ESPN 980's Chris Russell: 75% Chance Skins release Big Al this week
 

I was just in the car on the way to the bank and heard ESPN980's Chris Russell call in to the Al Galdi Monday AM Quarterback show with the breaking news. One of Russell's sources inside Redskin's Park tells him there is at least a 75% chance the Skins flat our release Haynesworth this week. Wow.

Sorry, no link, just heard it on the radio less than 10 minutes ago.

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Mods- sorry, can you please add the word "chance" after 75% in the thread title? Thank you.

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Probably have no other choice becasue his trade value is like one item off the McDonald's Value Menu at this point.

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"release" or "waive?" I would think & hope for the latter. Thanks for the update.

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I wish that was a 100% chance he will be released. Sick of him, what a failed experiment.

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I heard it too. At this point it does no good to release him. I'd keep him here til is contract runs out or wait for another trade offer. Make him suffer.

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Found a link:

[URL="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/535936-breaking-news-washington-redskins-to-release-albert-haynesworth"]Washington Redskins to Release Albert Haynesworth | Bleacher Report[/URL]

It is pretty annoying we're going to flat out cut him, considering Tennessee reportedly offered us a 4th rounder for him. Another gaffe by Shanahan.

Now that this news is out, we won't get a side a rice pilaf for him.

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It might do some good for what Shanahan is trying to do. Have you ever been on a team of any kind with a malcontent? It's annoying, they complain all the time and they are contrary just to cause problems! I'd say cut him. This season is now pretty much over but at least we can go into the off-season with a better attitude if he is not on the team.

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I really hope this isn't going to happen.

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[quote=Jontrem;766019]It might do some good for what Shanahan is trying to do. Have you ever been on a team of any kind with a malcontent? It's annoying, they complain all the time and they are contrary just to cause problems! I'd say cut him. This season is now pretty much over but at least we can go into the off-season with a better attitude if he is not on the team.[/quote]

Oh it's certainly good for the culture of the team, but to get nothing for him after supposedly being offered a 4th rounder a month or so ago is bad on Shanahan's part. We're hurting for draft picks as it is.

But hey, for all intents and purposes we already flushed $30M+ down the toilet with this guy. What's another draft pick? :doh:

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When Shanahan wants a pet project to work, he's going to try to make it work no matter the cost. Sadly, he should have considered the costs, as we could have had much better value for Carter and Haynesworth than what we'll probably fetch now.

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[quote=GMScud;766023]Oh it's certainly good for the culture of the team, but to get nothing for him after supposedly being offered a 4th rounder a month or so ago is bad on Shanahan's part. We're hurting for draft picks as it is.

But hey, for all intents and purposes we already flushed $30M+ down the toilet with this guy. What's another draft pick? :doh:[/quote]

Well, as I recall it was conditional and it wasn't only for Big Al.

I'd be surprised if he's actually released before the end of the year, but I'd also be surprised if he plays another snap for the Skins.

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He clearly has to go, if not now then once the curtain falls on our season get him outta here.

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Shanahan is not going to let "fat Albert" have it his way which is releasing him, this way fat Albert wins. Shanahan will keep him on the roster and will handle it a different way, maybe come up with an injury and put him on IR. He will not be released, you think Shanahan wants him to catch on to a playoff bound team?

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[quote=GMScud;766018]Found a link:

[URL="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/535936-breaking-news-washington-redskins-to-release-albert-haynesworth"]Washington Redskins to Release Albert Haynesworth | Bleacher Report[/URL]

It is pretty annoying we're going to flat out cut him, considering Tennessee reportedly offered us a 4th rounder for him. [B]Another gaffe by Shanahan.[/B]

Now that this news is out, we won't get a side a rice pilaf for him.[/quote]

Consider Shanny's predicament, he's in his first year as coach/gm. He's got to change the dysfunctional culture of the team & at the same time make the most of the assets before him. Since AH agreed to take his $20 mil bonus & play in the 3-4 Shanahan had to commit to making things work & getting the most return on Snyder's huge investment (which Shan. & Allen didn't have any part in). Snyder will not be happy either way, but if Shan. shows that he made every effort to get him to buy in, at least he can tell the danny that AH had worn out his welcome.

Also, taking a one-sided trade offer is not good for future bargaining. He & Allen have to let the nfl know that the Skins are not going to do deals like Vinny did. So far they've been pretty good in that regard.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;766034]Shanahan is not going to let "fat Albert" have it his way which is releasing him, this way fat Albert wins. Shanahan will keep him on the roster and will handle it a different way, maybe come up with an injury and put him on IR. He will not be released, you think Shanahan wants him to catch on to a playoff bound team?[/quote]

I would like to see him "keyshawned".

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[quote=GMScud;766023]Oh it's certainly good for the culture of the team, but to get nothing for him after supposedly being offered a 4th rounder a month or so ago is bad on Shanahan's part. We're hurting for draft picks as it is.

