Texas vs. Oklahoma: Scouting our next QB?
 

Here we go! Sam Bradford and Colt McCoy on the same field today. I'd be interested to hear what you think of their play today and their prospects as NFL QB's.

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Hope Bradford is not hurt badly ... rough start to his year .

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If he is hurt badly he would drop in the draft!

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We'd better be looking at their O-linemen...

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[quote=Beemnseven;609746]We'd better be looking at their O-linemen...[/quote]

Have a look at Trent Williams...possible 1st rounder?

EDIT: No idea why I wrote 2nd rounder.

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McCoy sucks typical system QB

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[quote=724Skinsfan;609754]Have a look at Trent Williams...possible 1st rounder?

EDIT: No idea why I wrote 2nd rounder.[/quote]

Ouch -- looks like he just got injured.

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I think they should sit Bradford for the rest of the year. After two nasty hits on that same shoulder, his stock is dropping.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;609757]McCoy sucks typical system QB[/quote]

Speaking totally objective for someone in Norman, Oklahoma.

Actually, the pre-snap movements by the Sooner D have McCoy completely confused. Just wait till he lines up against NFL defenses...

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The pre-game competition between Stafford and McCoy was corny.

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He will end up damaging his shoulder more if he doesn't nurse his injury properly.

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If Colt is a system guy,he runs the sytem pretty damn good.

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Colt will get punished by an NFL defense. He's been having trouble with reads and the Sooner blitz all day.

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Im a Tony Pike fan

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[quote=schndr_tdd;609798]If Colt is a system guy,he runs the sytem pretty damn good.[/quote]

He is not an NFL qb.

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just say no to both. back up is about the best any one could hope for out of these 2

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LT needs to be our first pick, not QB unless Clausen is there.

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I don't want either of these guys. Especially McCoy. The first pick had better be a big nasty 300 + lb o linemen who is ready to start right away.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;609843]LT needs to be our first pick, not QB unless Clausen is there.[/quote]

I don't care if he is there. We need to re build the o line, not pick a rookie QB. Although JC may never be a top NFL QB, if he has a line in front of him he is serviceable. Carolina made it to the SB w/ Jake Delhomme.

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Either Bradford or McCoy would be great - strong arms, fairly mobile, both are pretty good at going through their reads. My personal opinion is that McCoy is a little better.

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[quote=skinsfan69;609845]I don't care if he is there. We need to re build the o line, not pick a rookie QB. Although JC may never be a top NFL QB, if he has a line in front of him he is serviceable. Carolina made it to the SB w/ Jake Delhomme.[/quote]

I just read that after putting up my post... that is a great point, yeah, changed my mind. First 2-3 picks need to be o-linemen, get rid of joe bugel, get a better o-line coach and build up the front trenches for the next 5 years.

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[quote=skinsfan69;609844]I don't want either of these guys. Especially McCoy.[B] The first pick had better be a big nasty 300 + lb o linemen who is ready to start right away[/B].[/quote]

Yes. Yes. Yes.

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[quote=dmek25;609828]just say no to both. back up is about the best any one could hope for out of these 2[/quote]

I was listening to the game (It was on the house, I'm not into college sports) and I kept hearing something about Bradford re-injuring his shoulder. Shouldn't that be red flags to NOT draft this kid? A few years taking shots in at the pro level and that dude's career is done.

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Did anybody else notice that the OK medical staff/trainers never put an icepack on his shoulder ??

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Check out Zac Robinson tonight. Someone to keep an eye on, especially if Gruden is our next coach...just saying

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;609843]LT needs to be our first pick, not QB unless [B]Clausen is there[/B].[/quote]
im not getting the whole thing? enlighten me, will you?

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Ok to be honest, I think that all the QB's in this years draft aren't THE ANSWER, and the only one that I think is the ANSWER, keeps hurting his shoulder so much that he may not even declare for the draft this year (Sam Bradford). Clausen will be the next Ryan Leaf, IMO. McCoy looks like a system QB. Same thing for Tebow. Zack Robinson looked decent the one game I saw him play, but that was last year, and from what I've heard he isn't projected to be a good NFL QB. Jevan Sneads got an arm, but isn't accurate and isn't good at all with his awful OL, so why would he be good here? Tony Pike makes some pretty bad mistakes, and when I watched him against USF, he threw at least 2 passes that should have been picks. He's a very poor mans Flacco, but not worth a first rounder at all, IMO. Dan LeFlevour is a great running QB, but definitley isn't a first rounder, he's shaky at passing.

So with all that said, our first round pick must be a LT. That leaves Russell Okung of Oklahoma State, Trent Williams of Oklahoma, Anthony Davis of Rutgers, and Bryan Bulga of Iowa.
And from best to worst I would pick them in that order. No QB could survive back in that pocket of ours that our OL creates, so therefore build that before you get the skilled position players.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;609940]Ok to be honest, I think that all the QB's in this years draft aren't THE ANSWER, and the only one that I think is the ANSWER, keeps hurting his shoulder so much that he may not even declare for the draft this year (Sam Bradford). Clausen will be the next Ryan Leaf, IMO. McCoy looks like a system QB. Same thing for Tebow. Zack Robinson looked decent the one game I saw him play, but that was last year, and from what I've heard he isn't projected to be a good NFL QB. Jevan Sneads got an arm, but isn't accurate and isn't good at all with his awful OL, so why would he be good here? Tony Pike makes some pretty bad mistakes, and when I watched him against USF, he threw at least 2 passes that should have been picks. He's a very poor mans Flacco, but not worth a first rounder at all, IMO. Dan LeFlevour is a great running QB, but definitley isn't a first rounder, he's shaky at passing.

