OK..BYE's are over: Time to keep track of our Playoff hopes thread
 

[B]WHAT REDSKINS NEED TO WIN DIVISION!
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Eagles 7-4 (2-1 Division) Texans,@Cowboys,@Giants,Vikings,Cowboys
Giants 7-4 (1-2 Division) Redskins,@Vikings,Eagles,@Packers,@Redskins
Redskins 5-6 (2-1 Division) @Giants,Bucs,@Cowboys,@Jags,Giants
Cowboys 3-8 (1-2 Division) @Colts.Eagles,Redskins,@Cardinals,@Eagles

The Redskins can still win the Division at 10-6...9-7...or even 8-8 by the numbers
We need the Eagles and Giants to win no more,than 3 more games to have a shot.

For the Redskins to get a 6th seed,they would need the Packers and Bucs to end the season with the same record as Redskins or worse. (Redskins beat Bucs)
Be it 10-6,9-7 or even 8-8.

and be behind the NFC East Divisional winner in 2nd place.
They would then own the tiebreakers and get the very last spot.

Redskins actually have a better shot now winning the Division,than getting a wildcard.

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Playoffs? PLAYOFFS??? You want to talk about PLAYOFFS?? We can't do diddly poo on either side of the ball.

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[quote=GMScud;759871]Playoffs? PLAYOFFS??? You want to talk about PLAYOFFS?? We can't do diddly poo on either side of the ball.[/quote]

If we can win 4 games in a row with Todd Collins,we can do the same with McNabb.
At least that's how I feel.

We can do what no NFC east team has done this season...beat the Titans.
We do that and were back at 5-5

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Sigh, why can't anyone just take it a week at a time here.

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[quote=SmootSmack;759874]Sigh, why can't anyone just take it a week at a time here.[/quote]

I have been since before the lions game Smoot...

It hasn't worked out too well for us buddy..

Going back to my "Hope for the future" scenarios
but completely bypassing the 3-game outlooks and diving right in it...

We need to change up something..lol

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[quote=SmootSmack;759874]Sigh, why can't anyone just take it a week at a time here.[/quote]

I guess we just don't believe in it.

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[quote=SmootSmack;759874]Sigh, why can't anyone just take it a week at a time here.[/quote]

Seriously. If there's one thing being a Redskins fan has taught he, it's that expectations are simply premeditated resentments. Just go into each week hoping to find a win.

Playoff speculations at this point are pretty funny IMO. It would be different if this team were showing any glimpses of getting better.

And Ace, McNabb has thrown 11 picks in his last 8 games. I'd almost rather Collins at this point (sarcasm, but still).

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[IMG]http://www.mediabistro.com/unbeige/files/original/my%20head%20hurts.jpg[/IMG]

sneak peek of me reading this thread

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[quote=GMScud;759871]Playoffs? PLAYOFFS??? You want to talk about PLAYOFFS?? We can't do diddly poo on either side of the ball.[/quote]

If this continues I'm going to demand my money back.

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[quote=aceinthehouse;759873]If we can win 4 games in a row with Todd Collins,we can do the same with McNabb.
At least that's how I feel.[/quote]

One slight problem, Shanahan is no Gibbs. I'm not saying that it can't be done, what I worry about is the defense.

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Coach Mora, tell us how you feel about this thread...

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We need Chad Dukes to respond to this thread.

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Ace.............I actually like your post. It gives me hope for a second, then reality smacks me in the face.........then.......i'm depressed again. Ace don't listen to these pessimistic haters. Its very clicky around here. Like high school. Theres a group that sticks together and gangs up on newbies. They're like bullies!!!!!!!!!! J/K Your post are ridiculous.......haha im kidding

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This thread is a 4 on the Kinsey Scale

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;759925]Ace.............I actually like your post. It gives me hope for a second, then reality smacks me in the face.........then.......i'm depressed again. Ace don't listen to these pessimistic haters. Its very clicky around here. Like high school. Theres a group that sticks together and gangs up on newbies. They're like bullies!!!!!!!!!! J/K Your post are ridiculous.......haha im kidding[/quote]

Yes, I'm a heretic of the fan religion. Apparently, being like an alcoholic is the thing that will save our souls and help us reach fan heaven, aka a championship.