But hey, for all intents and purposes we already flushed $30M+ down the toilet with this guy. What's another draft pick? :doh:[/quote]Shanahan completely mishandled this from the beginning of the season. If the guy was such a malcontent, you can either:

A) Accept whatever you can get in a trade, or if you aren't offered the value you desire,

B) Play the guy to build more acceptable trade value.

The first mistake was Snyderato giving the fat turd $30M+ in the first 15 months, but not accepting a 4th rounder, then deactivating Haynesworth in a third of the games is just plain stupid. In hindsight, cutting him for nothing on Sept 1st would have been far more productive than cutting him now.

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Chris Russell always spurns up some cockamany story that has no truthful backing to it. Fat Al is not going to be cut this far in to a season. They will wait till the offseason and try to get something for him. Shanahan tried to make it work, but Fat Al is a premadona and it was never going to work out for both sides.

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The sad thing is, mcnabb has played so poorly he probably has as much trade value as haynesworth does at this point (i.e. None)

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This is great news. This loser needs outta here on a 1st class ticket. The skins should have never signed this guy...last true mistake outta the cerrato era....

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Boot his fat ass out the door.

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Schefter is disputing the reports via twit, which I cannot link to from work.

Said MS would not do AH the favor of releasing him and that it won't happen this season.

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Releasing Albert Haynesworth won't solve this teams problems, and honestly at this point this mess is solely Shanahan's fault for keeping this drama going so long. Personally, I hope he gets released, because I'm tired of him and this situation. I know Tony Kornheiser rarely talks sports, but I happened to be listening to his show today and he said it best....either play the guy or get rid of him, plain and simple.

Personally, I don't buy the whole "he's trying to change the culture of the team"; to me this was a big fight between MS' ego and AH's stubbornness (to quote TK). If Mike Shanahan wants to change the culture of this team, he needs to find a way to motivate players, get rid of worthless players, and win some f*cking games. Making an example of Albert Haynesworth in front of the national media has done nothing for this team.

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Sources: Albert Haynesworth won't be released
By Jason Reid

Despite ongoing media speculation that defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth may be released soon, the Redskins do not plan to cut him, two people familiar with the situation said Monday.

Haynesworth has again stirred frustration in the organization because of what coaches consider a lack of effort in practice last week and by being late to a defensive meeting, according to people familiar with the situation. But the Redskins are not on the verge of releasing the two-time all-pro player, who earned $32 million in the first 14 months of his contract. By the end of the season, Haynesworth will have been paid $36.5 million for two seasons with the Redskins.

Haynesworth, who has a salary of $3.6 million this season, has been inactive for four games. He has not started a game and has been credited with 13 unassisted tackles and 2.5 sacks.

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[quote=Ruhskins;766054]Releasing Albert Haynesworth won't solve this teams problems, and honestly at this point this mess is solely Shanahan's fault for keeping this drama going so long. Personally, I hope he gets released, because I'm tired of him and this situation. I know Tony Kornheiser rarely talks sports, but I happened to be listening to his show today and he said it best....either play the guy or get rid of him, plain and simple.

Personally, I don't buy the whole "he's trying to change the culture of the team"; to me this was a big fight between MS' ego and AH's stubbornness (to quote TK). If Mike Shanahan wants to change the culture of this team, he needs to find a way to motivate players, get rid of worthless players, and win some f*cking games. Making an example of Albert Haynesworth in front of the national media has done nothing for this team.[/quote]

Let's clarifty 'changing the culture' for a minute. In essence it simply means letting players know who is in charge & holding them all to the same standards as much as possible. Basically it's just MS enforcing rules & creating some discipline. If AH has been insubordinate, what should MS do? Allow him to fail his training test, play whatever position he wants, skip or be late for meetings, miss practices?

I won't disagree that MS has a big ego & is stubborn, but that's part of why he's running an NFL team. In this case I'm not feeling it that this whole thing came about simply because of Shan.

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[quote=freddyg12;766058]Let's clarifty 'changing the culture' for a minute. In essence it simply means letting players know who is in charge & holding them all to the same standards as much as possible. Basically it's just MS enforcing rules & creating some discipline. If AH has been insubordinate, what should MS do? Allow him to fail his training test, play whatever position he wants, skip or be late for meetings, miss practices?

I won't disagree that MS has a big ego & is stubborn, but that's part of why he's running an NFL team. In this case I'm not feeling it that this whole thing came about simply because of Shan.[/quote]

His stubornest his the problem. We were a team with a top 10 defense an detroyed it by wanting to change it to a 3/4 even though we did not have the personnel for it. Alienating your players by calling them out in public forums(McNabb, Haynesworth)

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;766056]
Haynesworth, [B]who has a salary of $3.6 million this season[/B], has been inactive for four games. He has not started a game and has been credited with 13 unassisted tackles and 2.5 sacks.[/quote]

thats AH problem imo. he doesnt like the remainder of his contract. the DS and Vinny really screwed the pooch on this "lets get creative and take advantage of the no-cap year" thinking.

personally, id let him sit inactive for the next 2 seasons. no OTAs, preseason, etc. make that skins contract he signed and had no intention of honoring, his last contract. after 2 years of him sitting on his ass at home i doubt there would be much interest. might as well, he will be making pennies for the next few years since he already received the overloaded portion of his contract.

or AH could always opt out of the contract and pay back 17mil after this season if he truly wants to go to a 4-3 team and this isnt about the money he is set to make in the next few years. if he opts out he would have made about 18 mill for 2 seasons, thats fair compensation, then he is free to go and try and blackmail some other team.

of course, thats if his hissy fits are really about the 3-4 and not the fact that he thought he could get paid 32 mil for 14 months then force his way out of town and into a new contract.

