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While much attention (deservedly so) is paid to pick 2, what about all the picks in the second and third rounds? These 5 picks could really shape the team and the vision Peters has for the organization going forward.

Who do you want? Which positions you looking to fill?

My feeling is Tackle, Edge will be the focus in the second. Corner, Tight End and WR in the third.

Honestly, stick to the board and go BPA, don’t draft on need…we need talent everywhere anyways.

I’m most eager to see what first round grade prospect falls to us at 36 in the second round. Could Chop Rob, Kool Aid, Ladd McC, or Tyler Guyton make it too us?

Any players in these round you are looking at? If we are looking for a guy to sit behind Wagner for a year, I’d really like Junior Colson at linebacker.

Keim has repeatedly said we are going to add a TE early…who you like? I got no clue, the TE crop is kinda weak

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I think we won't have any 2d round picks on Friday and maybe only two 3rds.

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after QB, we need an OT that can play sooner than later, so that'll be the 2nd pick either late in 1 or early in 2 (if someone's there to get). I'd also like to get a true #1 CB, which probably won't happen if we're going QB 1, OT 2.

but yes, 3rd rounders start on teams, and our top 53 could use some work, so we'll see what we end up with.

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[quote=That Guy;1361367]after QB, we need an OT that can play sooner than later, so that'll be the 2nd pick either late in 1 or early in 2 (if someone's there to get). I'd also like to get a true #1 CB, which probably won't happen if we're going QB 1, OT 2.

but yes, 3rd rounders start on teams, and our top 53 could use some work, so we'll see what we end up with.[/quote]

I think we will actually trade up further than a late first. My prediction is the 10-20 range.

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Should be BPA every pick imo. I'd probably steer clear of DT and C, but even there dpth is good.

This team isn't good enough to worry about need.

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I agree with BPA for all of our picks. As much as I like a draft trade, I like our picks and what AP is building.

"In Peters we trust"

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SPEED!
I hope we go Al Davis and get all the track guys.

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[quote=Chico23231;1361362]While much attention (deservedly so) is paid to pick 2, what about all the picks in the second and third rounds? These 5 picks could really shape the team and the vision Peters has for the organization going forward.

Who do you want? Which positions you looking to fill?

My feeling is Tackle, Edge will be the focus in the second. Corner, Tight End and WR in the third.

Honestly, stick to the board and go BPA, don’t draft on need…we need talent everywhere anyways.

I’m most eager to see what first round grade prospect falls to us at 36 in the second round. Could Chop Rob, Kool Aid, Ladd McC, or Tyler Guyton make it too us?

Any players in these round you are looking at? If we are looking for a guy to sit behind Wagner for a year, I’d really like Junior Colson at linebacker.

Keim has repeatedly said we are going to add a TE early…who you like? I got no clue, the TE crop is kinda weak[/quote]

I'm not looking at any players in particular. I just think we should go best player available whenever we're on the clock...maybe trade one of our second rounders for some extra picks.

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The day we have all waited for is finally here. Cant wait for tonight but still hate the new format. I still don't want to trade into the first for a LT, In Peters I trust and I want him firing as many bullets as possible, going BPA every pick.

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Outside of JJ Mac…I like a lot of Michigan prospects. Tackle, RB, nickel corner and their top WR are all guys worth taking a look at in the 3rd.

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Needs in tiers

QB - tier 1

OT/CB - tier 2

Edge/S/G - tier 3

TE tier - tier 4

BPA can change when you get to tier 3 You obviously cannot neglect QB and OT and to a slightly lesser extent CB. Forbes and BSJ might be elevated with coaching but they might be complete disasters.

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[quote=punch it in;1361411]Needs in tiers

QB - tier 1

OT/CB - tier 2

Edge/S/G - tier 3

TE tier - tier 4

BPA can change when you get to tier 3 You obviously cannot neglect QB and OT and to a slightly lesser extent CB. Forbes and BSJ might be elevated with coaching but they might be complete disasters.[/quote]

Just in reading the tea leaves on top 30 visits and per Ben Standig 49ers had a history of drafting out of their top 30 visits…just based on who they brought in…Tackle, Tight End and Edge seemed to be a focus as they brought in guys in that 2nd round -early 3rd round range.

