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ILB - London Fletcher
ILB - HB Blades
OLB - Chris Wilson
OLB - Brian Orakpo

DE - Albert Haynesworth
NT - Kemo
DE - Golston

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DE-Daniels
NT-Montgomery
DE-Golston

OLB-Alexander
ILB-Henson
ILB-Fletcher
OLB-Orakpo

I don't think Carter, Haynesworth, or McIntosh are on the roster. I Don't think Kemo will be able to play when the season starts. I can see a 2nd round D-line player taken, and another FA pick-up when rosters get trimmed.

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RDE - Carriker
NT - Kemo
LDE - Daniels

LOLB - Wilson
ILB - Fletch
ILB - McIntosh
ROLB - Orakpo

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Anybody know how Rob Jackson fits it? He's listed as a DE at 6'4", 269.

OLB or 3-4 DE?

When you're talking about inside linebackers, I'm reminded of a guy we drafted back in 2005 -- Robert McCune. He looked bulky enough for that position. He hasn't played much though; he's with the Ravens now. Seems like we've taken lots of linebackers over the last 3 or 4 drafts. Not many have panned out.

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[quote=Beemnseven;689358]Anybody know how Rob Jackson fits it? He's listed as a DE at 6'4", 269.

OLB or 3-4 DE?

When you're talking about inside linebackers, I'm reminded of a guy we drafted back in 2005 -- Robert McCune. He looked bulky enough for that position. He hasn't played much though; he's with the Ravens now. Seems like we've taken lots of linebackers over the last 3 or 4 drafts. Not many have panned out.[/quote]

Robert Jackson is another of those players considered a tweener in the jugle between LB & DE. in a 3-4 scheme. He has not played a lot in the time he's been here and one has to wonder where he fits in. With Daniels being the exeption, the DE's on the roster do not possess the bulk to play consistently at the position.

I agree about the LB's we've drafted that for whatever reasons didn't pan out. I have been more concerned about continuing to draft QB's who have little chance of competing as opposed to using the pick on a position player.

I agree with Dirtbags lineup providing Kemo is healthy and ready to go.

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Carter, Donald Butler (Kentucky), Fletcher, Orakpo
Haynesworth, Nate Collins (Virginia), Daniels

My logic here is that the 'Skins trade Campbell and McIntosh for 2nd and 3rd rounders.

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OLB-Chris Wilson
ILB-London Fletcher
ILB-Brandon Spikes
OLB-Brian Orakpo

DE-Albert Haynesworth
NT-Phillip Daniels
DE-Adam Carriker

(answer completely subject to change)

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[quote=SmootSmack;689383]OLB-Chris Wilson
ILB-London Fletcher
ILB-Brandon Spikes
OLB-Brian Orakpo

DE-Albert Haynesworth
NT-Phillip Daniels
DE-Adam Carriker

(answer completely subject to change)[/quote]

I like your projected lineup far better than an of the others that have been posted, so far. I particularly like the DL. Very creative putting Daniels at NT. Haynesworth, Daniels, Kemo, and Carriker would be some very bad men on the DL.

Wilson and Orakpo at OLB would nothing but trouble for opposing QB's. I also think that Jarvis and Alexander would be decent as pass rushing LB's. AC may still be in the mix, but I think that he'll probably be traded.

I just can't see this defense doing anything positive without Albert Haynesworth, so any projected Redskins lineup that doesn't have him in it fails my litmus test. Personally, I couldn't care less if Shanahan and Haynesworth don't like each other. Most of us have worked with people we don't like. So that's no big deal.

I think that Shanahan should keep Big Al, put up with Big Al's b.s., try to win him over, and know that, with him, we can dominate other teams on the LOS for years to come.