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;759925]Ace.............I actually like your post. It gives me hope for a second, then reality smacks me in the face.........then.......i'm depressed again. Ace don't listen to these pessimistic haters. Its very clicky around here. Like high school. Theres a group that sticks together and gangs up on newbies. They're like bullies!!!!!!!!!! J/K Your post are ridiculous.......haha im kidding[/quote]

Are you kidding about kidding or about kidding:confused-.:joke: Do you need to meet out back after school to sort this out:boxing:? And just who are you calling a pessimistic hater?:angry-smi They are just Real folk with Real thoughts about this team:blah:.

don't the emoticons make it cool!!!:pimp:

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[quote=aceinthehouse;759867]In trouble and at 4-5
We will now need some help to get in most likely and I'm not giving up!

[B]Week 11[/B]
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Thursday Night: Chicago @ [COLOR=paleturquoise]Miami[/COLOR]
[B]We need the Bears to go 6-4 [/B]
[COLOR=silver]Detroit[/COLOR] @ Dallas
[B]We will need help from Dallas later,so lets put the end to Dallas now at 8 losses[/B]
Green Bay at [COLOR=purple]Minny[/COLOR]
[B]We need a Packers loss like the Bears,so they too can be 6-4[/B]
Arizona @[COLOR=red] K.C.[/COLOR]
[B]Don't want Raiders in Playoffs because of the JC factor and I live in MO and like the Chiefs,plus we want only one team out of NFC West for sure[/B]
[COLOR=darkred]Washington[/COLOR] @ Tennessee
[B]We need to start winning![/B]
[COLOR=silver]Seattle[/COLOR] @ N.O
[B]Seattle winning helps us more. Keeps the Saints & Seattle at 6 wins with a loss here by Saints[/B]
[COLOR=red]Atlanta[/COLOR] @ St.Louis
[B]Falcons are making the playoffs. They already have 7 wins and we aren't catching them. So we need them to bury the Rams to help us. But don't panic if the falcons tank..Not all bad either if this somehow happened[/B]
Tampa bay @ [COLOR=red]Niners[/COLOR]
[B]This would be huge for us,if this happens. Specially with a game coming up against Tampa for us[/B]
[COLOR=blue]Giants[/COLOR] @[COLOR=seagreen] Philly[/COLOR]
[B]Take your pick! Both are 1-1 in the division & 6-3 overall. I actually believe an Eagles victory might help us more,but I'm not a 100 % sure on this yet. Either way...these two still play again. I'll be rooting for Tuck or Osi to send Vick to Injured Reserve either way...Sorry,that's just how i feel about all this,but I also have 4 dogs.[/B]

I'll keep this updated every week,to see what we need guys. (at least until we are mathematically eliminated)
Just be prepared to be rooting for teams you didn't think you would be and against teams who may be in it at the end,we didn't think would be. Specially as the season winds down. That's all for now....[/quote]

:postcop::postcop::postcop::postcop:

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;759945]Are you kidding about kidding or about kidding:confused-.:joke: Do you need to meet out back after school to sort this out:boxing:? And just who are you calling a pessimistic hater?:angry-smi They are just Real folk with Real thoughts about this team:blah:.

don't the emoticons make it cool!!!:pimp:[/quote]

I suggest that you go back the 80s, because that's when such an attitude was justified. We were top dogs, not we just think we're the shits because we make every game 50/50.

After all, it's obvious that no team has a probability of 1 that they'll win a games, but anything over 60% for this team is for the delusional fellas like yourself.

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Can we all call for a:grouphug: The Skins got crushed, we aren't who some of us thought we were. All in all, I just want to lighten the mood a little.

After Monday, no one in their right mind can think of this team as any more than a low grade playoff entry at best, and a top 10 pick team at worst. We all are Skins fans regardless of if we lean more toward the koolaid or real.

