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saden1 05-05-2009 08:25 PM

Release Him!!!
 
If you had to release a single Redskin player (a starter) who would you release and why?

WaldSkins 05-05-2009 08:30 PM

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Does Betts count as a starter?

If not Betts i'd say Rabach. He constantly get beat and is always good for about three false starts a game(always in the red zone).

EARTHQUAKE2689 05-05-2009 08:31 PM

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The thread title is kinda misleading

Nflnick11 05-05-2009 08:33 PM

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Ya the thread should be renamed which redskins should we not release

tryfuhl 05-05-2009 08:35 PM

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[quote=Nflnick11;555135]Ya the thread should be renamed which redskins should we not release[/quote]
Yeah but he's asking which you would.

I'm going to have to go with Thrash here.

Nflnick11 05-05-2009 08:36 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;555137]Yeah but he's asking which you would.

I'm going to have to go with Thrash here.[/quote]

I was joking..cause I could think of lots of skins we could cut

Skinny Tee 05-05-2009 08:39 PM

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Mine would be Jansen just because we should cut the cord on him.

Our OL is suffering because Jansen can't sustain a whole season at RT. He seems like the focus of a lot of our breakdowns late in the season.

tryfuhl 05-05-2009 08:39 PM

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[quote=Nflnick11;555139]I was joking..cause I could think of lots of skins we could cut[/quote]
Ohhh, haha, I get it now.

Paintrain 05-05-2009 08:52 PM

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On offense it would be Jansen.. Does Suisham count as a starter?

jsarno 05-05-2009 08:55 PM

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ARE hands down. (is this a fairy tale world, or realistic with cap implications? Cause I would NOT cut ARE if we had to take that 13+ mil hit)

Zerohero 05-05-2009 09:13 PM

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[quote=jsarno;555148]ARE hands down. (is this a fairy tale world, or realistic with cap implications? Cause I would NOT cut ARE if we had to take that 13+ mil hit)[/quote]

Ditto, if our new punt returner would just fall forward everytime he caught the ball our punt return yardage would be greater then last year.

Pocket$ $traight 05-05-2009 09:18 PM

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[quote=jsarno;555148]ARE hands down. (is this a fairy tale world, or realistic with cap implications? Cause I would NOT cut ARE if we had to take that 13+ mil hit)[/quote]

The sad thing is that they have so little depth that you really can't cut anybody except possibly Thrash or Yoder. ARE is a waste of space but, sadly, he is our second best wideout. I saw someone said Rabach but who would play center, Jansen?

I think you could cut Thrash and any of these guys off the street (Hackett, Williams or Washington) could outperform him. I also think that Davis should be ahead of Yoder.

budw38 05-05-2009 09:19 PM

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[quote=saden1;555130]If you had to release a single Redskin player (a starter) who would you release and why?[/quote]
A single Redskin , and my sister thought they were all married , now she has hope :) Too damn tough a decision to cut any skin .

Lotus 05-05-2009 09:22 PM

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If Thrash counts, then Thrash.

If Thrash does not count, then whoever is at right tackle, presumably Jansen.

Either way my reasoning is that we can make that cut without a big dropoff in terms of who would have to fill the empty shoes.

T.O.Killa 05-05-2009 09:32 PM

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Release Jansen take the hit this year. Next year will not be uncapped

sportscurmudgeon 05-05-2009 10:29 PM

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The candidates are:

Rabach - never gonna be better than you saw last year

Heyer - after three years of Joe Bugel tutelage, you have to expect better if there is any talent there to make better.

Randle-El - lots of money tied up there for mediocre on-field production.

Thrash - not much as a WR, but does add value to special teams.

Griffin - if you believe any/all of the young DTs are worth more than a bucket of warm spit, then Griffin is expendable.


My pick: Rabach...

backrow 05-05-2009 10:54 PM

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Without a doubt, Doughty!

Pocket$ $traight 05-05-2009 11:02 PM

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[quote=backrow;555181]Without a doubt, Doughty![/quote]

Is he a starter? He is definitely behind Horton and probably behind Moore.

GMScud 05-05-2009 11:05 PM

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I don't want to change the gist of the thread, but the question is, with or without cap numbers involved? It makes a difference. For example, cutting Randle El would cost us $13.4M, keeping him is $4.1. Cutting Jansen- $6.2M, keeping him $3.4M. So realistically dropping those two can't happen.

I'll assume we're dealing with reality here, and so I'll take the cap numbers into consideration. I say Rabach. He stinks and would only cost us $1.3 to cut, and $3.6 to keep. Problem is we don't have an upgrade for him currently on the roster.

For the record I think Randle El is a marginal return man at best, and wouldn't be any better than a #3WR on almost all teams. But a $13M hit in '09 is absurd. Cap numbers aside, I'd like to dump him, Rabach, Thrash, Jansen, and Betts.

SBXVII 05-05-2009 11:11 PM

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How ironic it is that people are quick to defend players when asked if they should be cut. lol. but these names have come up before.

ARE
Jansen
Rabach
Betts
Rogers..lol.
can we add Rock?
Thrash

Imagin if....if some of the people we picked up this yr can actually play better and bump any of these players. CAP implications a side. I honestly could see...

