Who's going to Hawaii to see the Pro Bowl? No One!
 

At least it looks that way.

Reports are the game has been suspended indefinitely. Couldn't happen to a nicer game!

Hopefully, a good replacement idea will be found.

[url=http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/7857508/nfl-moving-suspend-pro-bowl-sources-say]NFL moving to suspend Pro Bowl, sources say - ESPN Chicago[/url]
[quote]The Pro Bowl currently is on the NFL's calendar the week before the Super Bowl in New Orleans on Feb. 3 but no game site has been listed because of its precarious status, sources added.[/quote]

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welp

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Thank god, that game sucks.

Just say this is the Pro Bowl rosters but don't actually play the game, it is such a waste of time.

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Here is my idea for changing the Pro Bowl:

Continue with the selection/balloting process for selecting players to the Pro Bowl. Instead of having the pro players game, they should have a game similar to the Senior Bowl, where the top prospects get to showcase themselves. And have some type of awards ceremony to honor the Pro Bowlers, and maybe they can do the other NFL awards (MVP, rookie of the year, etc., etc.)

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Let 'em play 7 on 7

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I would like to see events like the ones we used to see in the NFL Quarterback Challenge. Always enjoyed watching those. Still remember Dan Marino hitting a 50 yard target on the bulls eye back in the day.

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Yeah, I'd watch fastest man, strongest man, QB challenge, etc. What ever happened to those?

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NFL will have a hard time finding a solution to this one. Primarily for the fact that the Players Union does have a say on the subject of the Pro Bowl. Too many player contracts have "Pro Bowl incentives" written in to them that the NFLPA will certainly raise some concerns.

I heard then talking about this on the radio this morning. I chuckled when one of the radio personalities said that the "players look forward to going to Hawaii after the season". And that is so way off the mark.

I lived in the Aloha State for 10 years, and saw 8 Pro Bowls. It was the only football we got over there. So who was selected was a big deal.

So if the players liked going to Hawaii so much, how come every time a big name makes the roster, when it comes time for the game, they elect to have "some type of minor off season surgery"? The Pro Bowl rosters and the way the NFL has to fill them in recent years has become a joke. It seems more and more, they are having to use alternates for the alternates just to fill a roster. Simply because the starters that are chosen simply don't want to go. They are proud to be selected, but they don't want to make the appearances.

And I just do not think that is the product the league wants to put on the field.

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Regarding player incentives, you can name a Pro Bowl roster without playing the game.

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It's about time they put that game out of its misery. Boring doesn't even begin to describe the Pro Bowl.

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Quick fix:

BIKINI BOWL.

We just need to work on this a little to bring the males of the world what they really want.

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One other factor here is that the NFL does not make money putting on the Pro Bowl. The TV money is very small - - for the simple reason that no one watches.

Players do not want to play in the game. (Anyone tune in to watch any of last year's game? I've seen better tackling and blocking in JV Middle School games!)

Fans do not want to attend the game. (Was the stadium half-full last year?)

Fans do not watch on TV. (Ratings are better than infomercials at 2:00AM, but not a whole lot better.)

So add it all up.

No one really cares about the game and the game is losing money... Its days are numbered.

RIP.

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Ratings are only slightly better than a 2am infomercial? Are you joking?

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[quote=SmootSmack;911943]Ratings are only slightly better than a 2am infomercial? Are you joking?[/quote]

So are you saying the infomercials actually have much higher ratings?


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At least I get to see this watching Kevin Trudeau's stuff.

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[quote=Daseal;911906]Yeah, I'd watch fastest man, strongest man, QB challenge, etc. What ever happened to those?[/quote]


I loved these too. A whole day of drills and combine type stuff for the leauges biggest names would be awesome.

But yeah the actual game itself sucks. And i like Matty's idea if its a 7 on 7 flag football / nba jam type game thats no longer then an hour including halftime and breaks and stuff.

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[quote=firstdown;911940]Quick fix:

BIKINI BOWL.

We just need to work on this a little to bring the males of the world what they really want.
[/quote]


Are there "pro bowl cheerleaders"? If not there should be. And i would propose special events for them too, like NFL's fastest cheerleader, most back flips, most high kicks in 1 minute, and beach volly ball contest (all in uniform). Make it fan voted so only the hottest of the cheerleaders get in.

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In years past I would have been upset about this,but after watching the players lack of effort last probowl I dont care anymore

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How about a awards show, like the NHL but the Pro Bowl team is announced during the show plus all pro top positions extra.

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[quote=SmootSmack;911943]Ratings are only slightly better than a 2am infomercial? Are you joking?[/quote]

Not joking - - it was an attempt at sarcasm. Sorry.