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[quote=SmootSmack;689383]OLB-Chris Wilson
ILB-London Fletcher
ILB-Brandon Spikes
OLB-Brian Orakpo

DE-Albert Haynesworth
NT-Phillip Daniels
DE-Adam Carriker

(answer completely subject to change)[/quote]

probably more thinking out of the box than anyone else

Daniels at NT hmmm.. well they told him he could get up to 320 as a DE but haven't seen him say anything about NT.. I'll see if I can get a response on his FB

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[quote=SmootSmack;689383]OLB-Chris Wilson
ILB-London Fletcher
ILB-Brandon Spikes
OLB-Brian Orakpo

DE-Albert Haynesworth
NT-Phillip Daniels
DE-Adam Carriker

(answer completely subject to change)[/quote]

I could see this happening. At least until Kemo is healthy enough to get in the mix. You could really mix it up and keep it fresh with the other guys we have substituting. I think Wilson makes the most sense right now at the OLB spot opposite Orakpo. Spikes has fell considerably in the draft so we could easily have a shot at him.

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OLB / Alexander
OLB / Orakpo
ILB / Brandon Spikes
ILB / Fletcher
DE / Daniels
DE / Golston
NT / Kemo

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[quote=SmootSmack;689383]OLB-Chris Wilson
ILB-London Fletcher
ILB-Brandon Spikes
OLB-Brian Orakpo

DE-Albert Haynesworth
NT-Phillip Daniels
DE-Adam Carriker

(answer completely subject to change)[/quote]

I'm going with yours, but I'm tweaking it a lil..

Carriker DE Kemo NT Gholston DE

same LBS

but maybe we draft a George Selvie, Dexter Davis, Koa Misi, Arthur Moats to replace Wilson...

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DE - Phillip Daniels
NT - Kemo
DE - Jarmon

OLB - Wilson
ILB - L. Alexander
ILB - Fletcher
OLB - Rak

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OLB- Thomas
OLB- Orakpo
ILB- Flecther
ILB- Blades? The other ILB is another position that I think is completely up in the air.

DE- AH ( I really hope this guy is on the team )
NT- Kemo/Carriker
DE- Daniels

Can Jarmon play an inside backer position in the 3-4. I have read alot of posts trying to sum up the 3-4, but I am having a hard time understanding it.

Not going to come on here and pretend I even know what I am talking about.

I really think that SS knows alot more about what is going on here about the scheme the Redskins Defense is going to run.

I could see the team playing a 4-3 60% of the time. But even then we will be playing nickel and dime at points, so I would imagine that you would run a 4-2-5 (Nickel) and 3-3-5 at times. And maybe a 1-5-5. Just for fun!

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[quote=SmootSmack;689383]OLB-Chris Wilson
ILB-London Fletcher
ILB-Brandon Spikes
OLB-Brian Orakpo

DE-Albert Haynesworth
NT-Phillip Daniels
DE-Adam Carriker

(answer completely subject to change)[/quote]

the things i would do to have Brandon Spikes on our team... whichever team takes him is going to get great value for their pick.

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Smoot why do you believe that Brandon Spikes will fall to us? I really don't see how we will have a chance to draft him. He is projected any where from the 1st to 3rd round. I really don't believe the guy will make it out of the 1st round.

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I see him as more likely a mid to late 3rd rounder, and when all is said and done I think we'll have that pick to be able to take Spikes. But I'm just purely guessing here

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Is his draft status dropping because of his poor showing at the combine and his off field issues?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;689332]ILB - London Fletcher
ILB - HB Blades
OLB - Chris Wilson
OLB - Brian Orakpo

DE - Albert Haynesworth
NT - Kemo
DE - Golston[/quote]

I have no idea what Shanny will do but this is the lineup that I believe gives us the best chance to stuff the run. Except Daniels should start over Golston on run downs...Golston should be rotated to relieve Daniels and Haynesworth.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;689332]ILB - London Fletcher
ILB - HB Blades
OLB - Chris Wilson
OLB - Brian Orakpo