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We just surrendered an NFL record of most points scored by a visiting team in the first half of a game. Not really ready to review playoff scenarios. I'm kinda just hoping we don't get embarrased Sunday.

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[quote=Mattyk;759901][IMG]http://www.mediabistro.com/unbeige/files/original/my%20head%20hurts.jpg[/IMG]

sneak peek of me reading this thread[/quote]


LOL....got to admit it, this one got to me!

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[quote=GMScud;759871]Playoffs? PLAYOFFS??? You want to talk about PLAYOFFS?? We can't do diddly poo on either side of the ball.[/quote]

That was my exact first thought when I saw this thread title. We're 4-5 and just coming off getting blown out 59-28, and you want to talk about playoffs? It might be nice to be that optimistic Ace, but you really gotta hold your breath on this one. Let's take things one week at a time, we gotta see major improvement on both sides of the ball before playoffs even come into the conversation.

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Ace - we got some old goats on here who have seen and witnessed alot of trial and tribulation as skins fan. i cant speak for them but for myself, keep up the optimism and enthusiam buddy! this old goat appreciates a kick in the ass sometimes.

go skins!

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This thread is a 4 on the Kinsey Scale

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To get to the playoffs, I expected more from the defense. Of course I expected more from the offense, too! When do we start getting it?

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I would say something negative about this thread, but last time I got on ace's post, CRR got all over my ass. I think CRedskinsRule is ace's big brother or something. ;) Actually what the heck... we're going to the playoff's. YOUR DREAMING!!!!! well maybe....

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I know I am new to this site, but I have been a redskins fan for going on 30 years.

I am not in any means taking sides on the back and forth banter going on, just adding my opinion.

To THINK about playoffs is good, to TALK about the playoffs makes you LOOK like you are looking at the world of the NFL through magical glasses.

Now I would LOVE to see the skins win out and make the playoffs, and yes we would need some help to get in, but BEFORE we worry about what help we will need, we first HAVE to win. I don't care if the rest of the NFC lost the rest of their games (which I know isn't possible because Divisional and Conference games) we still wouldn't make the playoffs if WE don't win.

Lets worry about one win at a time

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The West is putrid, 8-8 could win it. The North is weak this year, only GB has a chance. Only the NFC South looks good...on paper. TB is outplaying their talent. NO is not what they were.

There COULD be 3 NFC East playoff teams again and we know Dallas won't be one.

Still hope!

Not a lot, but we're far from dead. The second-half schedule looks a LOT easier than the first half with Indy, GB, Houston, etc.

A little early to start the playoff scenarios and who needs to lose to help us...but it was going to happen anyways. I'll watch it.

Realistically, I think we'll finish 8-8 and that's a big step forward from last season and a successful first-year of a massive transition. Still pulling for a playoff run though. We've run off 5 in a row to make the postseason before...with less talent on the roster than now.

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Lots of reasons why we could have lost as bad as we did the other night...

Didn't prepare well enough during bye
distraction of the Mcnabb benching festering for 2 weeks
Mcnabb contract extension
and so on...

Everything has settled down I hope with all of this.

If we can come out and play hard against the titans,who themselves got beat good by Miami...
We have a shot to do what no NFC East team has done this year and that's beat them

This gets us back to 5-5
with Minny at home next whom themselves have a locker room situation of their own...

Then the biggie at the *new* meadowlands afterwords...

This team needs one of those infamous "team meetings",so hopefully they can get back on track.

One thing we do know...the Eagles or Giants are going to have 4 losses this weekend.
We can do this...