The Pro Bowl TV ratings are about 6-7 as I recall. That is a lot better than late-nite infomercials but that is not a good rating for something special from the NFL. I also recall that ratings this year were down significantly from last year which were down from the year before that.

The trend is not good in terms of viewership AND there is not an overwhelming audience out there wiating to be energized to tune in the game next year.

I don't think the NFL ever did this so this is a thought experiment only:
[INDENT]Suppose the NFL put the TV rights for the Pro Bowl out for bids as a stand-alone product. Anyone could bid to get the game whether or not you televised any other NFL stuff.

Would they get any serious bids?[/INDENT]

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It did close to an 8 I believe (better than the MLB All-Star game), which yes was down vs. 2011 yet still was the most watched sports event of the weekend. And more importantly, there isn't much at that time that NBC Sports or ESPN could schedule that's going to get much better ratings.

I'm 100% certain there would be TV bids for the Pro Bowl.

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The report stated that more than a few league higher-ups are trying to to convince Goodell to keep the game just because it DOES make money. Not sure why you think it doesn't.

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I got it! Perfect incentive to keep the Pro Bowl and make it competitive:

The winning conference team of the Pro Bowl would:

1. Earn every team in their conference extra salary cap space for the next season. I don't know what a good number would be for that, but enough to really make it worth playing for.
2. Definitely move the Pro Bowl to after the Super Bowl.
3. The MVP of the game not only wins some sort of monetary bonus from the league, ring, or trophy, but he also earns an automatic bid for a home opener for his team in the upcoming season.
4. If number 3 doesn't work, the MVP would win some sort of marketing deal with a sponsor of the game; i.e. RGIII could win an Adidas deal (although I'm sure he already will have that.)

Anyways, that's all I could think of.

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It's easy. Winners get 500k cash...losers get...bruises.

They'd play hard for a half a mil.

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[quote=FRPLG;912006]The report stated that more than a few league higher-ups are trying to to convince Goodell to keep the game just because it DOES make money. Not sure why you think it doesn't.[/quote]

Here is why I think it does not...

I run a small management consulting company in real life. One of my clients - - not permanently but on a sporadic basis - - is a minority partner in the ownership of an NFL franchise. [ NOT the Redskins! ]

That client referred me to another person tied to ownership of a different NFL team [ NOT the Redskins! ] for whom I did a one-time project last year.

In talking with them about NFL football during times when we were not focused on the specific management consulting tasks at hand, both of them complained about the Pro Bowl as a "money sink". I have not pressed either of them for details on that topic but it is interesting that both men - - with two different teams - - think that the Pro Bowl is a money loser.

Only the NFL's tax filers know for sure...

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There was some talk that they may reward teams/players for on-field performance during the game.

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[quote=SmootSmack;912431]There was some talk that they may reward teams/players for on-field performance during the game.[/quote]

You mean similar to a bounty program?

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[quote=mbedner3420;912432]You mean similar to a bounty program?[/quote]

Ha. No, not quite

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ive never been interested in the pro-bowl. football is a team sport and you cant put a bunch of players from different systems on the same team and expect anything that even remotely approaches a regular NFL game. sandwhiching the game between a week where the top 4 NFL teams compete and the top two compete makes it a complete letdown. it really is like a "filler" episode on a good tv show.

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Shame for the islands, that bought in a decent amount of cash and since 9/11 tourism has been down.

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Good the game has been a joke for a long time.

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Baseball does it right. The All Star game is always competetive.

That pro bowl was so ugly. I miss ST laying out punters... he approached the PB right..

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the pro bowl sucks. i have never been interested in watching it, theres no point to me.

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[quote=Mattyk;911932]Regarding player incentives, you can name a Pro Bowl roster without playing the game.[/quote]

Exactly, the NCAA doesn't play an All American Bowl with just the all americans. Just name the Pro Bowl guys, but maybe change it to All NFL or something.

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Have the game a week before the super bowl at the super bowl site. Let the players that made the pro bowl and will be playing in the super bowl be honorary coaches. All the players are already there any way or have it at the super bowl site a week after and extend the super bowl activities another week. It would give the fans to see more players with practice. Have more drills or contest with prize money. As far as a game? There are numerous things to do. Have like a celeberty or old timers flag football. They have to recognize the all pros. There are hundreds of things that could work. Its NFL for petes sake. You could have a cooking show with NFL on it and it would get better ratings then the other sports. Look at how the draft is getting better ratings then the other sports going on now. And hockey is having good playoff series. Not that many people like hockey but the games have been competive.