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sdskinsfan2001 09-08-2019 05:39 PM

Week 1 Loss - Post Thoughts Here
 
Positives - Like the young WRs (Richardson, catch the ball). I like our WRs, even more so if we keep Davis. Guice didn't have the yards, but still like how he moved.

Negatives - Gruden, Manusky, the defense folding, Case missing an easy TD, all of our OLBs (combined they did absolutely fucking nothing.)

DynamiteRave 09-08-2019 05:44 PM

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Not sure if Holcomb is inside or out but he did good.


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SFREDSKIN 09-08-2019 05:46 PM

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Positives:

Keenum
McClaurin
Davis
Holcomb

Negatives:

Moses
Penn
Nicholson
Dunbar
Norman
No pass rush

calia 09-08-2019 05:48 PM

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1229190]Positives:



Keenum

McClaurin

Davis

Holcomb



Negatives:



Moses

Penn

Nicholson

Dunbar

Norman

No pass rush[/QUOTE]



I started McLaurin in my fantasy league. [emoji846]


Agree with this list. OLBs in particular were non factors. What was up with that?


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Ruhskins 09-08-2019 05:49 PM

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Positives: Case played well and did more than anyone expected him to do. Terry McLaurin. The o-line for the most part did their job, especially early on. The team is not as hopeless as a lot of people pegged them out to be. Flowers wasn't the hot mess we expected him to be.

Negatives: Gruden was quick to abandon the run late in the first half. We still have miscommunication issues on defense. Drops killed us in the second half (after the missed TD, there were two drops that would have been first downs. Morgan Moses is TRASH.

I expected a blow out and the team fought for at least a half. I think this is something we can build on this season. Allen is super important to the defense, and his absence was very noticeable.

skinsfaninok 09-08-2019 05:55 PM

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This team is so predictable which is why I knew they would lose today. Started off hot because Philly was clearly rusty. Then the 2nd half came and we were doomed. Jay sucks as a HC, the defense isn't anything special and we have no run game. Long season

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sdskinsfan2001 09-08-2019 05:57 PM

Re: Week 1 Loss - Post Thoughts Here
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1229193]Positives: Case played well and did more than anyone expected him to do. Terry McLaurin. The o-line for the most part did their job, especially early on. The team is not as hopeless as a lot of people pegged them out to be. Flowers wasn't the hot mess we expected him to be.

Negatives: Gruden was quick to abandon the run late in the first half. We still have miscommunication issues on defense. Drops killed us in the second half (after the missed TD, there were two drops that would have been first downs. Morgan Moses is TRASH.

I expected a blow out and the team fought for at least a half. I think this is something we can build on this season. Allen is super important to the defense, and his absence was very noticeable.[/quote]

I didn't notice Flowers. That's a good thing. He had to have least been serviceable.

Ruhskins 09-08-2019 05:59 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1229195]This team is so predictable which is why I knew they would lose today. Started off hot because Philly was clearly rusty. Then the 2nd half came and we were doomed. Jay sucks as a HC, the defense isn't anything special and we have no run game. Long season

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Well a lot of people expected us to come out the way the Dolphins did today and get blown out of the water.

punch it in 09-08-2019 06:02 PM

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Positives :
McLaurin looks like the real deal.
Keenum looks good enough to play so Haskins can mature.
Tress Way.

Negatives :
Gruden is a dog.
Manusky is a dog turd.
Run game was maybe as bad as I have ever seen it.
Pass Rush was definitely as bad as I have ever seen it.

Chico23231 09-08-2019 06:02 PM

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You have to be one fucking inept coaching staff to be so dominant the first half and have zero answers the second half. Gruden is the worst and manusky is a bottom 3 d coordinator in the league.

You sat AP some Guice 10 rushes for 18 yards. Absolutely horseshit move by jay. What a pathetic twat. Peterson should have been out there trying to muster a better running game.

Ruhskins 09-08-2019 06:05 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1229200]You have to be one fucking inept coaching staff to be so dominant the first half and have zero answers the second half. Gruden is the worst and manusky is a bottom 3 d coordinator in the league.

You sat AP some Guice 10 rushes for 18 yards. Absolutely horseshit move by jay. What a pathetic twat. Peterson should have been out there trying to muster a better running game.[/quote]

AP would have probably been on the sideline like Guice was. Terrible running game had a lot to do with Gruden abandoning it late in the second half.

skinsfan69 09-08-2019 06:35 PM

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My post thoughts are there's no way we're beating the Cowboys.

skinsfan69 09-08-2019 06:38 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1229199]Positives :
McLaurin looks like the real deal.
Keenum looks good enough to play so Haskins can mature.
Tress Way.

