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dmek25 11-27-2012 07:08 PM

Updated: Jaguars Claim Jason Babin
 
[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Jason-Babin-Philadelphia-Eagles-cut-ties-with-defensive-end-112712]Philadelphia Eagles cut ties with defensive end Jason Babin - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN[/url]

i think we should bring him in. anyone else? not sure if he has ever played in a 3-4, but he can pressure the QB's

los panda 11-27-2012 07:09 PM

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not sure if he's ever been field goal holder, though

Lotus 11-27-2012 07:10 PM

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Can he play safety?

JGisLordOfTheRings 11-27-2012 07:13 PM

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Or Block?

TexSkins 11-27-2012 07:14 PM

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He played 3-4 for the Texans after he was drafted. Failed experiment. No need to waste our time

NC_Skins 11-27-2012 07:19 PM

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These guys same it a lot better than I ever could.

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Dirtbag59 11-27-2012 07:21 PM

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[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;968320]Or Block?[/quote]

That joke is sooooooooo 2011 :D

SFREDSKIN 11-27-2012 07:28 PM

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I hate this trailer trash, rather have Okoye instead.

NYCskinfan82 11-27-2012 07:35 PM

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If I was to take a guess I could see him playing for the atlanta buzzards.

EARTHQUAKE2689 11-27-2012 07:59 PM

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[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;968320]Or Block?[/quote]

He can block for the safety

Hog1 11-27-2012 08:12 PM

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WOW...what is he.....like Haynesworth's evil twin?

REDSKINS4ever 11-28-2012 12:46 AM

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Who needs Babin when we have Chris Baker?

CultBrennan59 11-28-2012 01:49 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;968325][B]I hate this trailer trash[/B], rather have Okoye instead.[/quote]

just curious, but how exactly is he trailer trash?

skinsfan69 11-28-2012 08:35 AM

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18 sacks last year to getting cut?? Not sure what the deal is but I'd take a look at him.

Chico23231 11-28-2012 08:40 AM

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Babin sucks. I cant believe people want him here. Eagles fans are thrilled he is gone. He is really a bad football player who is the definition of one-trick pony who cant even do the one trick. He is horrible, stay away from this guy.

Evilgrin 11-28-2012 11:39 AM

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[url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/27/jason-babin-trash-to-treasure/[/url]

Good read on him, and they actually suggest the skins. He is what we need right now, but not long term. Plus some motivation for contract again, and he gets to face the eagles again also.

skinsfan69 11-28-2012 02:00 PM

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Bottom line is he can rush the passer better than anyone we currenly have. He's probably not a good fit as a full time player, but as a 3rd down pass rusher? I'd take him if the price is right.

SmootSmack 11-28-2012 02:07 PM

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[url=http://proplayerinsiders.com/babin-wont-rush-decision-will-consider-his-long-term-future-before-signing/]Babin Won’t Rush Decision, Will Consider His Long-Term Fut... | Pro Player Insiders[/url]

CultBrennan59 11-28-2012 02:16 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;968641]Bottom line is he can rush the passer better than anyone we currenly have. He's probably not a good fit as a full time player, but as a 3rd down pass rusher? I'd take him if the price is right.[/quote]

Agreed that's what i was trying to say. If we don't get him it's fine. But he's the pass rush we re lacking right now

NC_Skins 11-28-2012 02:21 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;968649]Agreed that's what i was trying to say. If we don't get him it's fine. But he's the pass rush we re lacking right now[/quote]

He wasn't even the pass rusher that Philly lacked in a scheme that did fit, so why do you think he's going to be the pass rusher we need in a scheme that doesn't fit?

He had ONE very good year. Rest of his career has be mediocre to below average.

FRPLG 11-28-2012 02:27 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;968650]He wasn't even the pass rusher that Philly lacked in a scheme that did fit, so why do you think he's going to be the pass rusher we need in a scheme that doesn't fit?

He had ONE very good year. Rest of his career has be mediocre to below average.[/quote]

Boom roasted.

CultBrennan59 11-28-2012 02:31 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;968650]He wasn't even the pass rusher that Philly lacked in a scheme that did fit, so why do you think he's going to be the pass rusher we need in a scheme that doesn't fit?

He had ONE very good year. Rest of his career has be mediocre to below average.[/quote]

He is third in the nfl in sacks the past 3 years behind ware and Jared allen. That speaks for itself. Nfl players rate him in the top 100. That also speaks highly.

los panda 11-28-2012 02:32 PM

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5.5 sacks this season, would be 2nd on our team.
2 forced fumbles this season, would also be 2nd on our team.

perry riley is 2nd on our team this season w 2 sacks.
bunch of guys tied for 2nd on our team w 1 forced fumble.

