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skinsfaninok 04-25-2019 10:02 PM

Dwayne Haskins
 
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skinsfan69 04-25-2019 10:09 PM

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Well at least we didn't give up draft picks. I have the feeling Gruden isn't going to want to play him right away so he can try and keep his job. I say you start him day one and just live with his mistakes. You don't draft him to sit. Play him and start him day one. No one wants to see Keenum or Colt.

As far as Rosen was concerned, he wasn't going to move the needle here in DC. I feel that is why we never pulled the trigger on him.

skinsfaninok 04-25-2019 10:15 PM

Re: Dwayne Haskins
 
Doug loves him, as do I. Kid is awesome

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SFREDSKIN 04-25-2019 10:21 PM

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Walter Football breakdown:

Dwayne Haskins*, QB, Ohio State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 231. Arm: 33.50. Hand: 9.63.
40 Time: 5.04.
Projected Round (2019): Top-20.
4/22/19: Haskins has flashed the ability to be an NFL quarterback, but he needs to become more consistent. In 2018, he completed 70 percent of his passes for 4,831 yards with 50 touchdowns and eight interceptions. Haskins struggled as a pocket passer against Penn State, but dominated Michigan's tough defense. As a sophomore, he completed 70 percent of his passes for 565 yards with four touchdowns and an interception.

Haskins has a strong arm with the potential to be a pocket passer who hurts defenses. He has talent, but there are stretches during which everything is just a little bit off with him. His decision-making is not consistent, and he makes some bad plays in terms of ball security. Haskins' field vision needs to improve, and he has to get faster at working through his progressions. His footwork also needs improvement, and his ball placement can be off.

Haskins should have returned to Ohio State for 2019 to improve his overall play before going to the NFL, but financially it was a smart decision as Haskins looks destined to go in the top 20. He was first-year starter in 2018 and has upside to grow. Haskins had solid interviews at the combine to solidify his status as a high first-rounder.

skinsfaninok 04-25-2019 10:23 PM

Re: Dwayne Haskins
 
Louis Riddick "skins got the best QB in this draft"

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SFREDSKIN 04-25-2019 10:25 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1222119]Louis Riddick "skins got the best QB in this draft"

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I hope he's not the second coming of Heath Shuler or JaMarcus Russell.

Chico23231 04-25-2019 10:27 PM

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IMO I would sit him and let him learn for the first half of season at least. IMO I think Haskins is a poor pick at qb. Much better class next year...once again Bruce and Dan have made a QB decision

What’s their record at QB?

SkinzWin 04-25-2019 10:29 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1222122]IMO I would sit him and let him learn for the first half of season at least. [B]IMO I think Haskins is a poor pick at qb[/B]. Much better class next year...once again Bruce and Dan have made a QB decision

What’s their record at QB?[/quote]

Why? What about him is poor?

Ruhskins 04-25-2019 10:31 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1222122]IMO I would sit him and let him learn for the first half of season at least. IMO I think Haskins is a poor pick at qb. Much better class next year...once again Bruce and Dan have made a QB decision

What’s their record at QB?[/quote]

Look what happened to the Giants when they waited on a QB. They ended up with Daniel Jones at #6.

I don't blame them for taking him. I'm glad they didn't reach for him or give up the farm for him.

Chico23231 04-25-2019 10:35 PM

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Terrible passer under pressure....not good on the deep ball, and moves poor in the pocket.

He needs a clean pocket 24/7 and unproven with poor receivers. He may have had the best receivers core this year in college.

Ruhskins 04-25-2019 10:37 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1222130]Terrible passer under pressure....not good on the deep ball, and moves poor in the pocket.

He needs a clean pocket 24/7 and [B]unproven with poor receivers.[/B][/quote]

Isn't that the case with most QBs from big time programs?

httr198020 04-25-2019 10:37 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1222122]IMO I would sit him and let him learn for the first half of season at least. IMO I think Haskins is a poor pick at qb. Much better class next year...once again Bruce and Dan have made a QB decision

What’s their record at QB?[/quote]

I think he's a really good qb.

Chico23231 04-25-2019 10:40 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1222131]Isn't that the case with most QBs from big time programs?[/quote]

Not like this, they were great this year. Paris Campbell and the other guy will go 2nd and 3rd round this year.

sdskinsfan2001 04-25-2019 10:41 PM

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Riddick, Charles Davis, and Mayock are my 3 favorite analysts. Mayock is gone. Gonna see what Charles Davis says later. But I trust Riddick's opinion as much or more than anyone else.

skinsfaninok 04-25-2019 10:42 PM

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1222121]I hope he's not the second coming of Heath Shuler or JaMarcus Russell.[/QUOTE]He won't, kid is committed but u have to build around him the right way

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Skinsfanatic 04-25-2019 10:43 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1222119]Louis Riddick "skins got the best QB in this draft"

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And a lot of us think Riddick would have/will make a great GM for us in the future.

