Moss on how Redskins must play now
 

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"And in order for us to do what we want to do, we've just got to stop worrying about what's been said and what's been done. Just go out and do what we can do right now. And until we do that, we won't be able to get ahead or get past some of the stuff that we're being dealt with right now."[/quote]Click the link for the rest.

Honestly, I don't even know why this article was written, the wild card standings aren't anything close to like they were in 2005 or 2007, we pretty much have to win out and have the NFC South and North lose out for us to make it, aint happening. Though if they could win out, it would look a hell of a lot better on paper and give them fuel for next season or the 2012 season.

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Moss has been here before. He obviously remembers how it was in 2005 when it was "5 in a row or we don't go".....

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I just don't feel this team has a channce. A major disappointment.

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He knows they aren't going to the playoffs with this team. But what else was he supposed to say?

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I think even Shanny realizes this team is .500 at best

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Shanny also realizes he shouldn't have came out of retirement to coach a losing team.

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I'll throw in a little optimism here.... Shanahan was able to look at all the players for a year, he should have known what he was in for being a HC for so many yrs, and he still chose to come here. The Skins have been a mess for over 10 yrs and because of that you can't change everything over night. Now having said that remember Shanahan helped the 49ers yrs ago get to the SB as a OC. Shanahan got hired by the Bronco's and his first yr there he was 8-8. After that he had mostly winning seasons, probably only 1 or 2 bad seasons.

Instead of looking to scrap everything already and yet again go in a different direction lets let this coaching staff play out their cards for more then a year to see if continuity will win out.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;764085]Shanny also realizes he shouldn't have came out of retirement to coach a losing team.[/quote]

Shanny didnt come out of retirement to keep guiding someone else's successful ship on the same course, he got back into coaching for the challenge of turning a losing organization like the Skins into winners.

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I'm still confused why Shanny didn't feel that bringing in Brian Westbrook would help this team.

While we were signing Johnson & Parker..I was saying sign Westbrook.
Him and McNabb have a good history with each other and Westbrook would have been great on what guys? 3rd down...

Mosley agrees as well..
NFC EAST Chat--Skins Tidbits...
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So, who should have the redskins brought in at rb instead?

Mosley: I don't know. Brian Westbrook looked pretty good to me last night. Not sure why they couldn't get that thing done. He would've been a much better fit that Johnson or Willie Parker because of his ability to help in the passing game. [/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE]do you think the redskins are capable of turning their season around and making the playoffs?

Mosley: It would be a great story, but i don't see it happening. They can pull an upset every now and then but they don't have the personnel to get hot and maintain a winning streak. You have to have a hot quarterback and an opportunistic defense. I really don't see either thing happening at this point in the season.
what are your thoughts on...Mike Shanahan's plan for 2011?

Mosley:...I think Shanahan has to revamp the offensive line. There's no way he can enter the season with Artie Hicks and the gang. Once he does that, he can sprinkle in a couple of wide receivers still in their 20s...
what do the redskins need to take away from this season, assuming they don't go on a magical run to the playoffs, and have they taken a big step forward this year?

Mosley: I think they've become competitive again for the most part. But then, they were in a lot of games last season, too. I do think shanny gives them a lot more credibility. I think the next step is to actually surround mcnabb with a few weapons. It's an embarrassment to send him out there with james davis and keiland williams. Shanny really hurt himself by heading into training camp with all those has-been rbs.
what is the more important next step for the skins: Getting mcnabb more weapons or shoring up the o-line?M

Mosley: I'd fix the 0-line first and then bring in the weapons. It's not like you need elite receivers. But you need someone better than joey galloway. Armstong's a nice player, but he shouldn't be starting in the league.
The real problem with the redskins running game has nothing to do with bringing Parker (who was cut in camp) and Johnson. They're long gone. Injuries to CP and Torain, and poor o-line play have far, far more to do with it.

Mosley: It has everything to do with leaving yourself vulnerable at a key position. Are you telling me that you knew torain was going to be a key figure going into training camp. No, Shanny has had to atone for his mistakes by rolling out all these no-names. And a lot of that has to do with how he approached the position. You couldn't see an injury to Clinton Portis coming? Really?
So, who should have the redskins brought in at rb instead?

Mosley: I don't know. Brian Westbrook looked pretty good to me last night. Not sure why they couldn't get that thing done. He would've been a much better fit that Johnson or Willie Parker because of his ability to help in the passing game.
hey.. In my opinion trent williams has been exactly what we expected. A talented rookie. Hes gonna have some good plays and some bad ones. But considreing who he's faced... Ware, mario, rams, cole, packers, freeney, peppers, vanden-bosch, etc. I think he has been somewhat exceptional. What have you seen???

[b]Mosley[/b: Love the way he's played this season. Very gifted athlete who has flourished in the zone-blocking scheme. He'll be a pro bowler next season. I really think that. Now he needs some help.
buy or sell: Brandon Banks is one of the top 5 punt returner in the NFL?