So with all that said, our first round pick must be a LT. That leaves Russell Okung of Oklahoma State, Trent Williams of Oklahoma, Anthony Davis of Rutgers, and Bryan Bulga of Iowa.
And from best to worst I would pick them in that order. No QB could survive back in that pocket of ours that our OL creates, so therefore build that before you get the skilled position players.[/quote]

Wow, big change of philosophy from your "I want to team to lose so we can pick up Tim Tebow/McCoy/or any other QB" days. Kudos.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;609848]Either Bradford or McCoy would be great - strong arms, fairly mobile, both are pretty good at going through their reads. My personal opinion is that McCoy is a little better.[/quote]

No way I want either player unless Bradford drops to the second round.

This QB class stinks.

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These QBs are system guys on NCAA powerhouse squads. They are mostly built on hype, as they are surrounded with loads of talent. SHoot it would be hard for Teebow not to look great when your team is averaging over 300 yards rushing a game. That is one helluva line in Gainsesville, same with Bradford in Norman. Do you really want to draft a guy with a bum shoulder anyway? As for Clausen and Notre Dame? I wouldn't touch a ND QB for the life of me. They play a couple decent teams a year and that is it. Not saying ND stinks, but they would be a 4-6 loss team if they were in the SEC, PAC 10, or Big 12. The guys you draft are like the Bradys, McNabbs, Flaccos, and Ryans. The guys that are very good in college, but don't garner the ridiculous amount of coverage in the media.

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I'm on the "draft McCoy" bandwagon.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;611092]I'm on the "draft McCoy" bandwagon.[/quote]

Ah, the Snyder bandwagon. I'm on the "draft a fucking lineman" bandwagon.

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[quote=Ruhskins;611098]Ah, the Snyder bandwagon. I'm on the "draft a fucking lineman" bandwagon.[/quote]Save a seat for me on the DAFL bandwagon too!!!

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Eff a QB. Draft an [B][I]offensive line[/I][/B]!

:soapbox:

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[quote=GusFrerotte;611087]These QBs are system guys on NCAA powerhouse squads. They are mostly built on hype, as they are surrounded with loads of talent. SHoot it would be hard for Teebow not to look great when your team is averaging over 300 yards rushing a game. That is one helluva line in Gainsesville, same with Bradford in Norman. Do you really want to draft a guy with a bum shoulder anyway? As for Clausen and Notre Dame? I wouldn't touch a ND QB for the life of me. They play a couple decent teams a year and that is it. Not saying ND stinks, but they would be a 4-6 loss team if they were in the SEC, PAC 10, or Big 12. [B]The guys you draft are like the Bradys, McNabbs, Flaccos, and Ryans. The guys that are very good in college, but don't garner the ridiculous amount of coverage in the media.[/B][/quote]

John Skelton

[url=http://www.stargazette.com/article/20091017/SPORTS/910170367/1119/Fordham+QB+guts+Cornell]Fordham QB guts Cornell | stargazette.com | Star-Gazette[/url]

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/web/COM1159785/index.htm]Tony Pauline: Top '10 draft prospects on offense - 09.03.09 - SI Vault[/url]

And with the right coaching, I think Rusty Smith could be a sleeper as well

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[quote=GusFrerotte;611087]These QBs are system guys on NCAA powerhouse squads. They are mostly built on hype, as they are surrounded with loads of talent. SHoot it would be hard for Teebow not to look great when your team is averaging over 300 yards rushing a game. That is one helluva line in Gainsesville, same with Bradford in Norman. Do you really want to draft a guy with a bum shoulder anyway? As for Clausen and Notre Dame? I wouldn't touch a ND QB for the life of me. They play a couple decent teams a year and that is it. Not saying ND stinks, but they would be a 4-6 loss team if they were in the SEC, PAC 10, or Big 12. The guys you draft are like the Bradys, McNabbs, Flaccos, and Ryans. The guys that are very good in college, but don't garner the ridiculous amount of coverage in the media.[/quote]

Wasn't Joey T a ND QB?

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I dont like either of these guys. Get a OT, we will be in the top 5 picks so he should be a beast.

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[quote=SmootSmack;611465]John Skelton

[url=http://www.stargazette.com/article/20091017/SPORTS/910170367/1119/Fordham+QB+guts+Cornell]Fordham QB guts Cornell | stargazette.com | Star-Gazette[/url]

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/web/COM1159785/index.htm]Tony Pauline: Top '10 draft prospects on offense - 09.03.09 - SI Vault[/url]

And with the right coaching, I think Rusty Smith could be a sleeper as well[/quote]

Do you think Skelton would slide to the second round?

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;611472]Wasn't Joey T a ND QB?[/quote]
yes, he was second string behind Montana

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;611472]Wasn't Joey T a ND QB?[/quote]


Joey T was a ND QB when ND was a true powerhouse. After they canned Devine as HC they went downhill. Lou Holtz brought them back, but the idiots canned him also and it has really been downhill ever since. The teams ND played perenially like Michigan, Mich St, Pittsburgh, the academies were all strong or respectable opponents back then. Now that group is not so hot. Weiss is a decent coach, but playing shitty opponents doesn't impress me. The Big Ten is weak this year. Iowa and Penn State are the front runners now. MIch and OSU are flawed and would be 4-6 loss teams in the SEC or Big 12.