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On the post game show on espn 980, Chris russell said the nature of haynesworth's sickness was the primary reason it was such an issue. He said he didn't have confirmation so he didn't want to say it then, but to expect to hear more soon. Based on other reports I've heard before, my impression was that haynesworths repeated stomach problems seem alot like hangover symptoms to me. I really wish we could suspend him for conduct detrimental to the team and keep him away from the facility.

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I would like a new defensive coordinator to decide if we want to keep him or not.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;766063]On the post game show on espn 980, Chris russell said the nature of haynesworth's sickness was the primary reason it was such an issue. He said he didn't have confirmation so he didn't want to say it then, but to expect to hear more soon. Based on other reports I've heard before, my impression was that haynesworths repeated stomach problems seem alot like hangover symptoms to me. I really wish we could suspend him for conduct detrimental to the team and keep him away from the facility.[/quote]

It's not the first time his illness has allegedly been the result of being less than responsible

I think I alluded to it this past summer

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/721751-post117.html[/url]

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The guy has been an a$$wipe since before the season started.
Boot him now!

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Let me SUGGEST - - with exactly no inside information to lead me to this suggestion - - that there is one constant factor in the AH saga from the day he signed his deal just moments after free agency started and today.
[INDENT]The GM situation has changed.

The coaching staff has changed.

AH is still here and still the same person/player.

One other "team factor" is still the same...[/INDENT]
Where's Waldo?

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He will not be released this season, but it sure sounds like he wont be brought back next year...if there is a next year.

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In all fairness to AH, the Redskins probably ruined his career. He was doing just fine before we got our hands on him. He was worth 100 mill when we got him, now we take whatever we can get for him. Only the Skins can do that to a player like AH. Pathetic if you ask me.

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[quote=44ever;766080]In all fairness to AH, the Redskins probably ruined his career. He was doing just fine before we got our hands on him. He was worth 100 mill when we got him, now we take whatever we can get for him. Only the Skins can do that to a player like AH. Pathetic if you ask me.[/quote]

He's always been the same guy, Fisher and Schwartz just did a good job at handling him. And he did have the face stomping incident so...

At the end of the day he's done this to himself. Skipping camps, showing up late to meetings, putting in half-assed efforts, etc.

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[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/albert-haynesworth/sources-albert-haynesworth-won.html]Redskins Insider - Sources: Albert Haynesworth won't be released[/url]

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For what it's worth, the sports junkies were saying other players on the team said haynesworth was hung over friday morning. a guy called in to the show and said haynesworth was at The tap room at 130 the night previous night. I know this just qualifies as a rumor but if it's true, its disgraceful.

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[quote=Mattyk;766082]He's always been the same guy, [B]Fisher and Schwartz just did a good job at handling him. [/B] And he did have the face stomping incident so...

At the end of the day he's done this to himself. Skipping camps, showing up late to meetings, putting in half-assed efforts, etc.[/quote]

Regardless of who's in charge, we don't seem to handle anyone well. I agree that he's done all of this to himself, I just don't know why must he be kept in this limbo. Either play him or cut him, this should've been done a long time ago.

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I'd make his ass practice and show up and play until the end of the year. Why just release him now so some other team could sign him to make a push for the SB. I mean we know the guy can play when he wants and I'm sure some team would be willing to sign him for the rest of the year. I could also see AH wanting to play so he could maybe get to a SB.

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[quote=freddyg12;766058]Let's clarifty 'changing the culture' for a minute. In essence it simply means letting players know who is in charge & holding them all to the same standards as much as possible. Basically it's just MS enforcing rules & creating some discipline. If AH has been insubordinate, what should MS do? Allow him to fail his training test, play whatever position he wants, skip or be late for meetings, miss practices?

I won't disagree that MS has a big ego & is stubborn, but that's part of why he's running an NFL team. In this case I'm not feeling it that this whole thing came about simply because of Shan.[/quote]

Haynesworth has been a problem since the beginning. Nothing good has come of the way that Shanahan has handled this situation. And it is ALL on him because everyone knows there is no way in hell Haynesworth is going to change. Haynesworth has brought this mess on himself and his career is pretty much down the tubes; however we didn't need and the team should've cut their losses and gotten rid of him, plain and simple.