Mosley: I'm buying that. Banks has become one of the most electric players in the league in a short time. He's the poor man's Devin Hester from a few years ago. A threat to take it all the way at any moment. Now, if they can just get Perry Riley to stop blocking in the back.[/QUOTE]

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Santana should concentrate on catching the balls instead of dropping them and keep his mouth shut.

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[quote=aceinthehouse;764098]I'm still confused why Shanny didn't feel that bringing in Brian Westbrook would help this team.

While we were signing Johnson & Parker..I was saying sign Westbrook.
Him and McNabb have a good history with each other and Westbrook would have been great on what guys? 3rd down...

Mosley agrees as well..
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We did offer him a contract you know

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;764099]Santana should concentrate on catching the balls instead of dropping them and keep his mouth shut.[/quote]

Did he say something wrong??

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;764099]Santana should concentrate on catching the balls instead of dropping them and keep his mouth shut.[/quote]

This could be the last hurrah! for Santana anyway. This team needs to stop uttering the word playoffs and begin concentrating on what it needs to do to get better.

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[quote=Longtimefan;764108]This could be the last hurrah! for Santana anyway. This team needs to stop uttering the word playoffs and begin concentrating on what it needs to do to get better.[/quote]

Thank you! Well said. If the team makes the playoffs then that's great, if it doesn't then time to get rid of the old and ineffective players and rebuild through the draft, trades and smart FA signings.

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Did Moss or Rogers use the word playoffs?

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[quote=Longtimefan;764108]This could be the last hurrah! for Santana anyway. This team needs to stop uttering the word playoffs and begin concentrating on what it needs to do to get better.[/quote]

I agree, I think a lot of familiar faces will be gone this offseasn.

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Moss is still a quality player, he would be a nice #2.

He's on pace for 90 catches and 1,132 yards.

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The only ones who have mentioned anything about playoffs have been the overly optimistic (for just a short moment anyway) and the highly demanding fans who are just not realistic.

1. MS knows what he is doing. He was only out of coaching for one, maybe two seasons. He hasn't lost anything. He is not a miracle worker. My goodness, some of you people think the Redskins were 12-4 last year. THEY WERE 4-12! At least Shanny has already improved upon that stat! Geez... it takes time to build a team into a consistent winner. I would say that so far, this regime is doing everything promised. They have already put a very competitive team on the field. Much more so than a year ago! I don't remember Allen saying he was going to bring home a Super Bowl trophy in 2010, although that is always the goal to be sought after. He promised to bring the Redskins back to their glory days, and that don't happen overnight. I am as frustrated by the narrow losses as anybody else, but those are just things this team will have to endure before they get better.

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Let's not get too cocky with having ONE more win that we had last season. This offense is still woeful and the skins could easily tank and go 5-11.

I still say we will finish up at 8-8. Not a bad number for a team that will go into full rebuild mode.

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[quote=Mattyk;764128]Moss is still a quality player, he would be a nice #2.

He's on pace for 90 catches and 1,132 yards.[/quote]

I hope we try to extend him a couple years, add V Jackson and continue to develop Armstrong, pick up a #4 with a late draft pick....suddenly the WR corp is looking pretty tight. Moss always has played hard, said the right things, never injured and is generally a cool mf'er...like to keep players like him around

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[quote=SolidSnake84;764131]Let's not get too cocky with having ONE more win that we had last season. This offense is still woeful and the skins could easily tank and go 5-11.

I still say we will finish up at 8-8. Not a bad number for a team that will go into full rebuild mode.[/quote]

The point is, a lot of fans are disappointed and calling for heads to roll and a mass exodus of players out of Washington when it wasn't promised that this team would be a playoff team this year. It's a process that me, personally, I'm willing to be patient for since I know this team has talented coaches and a head coach who has two Super Bowl rings. Even if we had picked a fresh face coach, I would still give them a free pass the first year.

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Shanahan and Allen are bringing in better players than we had in the past, unfortunatley this team has had a lot of bad parts and it will take another year for the Skins to start being a winner week end and week out. It s a QB league and the Skins have a better than average one right now. What they don't have is an OL or a RB, due to injuries or lack of talent or whatever you want to call it. They need a few more pieces on Offense, but that's all they need, is a few more pieces. For some perspective however, look what the Skins did to the Titans now. Without Vince Young, who I say won't be coming back next year after his temper tantrum, they are starting completely over looking for a new QB. At least the Skins don't have to address that next year. On Defense Carlos Rogers and Fat Al need to go and they need an upgrade at a couple of DL positions and maybe another LB. Banks is great, and Gano is not a liability and I think he will get better.

