. WTF? Come on Santana.

Our Special Teams (Punt kick and return) sucks. Nuf said.

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[QUOTE] We are getting into the habit of dropping way to many passes. WTF? Come on Santana.
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and don't forget that the defense is dropping almost every int that comes right to them and hits them in the numbers.

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Since we are bashing our team, I gotta bring up JC's Fumble...not his fault on the bad snap, BUT you have to fall on the ball in that case!

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I thought this was on the bright side. I just heard on tv the Cowgirls are S...t...r...u...g...g...l...i...n...g. That's like music to my ears. The Cowgirls are S...t...r...u...g...g...l...i...n...g.

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I have to add Marcus Washington to the "Bright Side" list. After a few weeks of sub-par performances and people doubting if Marcus could still be effective as a starter Marcus came out and had a very good game proving to me that when he's healthy he is still a quality starter.

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[quote=RMSkins;489474]I have to add Marcus Washington to the "Bright Side" list. After a few weeks of sub-par performances and people doubting if Marcus could still be effective as a starter Marcus came out and had a very good game proving to me that when he's healthy he is still a quality starter.[/quote]

Ditto. Good call.

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i wonder if the defense has tip drills at every practice?if they do,it aint working.

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[quote=RMSkins;489474]I have to add Marcus Washington to the "Bright Side" list. After a few weeks of sub-par performances and people doubting if Marcus could still be effective as a starter Marcus came out and had a very good game proving to me that when he's healthy he is still a quality starter.[/quote]

I just wish he would stop those stupid celebrations after he makes a tackle, pretty annoying if you ask me.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;489479]I just wish he would stop those stupid celebrations after he makes a tackle, pretty annoying if you ask me.[/quote]
Yeah they're a bit over the top, but I think it gets the fans and defense fired up so I can deal with it.

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[quote=RMSkins;489474]I have to add Marcus Washington to the "Bright Side" list. After a few weeks of sub-par performances and people doubting if Marcus could still be effective as a starter Marcus came out and had a very good game proving to me that when he's healthy he is still a quality starter.[/quote]

Hell Yes RMSkins !!! 7 tackles and 1 FF. Everytime someone gets hurt on this team you've got people on here ready to can 'em. Good Call my Friend!

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[quote=RMSkins;489484]Yeah they're a bit over the top, but I think it gets the fans and defense fired up so I can deal with it.[/quote]

Yeah, he plays with emotion. I can dig it.

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Plus Horton had another strong game against the Browns, as did the whole defensive team.

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To bump this a little.....
[B]we got beat by a better team[/B]. We still have yet to turn the corner offensively-[B]we will[/B]. We need some help on the O-line as they got pushed all over the field (not just Jansen). We can fix this with the usual draft and FA moves after the season.
[COLOR="Red"]BUT[/COLOR], WHO expected to be in this good of shape at this point in the season? We had our chances to do something, and those willl start to fall our way. Like Carlos will CATCH the ball!
We have two weeks to get healthy, and figure some things out HTTR

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[quote=Hog1;497590]To bump this a little.....
[B]we got beat by a better team[/B]. We still have yet to turn the corner offensively-[B]we will[/B]. We need some help on the O-line as they got pushed all over the field (not just Jansen). We can fix this with the usual draft and FA moves after the season.
[COLOR=red]BUT[/COLOR], WHO expected to be in this good of shape at this point in the season? We had our chances to do something, and those willl start to fall our way. Like Carlos will CATCH the ball!
We have two weeks to get healthy, and figure some things out HTTR[/quote]


Good call . . .

I wanted to believe that the Redskins would sneek up on everyone and take the division, but this game has sobered me up a little bit. The truth is I've been saying since the begining of the season that we're not quite there yet.

We need to bring some young talent to both lines, and then I think in another year or two we'll be a real contender, right now we are just an above average team. Also, our 2nd rounders are simply not going to make an impact this year. At least not in time to make us a legit threat.

On the bright side . . .

We have what seems to be a legit Playcaller and head coach

A monster Running back

An elite QB

A few elite targets (Cooley, Moss, Randel El)

A defense that when its all said and done is probably in the top 10 in the league.

AND most of all, this season isn't over, we'll still probably make the WC, and who knows, maybe we'll come out of the bye hitting it on all cylinders and overtake the Giants. I doubt it, but it is still possible. HTTR.