DE - Albert Haynesworth
NT - Kemo
DE - Golston[/quote]

LDE-Golston
NT-Kemo
RDE-Haynesworth

LOLB-Carter(he'll probably start because of his veteran status but i think Wilson will play more and eventually become the starter)
WILB-Rocky (they gotta work something out, i don't think Rocky really wants outta here b/c all he would have to do is skip OTAs and not tell Shanahan)
SILB-Fletcher
ROLB-Orakpo

*If Rocky is traded then it would make sense to play Blades as the SILB and Fletcher at the WILB

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;689533]Is his draft status dropping because of his poor showing at the combine and his off field issues?[/quote]

Poor 40 time. Ran something like a 5.0. Combine that with the character issues and you see teams much more hesitant to spend an early round pick on a guy like Spikes.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-haden_improves_40_time_spikes_runs_slowly_html-2010317]Haden improves 40 time, Spikes runs slowly - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]
[quote]According to TFY Draft Preview, his unofficial times were a 5.02 and a 5.08.[/quote]

It is an interesting parallel though. The last time Shanahan drafted a problem child from Florida in the fourth round who was expected to go higher was Marcus Thomas the DT in 2007. So far he's been average at best.

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1st off ... Kindoy your SIG is retarted, what's a name have anything to do with performance? Anyways the only way we get spikes is if we trade someone (haynesworth) to get back into the 2nd rd. No way he falls to the 3rd especially looking at his overall skills as a lb.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;689560]1st off ... Kindoy your SIG is retarted, what's a name have anything to do with performance? Anyways the only way we get spikes is if we trade someone (haynesworth) to get back into the 2nd rd. No way he falls to the 3rd especially looking at his overall skills as a lb.[/quote]

And no way anyone wants ah at the current cost.

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[quote=hooskins;689562]And no way anyone wants ah at the current cost.[/quote]

What? $3 or $5 million a year for a premier DT?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;689332]ILB - London Fletcher
ILB - HB Blades
OLB - Chris Wilson
OLB - Brian Orakpo

DE - Albert Haynesworth
NT - Kemo
DE - Golston[/quote]

Honestly. I believe yours is the most likely. I'd love to see Rocky back but Blades has the potential to be a quality starter. He's like a young, inexperienced version of London Fletcher. He won't end up AS GREAT as Fletch, but he's a good replacement plan for the future.

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So right now it seems...

ILB - Fletch
ILB - Blades (I hope we get better than this)
OLB - Orakpo
OLB - Wilson/Alexander

DE - Haynesworth
NT - Kemo/Green/Monty/Who Knows
DE - Carriker

I like Phillip Daniels, but I'd rather have him as a back up DE.

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[quote=Ruhskins;690580]So right now it seems...

ILB - Fletch
ILB - Blades (I hope we get better than this)
OLB - Orakpo
OLB - Wilson/Alexander

DE - Haynesworth
NT - Kemo/Green/Monty/Who Knows
DE - Carriker

I like Phillip Daniels, but I'd rather have him as a back up DE.[/quote]

Looking good to me. If we can add Rocky back into the LB mix, I'm very happy with the D.

The only real weakness on the D could be Free Safety...but Horton could fill that need, right? If not, perhaps Kareem Moore?

CB seems strong with Hall and Rogers backed up by Buchanon and Barnes.

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[quote=Buster;690595]Looking good to me. If we can add Rocky back into the LB mix, I'm very happy with the D.

The only real weakness on the D could be Free Safety...but Horton could fill that need, right? If not, perhaps Kareem Moore?

CB seems strong with Hall and Rogers backed up by Buchanon and Barnes.[/quote]

If healthy, we could pick up Darren Sharper.