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[quote=SmootSmack;764111]Did Moss or Rogers use the word playoffs?[/quote]

Probably more media driven than player. The local media is still trying to create scenarios how we can make the playoffs and continue to insinuate there's a way until we're mathematically eliminated. Playing the way we are, that will be shortly.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;764099]Santana should concentrate on catching the balls instead of dropping them and keep his mouth shut.[/quote]

I really hate reading posts like the above...
Did the guy do something wrong or was he just answering questions? Which were then turned into a story btw.


Anyways, let me just mention that we weren't playing well until the last 5 games of the season when we made our last two playoff runs. In other words if we were to turn it around it would be the same story.

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[quote=Mattyk;764128]Moss is still a quality player, he would be a nice #2.

He's on pace for 90 catches and 1,132 yards.[/quote]
At the moment, Moss is the ONLY semi-dependable reciever we have.

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Its hard for a team to run off 6 wins in a row when you cant score 21 points a game. Not happening.. 8-8 at best

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[quote=GreekSkin;764182]I really hate reading posts like the above...
Did the guy do something wrong or was he just answering questions? Which were then turned into a story btw.


Anyways, let me just mention that we weren't playing well until the last 5 games of the season when we made our last two playoff runs. In other words if we were to turn it around it would be the same story.[/quote]

Santana has always had the dropsies once in a while. It's a flaw in his game, and to put it under the rug is kinda lame when everyone can see it, i.e the Todd Collins pick because he let up, the EJ Henderson pick in which it bounced off of him. .

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Not exactly sure what you mean by put it under the rug? Did he avoid the question in the above article.

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Playoffs or not 8-8 is a huge success IMO. Big improvement from 4-12.

The bottom line is that Snyder and Cerrato's incompetence has finally caught up to the Skins...they severly lack talent at essentially all positions.

Hopefully Allen and Shanahan can turn it around by building through the draft and finding diamonds in the rough (Peyton Hillis), its going to take more than just a year or two to fix what Snyder and Cerrato have been breaking for the past decade.

I'm actually impressed Shanahan hs us at 5-6 with the schedule we've played and the talent level on the roster.

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Even if the Skins win-out they may not make the playoffs. Looking at the NFC there will definitely be at least one 10-6 team that doesn't make the playoffs.

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[quote=saden1;764205]Even if the Skins win-out they may not make the playoffs. Looking at the NFC there will definitely be at least one 10-6 team that doesn't make the playoffs.[/quote]

Sure looks that way. By the way, in an unrelated note, amazon.com us offering the whole BSG series today for $80

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The Skins don't deserve to make the playoffs this year anyway. We've had a crappy yet opportunistic defense and an offense in bad need of more o-line help, surrounded by a new quarterback and no name skill position players.

And I love how our fans are trying to run our decently talented guys like Santana Moss and Carlos Rogers out of town after this season, saying they aren't #1 wideouts (while guys like Moss are in the middle of 90 catch, 1000+ yard seasons), or they are worthless because they can't catch the football at a position that demands you don't let opposing players catch the football (like Carlos Rogers). Thank goodness we have actual competent football guys like Shanahan and Bruce Smith in place.

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[quote=mooby;764216]The Skins don't deserve to make the playoffs this year anyway. We've had a crappy yet opportunistic defense and an offense in bad need of more o-line help, surrounded by a new quarterback and no name skill position players.

And I love how our fans are trying to run our decently talented guys like Santana Moss and Carlos Rogers out of town after this season, saying they aren't #1 wideouts (while guys like Moss are in the middle of 90 catch, 1000+ yard seasons), or they are worthless because they can't catch the football at a position that demands you don't let opposing players catch the football (like Carlos Rogers). Thank goodness we have actual competent football guys like Shanahan and Bruce Smith in place.[/quote]

Bruce Smith?

Rogers is a good corner even though his dropped picks are brutal to watch

Moss is having a great year but he is not the #1 wideout on a legit playoff/championship contender....he probably wouldn't even be a top 2 WR on any other team in the division. Just my opinion.

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[quote=maroonandblack30;764227]Bruce Smith?

Rogers is a good corner even though his dropped picks are brutal to watch

Moss is having a great year but he is not the #1 wideout on a legit playoff/championship contender....he probably wouldn't even be a top 2 WR on any other team in the division. Just my opinion.[/quote]

Bruce Allen. Brain fart. Happens from time to time when your IQ is collectively dropped by all the idiotic posts on the board.

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I agree with those statements regarding Moss/Rogers .. they are both keepers and a part of the solution ... let's just see what happens, hopefully this team continue to play and fight hard .. we win some games ... have a great draft and sign a few under the radar FA's ...

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Moss can stay on the team, even as a #2 receiver he would still be very good. But this is still an O L D team that needs youth and i suspect alot of veteran players will be shed again this offseason.

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[quote=DCtoAZ;764315]I agree with those statements regarding Moss/Rogers .. they are both keepers and a part of the solution ... let's just see what happens, hopefully this team continue to play and fight hard .. we win some games ... have a great draft and sign a few under the radar FA's ...[/quote]

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