Ruhskins 04-25-2019 10:43 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1222137]Not like this, they were great this year. Paris Campbell and the other guy will go 2nd and 3rd round this year.[/quote]

If they were great, they'd be first rounders.

Like I said, I didn't want a QB, but I'm glad they didn't do anything stupid to get a QB.

Alex's injury put us in a situation where we need a QB. Plain and simple, and if one falls in your lap, you take it.

We still have a lot of picks to get enough talent.

Chico23231 04-25-2019 10:44 PM

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We need a baller WR in the second cause Haskins gonna need some talent

Skinsfanatic 04-25-2019 10:45 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1222144]We need a baller WR in the second cause Haskins gonna need some talent[/quote]

Could you imagine if Parris Campbell is there?

Chico23231 04-25-2019 10:45 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1222143]If they were great, they'd be first rounders.

Like I said, I didn't want a QB, but I'm glad they didn't do anything stupid to get a QB.

Alex's injury put us in a situation where we need a QB. Plain and simple, and if one falls in your lap, you take it.

We still have a lot of picks to get enough talent.[/quote]

Has a WR been picked yet? OSU had serious talent at WR this year.

Chico23231 04-25-2019 10:46 PM

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1222145]Could you imagine if Parris Campbell is there?[/quote]

Take him or M Brown

Ruhskins 04-25-2019 10:46 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1222144]We need a baller WR in the second cause Haskins gonna need some talent[/quote]

Any QB for this team needs talent on offense period.

Also, I'm thinking more and more that Haskins is a Doug Williams pick:

[url]https://twitter.com/BuckyBrooks/status/1121594865463070723[/url]

SkinzWin 04-25-2019 10:47 PM

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Here is a very in-depth article about Haskins. Looks like there is reason for concern.

[URL="https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2019/02/22/the-all-22-why-nfl-pressure-could-be-a-problem-for-dwayne-haskins/2/"]https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2019/02/22/the-all-22-why-nfl-pressure-could-be-a-problem-for-dwayne-haskins/2/[/URL]

Chico23231 04-25-2019 10:48 PM

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This is a Dan/Bruce pick period.

Come on you know better

Ruhskins 04-25-2019 10:54 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1222151]This is a Dan/Bruce pick period.

Come on you know better[/quote]

And Doug. Read Craig Hoffman's tweets about this notion. He said this wasn't a Dan/Bruce vs. football people.

JP also said something similar and that what people were opposed to was a trade up, which didn't happen.

Sorry, I just don't buy on the trash that Russell/Paulsen/The Junkies keep putting out there.

I've lived through the gaffes that Dan Snyder has done, and this is nothing like it.

httr198020 04-25-2019 10:54 PM

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[quote=SkinzWin;1222150]Here is a very in-depth article about Haskins. Looks like there is reason for concern.

[URL="https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2019/02/22/the-all-22-why-nfl-pressure-could-be-a-problem-for-dwayne-haskins/2/"]https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2019/02/22/the-all-22-why-nfl-pressure-could-be-a-problem-for-dwayne-haskins/2/[/URL][/quote]

I didn't even want to draft a qb in the first round. However, I don't get why so many of you are trying to tear this guy down. We got the best qb in the draft. He has very good passing skills. Instead of focusing on things he can't do. Lets look at what he does well.

simbosargos75 04-25-2019 11:04 PM

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Huge fan.

Happiest I've been with a FRP since Kerrigan.

It's possible I'm a Big 10 homer though.

Just happy I'm not a Giants fan. Ridiculous pick they made at 6.

Chico23231 04-25-2019 11:07 PM

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[quote=simbosargos75;1222168]Huge fan.

Happiest I've been with a FRP since Kerrigan.

It's possible I'm a Big 10 homer though.

Just happy I'm not a Giants fan. Ridiculous pick they made at 6.[/quote]

Agree. Jones was a terrible pick

FrenchSkin 04-25-2019 11:08 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1222101][B]Well at least we didn't give up draft picks[/B]. I have the feeling Gruden isn't going to want to play him right away so he can try and keep his job. I say you start him day one and just live with his mistakes. You don't draft him to sit. Play him and start him day one. No one wants to see Keenum or Colt.