Negatives :
Gruden is a dog.
Manusky is a dog turd.
Run game was maybe as bad as I have ever seen it.
Pass Rush was definitely as bad as I have ever seen it.[/quote]

Zero pass rush. Sweat did absolutely nothing. And don't get me started on Kerrigan. He looked old and slow.

skinsfan69 09-08-2019 06:39 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1229197]Well a lot of people expected us to come out the way the Dolphins did today and get blown out of the water.[/quote]

No morale victories in year 6 of Gruden.

skinsfaninok 09-08-2019 06:55 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1229206]My post thoughts are there's no way we're beating the Cowboys.[/QUOTE]It's only 1 game but the Redskins just never get out of their own way. Dallas will win because Jay is not a NFL HC. He'll win 6 games this year and get fired

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punch it in 09-08-2019 06:59 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1229208]No morale victories in year 6 of Gruden.[/QUOTE]



Exactly. Who gives a fuck if we lost better than the dolphins. Lol

SFREDSKIN 09-08-2019 07:03 PM

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From Keim:

Big takeaway: The Redskins' defense needs to be a lot more sound and impactful if this team is going to even think about having a good year. They were plagued, once again, by some communication mishaps that led to big touchdowns -- just like last season. Corner Josh Norman said part of the issue stemmed from not getting certain calls or audibles to the outside quick enough. Safety Montae Nicholson said some of it was from not playing a lot together thus far. Regardless, it was bad -- and it wasn't just the secondary. "That miscommunication will kill you every time," Norman said. "We'll get it corrected. ... You get out like that you got to put guys away, you've got to shut the door."

Then get your shit together and quit using excuses like not playing a lot together

CrustyRedskin 09-08-2019 07:11 PM

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I watched this last week and knew we were f'd. Small sample size but his dude is fn trash. pos.


[url]https://www.redskins.com/video/mic-d-up-greg-manusky[/url]

DynamiteRave 09-08-2019 07:12 PM

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[QUOTE=CrustyRedskin;1229212]I watched this last week and knew we were f'd. Small sample size but his dude is fn trash. pos.





[url]https://www.redskins.com/video/mic-d-up-greg-manusky[/url][/QUOTE]



Hey Crusty long time no see


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CrustyRedskin 09-08-2019 07:22 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1229213]Hey Crusty long time no see


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:food-smil and gal am I feeling extra crusty after that bs.

DynamiteRave 09-08-2019 07:25 PM

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[QUOTE=CrustyRedskin;1229214]:food-smil and gal am I feeling extra crusty after that bs.[/QUOTE]



Me too honey it was a hard watch lol


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Chico23231 09-08-2019 07:34 PM

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Cole Holcomb and Terry McLaurin nice performances today. Case Keenum played as well as anybody could today...man that overthrow to T Mac in the second half hurt...could have changed the game. I thought against a tough dline, the Oline held up pretty well.

Pretty underwhelming performance by Guice. AP gets those tougher yards against good defenses. The left side didn’t run block well...and Moses was really fucking up alot

skinsfaninok 09-08-2019 07:49 PM

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Sad part is, if u would have told me that Case would have a career day and Terry would go for 100 and a TD , I'd say we win... Jay sucks

skinsfan69 09-08-2019 08:16 PM

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This is a classic example of how stats are misleading. Yes we racked up a lot of passing yards but could not muster a single first down when it was badly needed. The TOP at one point in the 2nd half was Eagles 20 and the Skins 6. They literally had the ball the entire half.

BaltimoreSkins 09-08-2019 08:56 PM

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Positives:
-Norman's acting career. Getting a holding call on that goal line stance in the 4th (maybe 3rd?) shows his Dancing with the Stars performance was no fluke
-Vegas point spread. A lot of people, not just here in fandom, were making a big deal about hte size of the spread. Redskins showed the nation it was exactly where it should be.
-Cooley taking subtle digs at Alex Smith. When the game was 32-20 and there was basically two minutes left Cooley commented on how people were making a big deal about Keenum's interception stats but said he will at least lose trying to win the game throwing down the field and we will not see a bunch of check downs. That comment made me chuckle.

Negatives:
-Defensive line depth. Thought this was suppossed to be a strength. Allen goes out and the entire D fell apart. That has me a bit concerned.

Ruhskins 09-08-2019 09:03 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1229220]This is a classic example of how stats are misleading. Yes we racked up a lot of passing yards but could not muster a single first down when it was badly needed. The TOP at one point in the 2nd half was Eagles 20 and the Skins 6. They literally had the ball the entire half.[/QUOTE]So basically Kirk Cousin's career with us.