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11 Sun, Nov 21 Tennessee Titans @ Tennessee (5-4) 1:00 pm EST
[B]12 Sun, Nov 28 Minnesota Vikings vs Minnesota (3-6) 1:00 pm EST [/B]
13 Sun, Dec 5 New York Giants @ NY Giants (6-3) 1:00 pm EST
14 Sun, Dec 12 Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs Tampa Bay (6-3) 1:00 pm
[B]15 Sun, Dec 19 Dallas Cowboys @ Dallas (2-7) 1:00 pm EST
16 Sun, Dec 26 Jacksonville Jaguars @ Jacksonville (5-4) 1:00 pm EST[/B]
17 Sun, Jan 2 New York Giants vs NY Giants (6-3) 1:00 pm EST

Minnesota, Dallas and Jacksonville SHOULD be wins.
We should split the Giants.
Tampa Bay is not as good as their record.
Tennessee this week is a winnable game.

These remaining games are all winnable, none of the games scare me like a few in the first half, but realistically we'll probably drop one of the Giants games. The Titans are the best remaining team, I don't buy into the Bucs.

We CAN do it...we just need to get things going fast.

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Bears win. Not good
They now have 7 wins...

Our best hope now,is for Minny to beat Green Bay Sunday and drop them to 6-4 now.
We now will probably need Green Bay to tank to have a real shot fellows.

But then this means we [B]MUST[/B] beat Minny to keep them out next week. (as well as this titans game)

It can be done...keep the faith.

I'll update this thread at the top,to keep us updated!

Lets beat those Titans 1st

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After losing two straight games, [the latter of which we had two weeks to prepare for] and still didn't show up, I'd be content just to win a game. Reality has a way of putting optimism in perspective and right now, reality has demonstrated we are not a very good football team. I agree with SS, one game at a time and forget the hypotheticals.

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I just don't see it happening ACE, 8-8 is more likely for us. Bears have a tough sched coming up but their 7-3. Green Bay is too good not to finish 10-6 or better. Falcons and saints will get in and unfortunately one of those west teams will make it at 8-8 probably. Eagles will win the East and NY will finish 9-7 at worst. Heck even TB has 6 wins. I'm a homer but I'm a realist also, we won't make the playoffs. D is horrible and our offense is still too inconsistent .

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[quote=skinsfaninok;760665]I just don't see it happening ACE, 8-8 is more likely for us. Bears have a tough sched coming up but their 7-3. Green Bay is too good not to finish 10-6 or better. Falcons and saints will get in and unfortunately one of those west teams will make it at 8-8 probably. Eagles will win the East and NY will finish 9-7 at worst. Heck even TB has 6 wins. I'm a homer but I'm a realist also, we won't make the playoffs. D is horrible and our offense is still too inconsistent .[/quote]

Oh I agree...it isn't looking too good.

My only hope is we find a way to play better on offense and our defense against the eagles was just an anomaly.

If our O-line can give Mcnabb enough time to make the big throws downfield,we might have a shot. We certainly have a good running game and with Williams and ATV are pretty good. Plus we will be getting Portis back who is a great blocker.

But regardless of how good or bad anybody thinks our defense is...if we don't score points,we ain't gonna do it.

and we [B]MUST[/B] improve our 3rd down %
We scored 28 points against the eagles and were like 0-12 or something like that on 3rd down in that game...

Imagine how good the offense [B]could[/B] be if we converted?

I will say this though...we are a hell of a lot more exciting now with Mcnabb.
We just need to pull it all together.

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[quote=aceinthehouse;760688]Oh I agree...it isn't looking too good.

My only hope is we find a way to play better on offense and our defense against the eagles was just an anomaly.

If our O-line can give Mcnabb enough time to make the big throws downfield,we might have a shot. We certainly have a good running game and with Williams and ATV are pretty good. Plus we will be getting Portis back who is a great blocker.

But regardless of how good or bad anybody thinks our defense is...if we don't score points,we ain't gonna do it.

[B]and we MUST improve our 3rd down %[/B]
We scored 28 points against the eagles and were like 0-12 or something like that on 3rd down in that game...

Imagine how good the offense [B]could[/B] be if we converted?

I will say this though...we are a hell of a lot more exciting now with Mcnabb.
We just need to pull it all together.[/quote]

Anybody else read this in yesterday's WaPo? Our 3rd down % is literally making history. [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/18/AR2010111806090.html]Washington Redskins failing on third-down conversions at historic rate[/url]

Kyle Shanny said "I've never been a part of anything like this." Anyone getting tired of hearing that stuff from coaches and players year in and year out? "I've never been around this before." "I've never experienced this kind of losing before." etc, etc. Seems like we hear it every year.