As far as Rosen was concerned, he wasn't going to move the needle here in DC. I feel that is why we never pulled the trigger on him.[/quote]

This. Jury is still out on Haskins, but I'm glad they didn't do a stupid trade!

Bishop Hammer 04-25-2019 11:09 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1222148]Any QB for this team needs talent on offense period.

Also, I'm thinking more and more that Haskins is a Doug Williams pick:

[url]https://twitter.com/BuckyBrooks/status/1121594865463070723[/url][/quote]

Snyder has made it known he wanted Haskins. That being said it doesn't mean Williams didn't want him either. It could be the case they both were on the same page, for a change?

httr198020 04-25-2019 11:12 PM

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[quote=simbosargos75;1222168]Huge fan.

Happiest I've been with a FRP since Kerrigan.

It's possible I'm a Big 10 homer though.

Just happy I'm not a Giants fan. Ridiculous pick they made at 6.[/quote] I don't understand what the fans here want. We get a really good young qb and they made about it.

simbosargos75 04-25-2019 11:18 PM

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[quote=httr198020;1222187]I don't understand what the fans here want. We get a really good young qb and they made about it.[/quote]


I'm not sure what you mean.

I love the pick personally. And I love the Sweat pick. Both rife with risk, but go big or go home.

KI Skins Fan 04-25-2019 11:46 PM

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I'm satisfied with this pick. He has a lot of potential, IMO, and we didn't do anything crazy to get him.

skinsfan69 04-25-2019 11:52 PM

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[quote=SkinzWin;1222150]Here is a very in-depth article about Haskins. Looks like there is reason for concern.

[URL="https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2019/02/22/the-all-22-why-nfl-pressure-could-be-a-problem-for-dwayne-haskins/2/"]https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2019/02/22/the-all-22-why-nfl-pressure-could-be-a-problem-for-dwayne-haskins/2/[/URL][/quote]

Every single QB drafted has some bad plays. Haskins is no different from Jones, Murray or Lock. They all have negative plays.

NC_Skins 04-25-2019 11:53 PM

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I'm just going to say this. Name me ONE Urban Myer QB during his history of coaching that went on to become anything worth a shit in the NFL?

Mark my words. Haskins will be a bust. Spread offense QBs don't translate very well to the NFL. Give me a pro-style behind the center QB any day of the week. He could succeed if they sat him for 2-3 years while he learned, but no way is that going to happen with these dipshits at the helm.


Just my .02

Pervis_Griffith 04-26-2019 12:00 AM

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[quote=NC_Skins;1222255]I'm just going to say this. Name me ONE Urban Myer QB during his history of coaching that went on to become anything worth a shit in the NFL?
[/quote]


Uhhh ... Alex Smith?

httr198020 04-26-2019 12:02 AM

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[quote=NC_Skins;1222255]I'm just going to say this. Name me ONE Urban Myer QB during his history of coaching that went on to become anything worth a shit in the NFL?

Mark my words. Haskins will be a bust. Spread offense QBs don't translate very well to the NFL. Give me a pro-style behind the center QB any day of the week. He could succeed if they sat him for 2-3 years while he learned, but no way is that going to happen with these dipshits at the helm.


Just my .02[/quote]
Stop crying like a bitch. He's a very good qb with all the tools. Sit back and lets see what happens. You calling the man a bust before he even gets to throw pass for this team.

skinsfan69 04-26-2019 12:04 AM

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[quote=NC_Skins;1222255]I'm just going to say this. Name me ONE Urban Myer QB during his history of coaching that went on to become anything worth a shit in the NFL?

Mark my words. Haskins will be a bust. Spread offense QBs don't translate very well to the NFL. Give me a pro-style behind the center QB any day of the week. He could succeed if they sat him for 2-3 years while he learned, but no way is that going to happen with these dipshits at the helm.


Just my .02[/quote]

Alex Smith is a starting NFL QB. I personally wouldn't want him as my QB but he has been a average NFL starter.

Also pretty much everyone is in shotgun coming out of college. There are really only a few offenses in college that don't run spread.

NC_Skins 04-26-2019 12:05 AM

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1222257]Uhhh ... Alex Smith?[/quote]

:laughing2 :laughing2 :laughing2 :laughing2


A QB who's only manage to throw over 20 TDs in a season three times during his 13 year tenure. His max TDs thrown was 26.


Keep trying.

mooby 04-26-2019 12:08 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1222260]Alex Smith is a starting NFL QB. I personally wouldn't want him as my QB but he has been a average NFL starter.

Also pretty much everyone is in shotgun coming out of college. There are really only a few offenses in college that don't run spread.[/quote]

Is average NFL starter what we're aiming for?


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