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htownskinfan 09-08-2019 09:12 PM

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New year same Redskins,same Gruden,same mistakes.Having Peterson inactive made no sense to me,who was Guices backup? Was Marshal active? Pass blocking was decent but run blocking was awful,and Guice wasnt much better. I would bet that even when we were up 17-0 no one here was comfortable,because we know the skins.
We were outgained 279 yards to 30 in 2nd half till that last meaningless drive,pitiful.
DeSean made the defense look like fools,we couldn’t cover him

SFREDSKIN 09-08-2019 09:16 PM

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Did Zach Brown even play for the fecals?

skinsfaninok 09-08-2019 09:23 PM

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[quote=htownskinfan;1229223]New year same Redskins,same Gruden,same mistakes.Having Peterson inactive made no sense to me,who was Guices backup? Was Marshal active? Pass blocking was decent but run blocking was awful,and Guice wasnt much better. I would bet that even when we were up 17-0 no one here was comfortable,because we know the skins.
We were outgained 279 yards to 30 in 2nd half till that last meaningless drive,pitiful.
DeSean made the defense look like fools,we couldn’t cover him[/quote]

You said it , Same old skins. It's what we are used to seeing

Chico23231 09-08-2019 09:32 PM

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1229221]Positives:
-Norman's acting career. Getting a holding call on that goal line stance in the 4th (maybe 3rd?) shows his Dancing with the Stars performance was no fluke
-Vegas point spread. A lot of people, not just here in fandom, were making a big deal about hte size of the spread. Redskins showed the nation it was exactly where it should be.
-Cooley taking subtle digs at Alex Smith. When the game was 32-20 and there was basically two minutes left Cooley commented on how people were making a big deal about Keenum's interception stats but said he will at least lose trying to win the game throwing down the field and we will not see a bunch of check downs. That comment made me chuckle.

Negatives:
-Defensive line depth. Thought this was suppossed to be a strength. Allen goes out and the entire D fell apart. That has me a bit concerned.[/quote]

Watching the game it made me think of it like this...Alex Smith was a terrible fit in Jay Offense. Case seems like a better fit and he played better today than Alex every played with us. Again, the Alex trade was a knee jerk Bruce move which gave no consideration of can he work in Jays offense. When he struggled folks said Alex needs more time....damn, does Case need more time? This is just more evidence of mismanagement by Bruce, fit in scheme is fucking important!

SFREDSKIN 09-08-2019 09:35 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1229228]Watching the game it made me think of it like this...Alex Smith was a terrible fit in Jay Offense. Case seems like a better fit and he played better today than Alex every played with us. Again, the Alex trade was a knee jerk Bruce move which gave no consideration of can he work in Jays offense. When he struggled folks said Alex needs more time....damn, does Case need more time? This is just more evidence of mismanagement by Bruce, fit in scheme is fucking important![/quote]

That’s what I said lat year, should have signed Keenum who was cheaper, younger and fit the offense better.

skinsfaninok 09-08-2019 09:40 PM

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was impressed with CK today, he was very accurate on most passes and moved well

skinsfan69 09-08-2019 09:57 PM

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Case was good, 1st half was outstanding, definitely better than Smith. Problem is his missed td really hurt the team. That was a back breaker.

SFREDSKIN 09-08-2019 10:02 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1229234]Case was good, 1st half was outstanding, definitely better than Smith. Problem is his missed td really hurt the team. That was a back breaker.[/quote]

The back breaker was letting Jackson score on 2 bombs.

skinsfaninok 09-08-2019 10:08 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1229237]The back breaker was letting Jackson score on 2 bombs.[/quote]

Monte is terrible in coverage

SFREDSKIN 09-08-2019 10:12 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1229238]Monte is terrible in coverage[/quote]

Norman was no better.

OmahaRedskins 09-08-2019 10:32 PM

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Norman should have had safety help on D-Jack. He should have never been allowed to catch one, let alone two.

PorkSkins 09-08-2019 10:35 PM

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1229240]Norman should have had safety help on D-Jack. He should have never been allowed to catch one, let alone two.[/quote]

I thought Norman got out of his backpedal too late on Jackson's first TD.

skinsfaninok 09-08-2019 10:40 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1229239]Norman was no better.[/quote]

skins may majority cover 3 which means the FS is responsible for the deep balls

kct1975 09-08-2019 10:56 PM

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POSITIVE
First Half

NEGATIVE
Second Half

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