NC_Skins 11-28-2012 02:49 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;968656]He is third in the nfl in sacks the past 3 years behind ware and Jared allen. That speaks for itself. Nfl players rate him in the top 100. That also speaks highly.[/quote]

Bro. You are taking his 1 great year, and trying to pass off like he's been the best the past 3 years. Laughable at best. He was great last year. Stop living in the past. He hasn't done jack shit this year which is why Philly's defense sucks and his ass got cut.

NC_Skins 11-28-2012 02:51 PM

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This thread could use some pics.


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CultBrennan59 11-28-2012 02:54 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;968660]Bro. You are taking his 1 great year, and trying to pass off like he's been the best the past 3 years. Laughable at best. He was great last year. Stop living in the past. He hasn't done jack shit this year which is why Philly's defense sucks and his ass got cut.[/quote]

I'm reiterating a point ESPN made yesterday on a graphic. Chill bra!

los panda 11-28-2012 02:57 PM

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nobody is saying he's not a one trick pony.

all i'm saying is 5.5 sacks > 2 sacks, and 2 forced fumbles is > 1 forced fumble.

it's a moot point, but fun to talk about

CRedskinsRule 11-28-2012 02:57 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;968645][url=http://proplayerinsiders.com/babin-wont-rush-decision-will-consider-his-long-term-future-before-signing/]Babin Won’t Rush Decision, Will Consider His Long-Term Fut... | Pro Player Insiders[/url][/quote]

Does he have to go through waiver wire process?

FRPLG 11-28-2012 02:59 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;968666]Does he have to go through waiver wire process?[/quote]

Yes. He'll count 1.6 to whoever picks him up. There's a decent shot he gets claimed.

NC_Skins 11-28-2012 02:59 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;968664]I'm reiterating a point ESPN made yesterday on a graphic. Chill bra![/quote]

Talk about bringing him in is moot anyways. He wouldn't come here to begin with. I'm quite sure he'll want to play in a place that runs a 4-3 scheme.

NC_Skins 11-28-2012 03:00 PM

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[quote=FRPLG;968668]Yes. He'll count 1.6 to whoever picks him up. There's a decent shot he gets claimed.[/quote]

Doesn't the people who claim him also pick up that contract? If so, I doubt he does clear waivers.

FRPLG 11-28-2012 03:01 PM

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Yes but who says they can't cut him following the season? They didn't pay him any guaranteed money so a future cap-hit doesn't exist unless you keep through roster/work out bonuses.

SmootSmack 11-28-2012 03:14 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;968666]Does he have to go through waiver wire process?[/quote]

yes

CRedskinsRule 11-28-2012 03:18 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;968675]yes[/quote]

so then how does he have any say? unless he just refuses to play for a team that picks him up on waivers. That doesn't make sense to me.

MTK 11-28-2012 03:19 PM

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Nobody will want him off waivers with his current contract. He'll pass through waivers and become a FA.

Evilgrin 11-28-2012 03:22 PM

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I think you can still cut him, there is no more guaranteed money on his contract. So he'd be playing the rest of this year for his contract next year. Who cares beyond this season....

MTK 11-28-2012 03:25 PM

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[quote=Evilgrin;968681]I think you can still cut him, there is no more guaranteed money on his contract. So he'd be playing the rest of this year for his contract next year. Who cares beyond this season....[/quote]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/27/babin-contract-could-be-a-bargain-basement-waivers-claim/]Babin contract could be a bargain-basement waivers claim | ProFootballTalk[/url]

ok you're right

los panda 11-28-2012 03:28 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;968682][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/27/babin-contract-could-be-a-bargain-basement-waivers-claim/]Babin contract could be a bargain-basement waivers claim | ProFootballTalk[/url]

ok you're right[/quote]looks like griff is giving him the ol' thumb in the eye on that page

hooskins 11-28-2012 03:32 PM

[QUOTE=Mattyk;968682][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/27/babin-contract-could-be-a-bargain-basement-waivers-claim/]Babin contract could be a bargain-basement waivers claim | ProFootballTalk[/url]

ok you're right[/QUOTE]

Hm, is he that much of a detriment to the team? We really need pass rushers. That being said, Philly thinks their backups were better so he probably isn't worth it.

DynamiteRave 11-28-2012 03:38 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;968457]Babin sucks. I cant believe people want him here. Eagles fans are thrilled he is gone. He is really a bad football player who is the definition of one-trick pony who cant even do the one trick. He is horrible, stay away from this guy.[/quote]

One team's trash is... another team's trash.

(See: Haynesworth)


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