Just once in my adult life I don't want the Skins to be a big fail.

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[quote=Buster;760320]11 Sun, Nov 21 Tennessee Titans @ Tennessee (5-4) 1:00 pm EST
[B]12 Sun, Nov 28 Minnesota Vikings vs Minnesota (3-6) 1:00 pm EST [/B]
13 Sun, Dec 5 New York Giants @ NY Giants (6-3) 1:00 pm EST
14 Sun, Dec 12 Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs Tampa Bay (6-3) 1:00 pm
[B]15 Sun, Dec 19 Dallas Cowboys @ Dallas (2-7) 1:00 pm EST [/B]
[B]16 Sun, Dec 26 Jacksonville Jaguars @ Jacksonville (5-4) 1:00 pm EST[/B]
17 Sun, Jan 2 New York Giants vs NY Giants (6-3) 1:00 pm EST

Minnesota, Dallas and Jacksonville SHOULD be wins.
We should split the Giants.
[B]Tampa Bay is not as good as their record.[/B]
Tennessee this week is a winnable game.

These remaining games are all winnable, none of the games scare me like a few in the first half, but realistically we'll probably drop one of the Giants games. The Titans are the best remaining team, I don't buy into the Bucs.

We CAN do it...we just need to get things going fast.[/quote]

Yeah I'm done buying the whole "Tampa isn't as good as their record" thing. We're in week 10 now, and they're right in the hunt. They hung with Atlanta in the Georgia Dome down to the very end. They're a team on the rise.

We're playing like hot dog shit, and saying we "should" beat anyone at this point is a joke.

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^ I agree GM, I'm so done with losing every damn yr

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[quote=GMScud;760693]Yeah I'm done buying the whole "Tampa isn't as good as their record" thing. We're in week 10 now, and they're right in the hunt. They hung with Atlanta in the Georgia Dome down to the very end. They're a team on the rise.

We're playing like hot dog shit, and saying we "should" beat anyone at this point is a joke.[/quote]

Yeah! that was the last article I read before going to bed, after reading the Washington City Paper's article headlined: "The Cranky Redskin Fan's Guide to Dan Snyder".

It's time for this staff to understand, they're going to be held accountabe for the product they put on the field and take responsibiltty for it's end results. Three straight running plays to start the game against Philly, come on man.

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What's bothered me about shanahan (don't mean to get off topic)
is not the play calling from kyle/or him...but the personel decisions he's made.

[B]He originally cut Banks...[/B]yet,we got him back,but anyone could have claimed him off waivers and he'd be gone. I wouldn't be as critical about this,had banks not shown Crazy speed during the preseason,which the team desperately lacks already.
(did the same with ATV as well)
[B]
Roydell Williams and Galloway have been terrible[/B]. Moss wouldn't have been an upgrade? Hell,I would be ok with keeping D.Thomas over these 2 guys...At least he's young with good talent and bat route running.

[B]Then there's the benching of mcnabb[/B]

[B]Hayesworth situation[/B]

[B]The little use of the talent at TE[/B]. Does he know that Cooley is a probowler and Davis is very talented? Why doesn't he use these guy's in the red zone?
How about putting these 2 in on 3rd down since were 0-279 on 3rd down...lol

I'm sure there are others,but this has me very confused...

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BTW...

T.Austin has been promoted!! (YES)!!
[B]
[url=http://twitter.com/#!/john_keim/status/6055626505453568]Twitter[/url]
@john_keim John Keim
The #Redskins have promoted WR Terrence Austin, according to league source.
or
Chris Russel Chimes in: [url=http://twitter.com/#!/Russellmania09...57528676847619]Twitter[/url]

@Russellmania09
Chris Russell
Talked to Austin yesterday, thought it was possible, says he is thinking much less, #redskins will have 5 WR up, from what I know.

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