Jansen...cap hit
Thrash
Rabach
Rock
Betts

I think we brought in enough talent that these guys should worry but I get the feeling most of these players will be going nowhere simply cause they have been with the team and have the system atleast a yr under there belts.

jamf 05-05-2009 11:21 PM

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Rabach. We could replace him with a speedbump and get better results.

MasterBlaster 05-05-2009 11:32 PM

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Cooley, cause T.E. come a dime a dozen

saden1 05-05-2009 11:44 PM

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Clarification: You're an angry fan and you just want somebody release regardless of salary cap ramification. You can only release players at the head of the [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/was/depthchart"]depth chart[/URL].

saden1 05-05-2009 11:45 PM

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[quote=jamf;555187]Rabach. We could replace him with a speedbump and get better results.[/quote]

LOL :lol:

EARTHQUAKE2689 05-06-2009 12:09 AM

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[quote=MasterBlaster;555191]Cooley, [B]cause T.E. come a dime a dozen[/B][/quote]


maybe in a gay bar but no way a Cooley calibur player comes a dime a doezen

The Goat 05-06-2009 12:13 AM

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I'd go w/ Thrash first...we save a bit on cap and to boot he's basically been replaced already. I'll be very surprised if he makes the final roster. But if it's an actual starter we're talking about...Rabach. He sucks hard, cutting him saves a bit on cap room and we should be able to find a replacement.

NM Redskin 05-06-2009 12:16 AM

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Sellers, Im not over that goal line fumble.

The Goat 05-06-2009 12:18 AM

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[quote=NM Redskin;555203]Sellers, Im not over that goal line fumble.[/quote]

That's harsh man, really harsh.

GMScud 05-06-2009 12:27 AM

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[quote=NM Redskin;555203]Sellers, Im not over that goal line fumble.[/quote]

Yeah, I'm all for cutting pro-bowlers over one play. :doh:

NM Redskin 05-06-2009 12:33 AM

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[quote=GMScud;555206]Yeah, I'm all for cutting pro-bowlers over one play. :doh:[/quote]

Pro bowls are just a popularity contest anyway. And it was at FB lol. We could easily get someone younger and cheaper.

chrisl13 05-06-2009 12:38 AM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;555200]maybe in a gay bar but no way a Cooley calibur player comes a dime a doezen[/quote]

LMAO! funniest thing that I've ever read on here.

But if I could release one starter, I choose Smoot because he gets beat like a bad ass child.

And technically, he is a starter at the nickelback position with so many teams with 3 and 4 wr sets.

GMScud 05-06-2009 12:43 AM

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[quote=NM Redskin;555207]Pro bowls are just a popularity contest anyway. And it was at FB lol. We could easily get someone younger and cheaper.[/quote]

Well, only a 3rd of the voting is by fans. You don't think Sellers was deserving of the pro-bowl? I absolutely think he was.

I personally think the "fumble" in question was a TD btw....

NM Redskin 05-06-2009 12:56 AM

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[quote=GMScud;555209]Well, only a 3rd of the voting is by fans. You don't think Sellers was deserving of the pro-bowl? I absolutely think he was.

I personally think the "fumble" in question was a TD btw....[/quote]

Yeah maybe I'm being too hard on Sellers. Shaun Suisham then.

duetsch215 05-06-2009 01:19 AM

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suisam sucks

53Fan 05-06-2009 01:40 AM

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[quote=The Goat;555202]I'd go w/ Thrash first...we save a bit on cap and to boot he's basically been replaced already. I'll be very surprised if he makes the final roster. But if it's an actual starter we're talking about...Rabach. He sucks hard, cutting him saves a bit on cap room and we should be able to find a replacement.[/quote]

I'll go with Goat. That sounds about right.

53Fan 05-06-2009 01:42 AM

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[quote=GMScud;555209]Well, only a 3rd of the voting is by fans. You don't think Sellers was deserving of the pro-bowl? I absolutely think he was.

[B]I personally think the "fumble" in question was a TD btw[/B]....[/quote]

:food-smil

jsarno 05-06-2009 03:01 AM

Re: Release Him!!!
 
[quote=Pocket$ $traight;555154]The sad thing is that they have so little depth that you really can't cut anybody except possibly Thrash or Yoder. ARE is a waste of space but, sadly, he is our second best wideout. I saw someone said Rabach but who would play center, Jansen?

I think you could cut Thrash and any of these guys off the street (Hackett, Williams or Washington) could outperform him. I also think that Davis should be ahead of Yoder.[/quote]

I'm confident that if you give others the chances, they will perform better than ARE. It's not hard to be more productive than he is. He is only our 2nd best wr due to lack of opportunity. Hackett, Williams, Washington, even Thrash could all put up ARE numbers if given the opportunity.

tryfuhl 05-06-2009 06:33 AM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;555200]maybe in a gay bar but no way a Cooley calibur player comes a dime a doezen[/quote]
more wide receivers than tight ends at a gay bar

vallin21 05-06-2009 08:45 AM

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I'd love to cut ARE. He's just not a good #2.

Ruhskins 05-06-2009 09:13 AM

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It's been said before, but I'd go Thrash or Rabach. Although I think the fanbase are the only people that have a problem with him apparently. Oh and for a second I thought this was a thread about releasing Chad Johnson. LOL.


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