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[quote=Buster;689894]Honestly. I believe yours is the most likely. I'd love to see Rocky back but Blades has the potential to be a quality starter. He's like a young, inexperienced version of London Fletcher. He won't end up AS GREAT as Fletch, but he's a good replacement plan for the future.[/quote]

Just for the record a lot of you have commented on me starting Blades at ILB, mostly positively. Just to clarify this prediction is based mainly on a scouting report I read that said the following:

[quote]Comment: Blades had a very solid year in his second season with the Redskins. He plays with good pad level and [B]power attacking[/B] the line of scrimmage.[/quote]

If this assesment from scouts Inc is accurate then I think Blades would be a better fit. As most of you already know in playing ILB in a 3-4 you need to be able to deal with interior lineman since they will be more likely to reach you in a 3-4.

This suggest that Blades is strong enough to hold his own in that situation. Scouts Inc also suggested that Rocky might need to be covered up to be effective and if thats true then I think Blades would be the better fit. Of course Rocky did play well last year at the SAM position if I recall correctly. So who knows, maybe we actually do have some pretty good depth at ILB.

In the meantime can someone clarify Rocky playing SAM linebacker last year?

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As I said in post #25, I am confident that Blades can be a quality starter. He's a lot like Fletcher in physical makeup and skillset. I hope he plays as hard as Fletcher and becomes the player he could potentially be.

When I say I want McIntosh back, it's mainly for depth. He has a lot of talent and can fit in somewhere. Beyond our starters, we're very thin at LB.

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[quote=Ruhskins;690596]If healthy, we could pick up Darren Sharper.[/quote]

He'd be useful for 2 years tops, but yeah, could help us in this apparent "win now" project.

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I've seen a few comments about safeties, Lendy Holmes is a reliable safety and a great back up/special teamer. I think we are fine for this year with safeties.

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[quote=SmootSmack;689383]OLB-Chris Wilson
ILB-London Fletcher
ILB-Brandon Spikes
OLB-Brian Orakpo

DE-Albert Haynesworth
NT-Phillip Daniels
DE-Adam Carriker

(answer completely subject to change)[/quote]C'mon Smoot'!

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[quote=Buster;690609]As I said in post #25, I am confident that Blades can be a quality starter. He's a lot like Fletcher in physical makeup and skillset. I hope he plays as hard as Fletcher and becomes the player he could potentially be.

When I say I want McIntosh back, it's mainly for depth. He has a lot of talent and can fit in somewhere. Beyond our starters, we're very thin at LB.[/quote]

???

Are you talking about the HB Blades that's on our team?

I don't think I'm seeing the same thing you are when he steps on the field. He's hardly someone I'd feel comfortable on the starting 11.

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[quote=DIRTEE;690654]I've seen a few comments about safeties, Lendy Holmes is a reliable safety and a great back up/special teamer. I think we are fine for this year with safeties.[/quote]

How about Horton and Landry starting?

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I agree, I liked Horton's intensity & his talent for "being-in-the-right-place" and then making plays. A couple of bad plays (ie. highlight reel touchdown pass interference)... But hopefully a year older & wiser (?) may produce a quality safety..

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The Skins may still grab Donte Whitner from Buffalo to play FS. Campbell could be involved.

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How can anyone say were okay at Safety? We have no true FS (after Taylor passed) and 3 decent Strong Safeties. It's absolutely foolish for anyone to think that Horton and Landry will both be starting opening day.

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If the team goes to a [B]Cover-2 Defense[/B], they could better utilize [U]Horton and Landry [/U]together. Of course, both of them would be responsible for deep coverage on their side of the field. Picking up a speedy linebacker who can cover would be huge.....hint....[B]Jamar Chaney[/B]...hint..hint.
That's my hope at least, that would help out if they do go to a Cover 2 'D', or a [B]Redskin-2 Defense[/B].

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LDE - Daniels/Golston

NT - Kemoeatu/Monty/Green

RDE - Carriker/Alexander

LOLB - Carter/Wilson

LILB - Spikes/Blades

RILB - Fletcher/Blades

ROLB - Orakpo/Jarmon