You have to believe that WR, CB and LB is still a need.

Keim also hinted at maybe drafting 2 Tackles in the 2nd and 3rd as a possibility

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1361412]Just in reading the tea leaves on top 30 visits and per Ben Standig 49ers had a history of drafting out of their top 30 visits…just based on who they brought in…Tackle, Tight End and Edge seemed to be a focus as they brought in guys in that 2nd round -early 3rd round range.

You have to believe that WR, CB and LB is still a need.

Keim also hinted at maybe drafting 2 Tackles in the 2nd and 3rd as a possibility[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=Chico23231;1361412]Just in reading the tea leaves on top 30 visits and per Ben Standig 49ers had a history of drafting out of their top 30 visits…just based on who they brought in…Tackle, Tight End and Edge seemed to be a focus as they brought in guys in that 2nd round -early 3rd round range.

You have to believe that WR, CB and LB is still a need.

Keim also hinted at maybe drafting 2 Tackles in the 2nd and 3rd as a possibility[/QUOTE]


That is just my wish list , i knew I was forgetting something which was wr. I would put that in tier 3. I don’t think TE is an immediate need but would not be upset if Sanders or someone of that ilk is sitting there in the third round and we got them. We definitely need two tackles. LB is not a need this year but you don’t overlook one if he falls to you. End of the day I really just want QB, OT, and CB after day 2 and everything else is gravy. Rome wasn’t built in one draft.

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[quote=Chico23231;1361412]Just in reading the tea leaves on top 30 visits and per Ben Standig 49ers had a history of drafting out of their top 30 visits…just based on who they brought in…Tackle, Tight End and Edge seemed to be a focus as they brought in guys in that 2nd round -early 3rd round range.

You have to believe that WR, CB and LB is still a need.

Keim also hinted at maybe drafting 2 Tackles in the 2nd and 3rd as a possibility[/quote]

It is interesting that they didn't bring in any WR, smoke screen or just no interest in drafting one before the 3rd round I wonder.

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[quote=simbosargos75;1361372]Should be BPA every pick imo. I'd probably steer clear of DT and C, but even there dpth is good.

This team isn't good enough to worry about need.[/quote]

Preach.

2nd worst record in the NFL last year and somehow we're concerned about who to draft.

For the record I agree, not much need at DT. But there are very few positions on this roster that doesn't need a young talented rookie on a cheap contract.

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[quote=punch it in;1361411]Needs in tiers

QB - tier 1

OT/CB - tier 2

Edge/S/G - tier 3

TE tier - tier 4

BPA can change when you get to tier 3 You obviously cannot neglect QB and OT and to a slightly lesser extent CB. Forbes and BSJ might be elevated with coaching but they might be complete disasters.[/quote]

Aside from OT, CB is the most pressing need. Either DeJean, or McKinstry would help.

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CB being a pressing need kind of shows how bad the last draft was for the Redskins.

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I think it's a bit too soon to consider last year's draft bad - with regard to the DBs taken. Many - including DQ think Forbes can play, and a lot of good things have been said about Martin as well. Either way, another CB with the potential to start won't hurt and it appears we may have the opportunity to pick a good one early in the 2nd.

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Cooper DeJean looks like he could play CB/Safety and excels as a kick returner.
His highlight reel on YouTube is impressive. Fast, athletic and physical.
As much as I want OL the most, if DeJean is there, BPA logic leans to taking him.

The best OL ranked in round two (not reaching for one) are interior lineman.
There are a couple of LB’s that are lining up BPA and we need.
OT might be a reach at 36 and 40 with who is left.

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defensive players are definitely the best value in top of the 2nd right now (and WR), and CB is a need. A bit bummed we missed on the better OTs though. We're in a good spot to get 2 players ranked above our slots, so it's not all bad.

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I'd take any one of the top CBs available, but Adonai Mitchell and Edgerrin Cooper would be an amazing haul coming out of the 2nd.

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Fisher Rosengarten or Kingsley. Take bpa at cb with 36 and bpa at OT with 40. I say that because there are some outstanding cb’s still there. Dejean and kingsley in the second would be a win.

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;1361548]Cooper DeJean looks like he could play CB/Safety and excels as a kick returner.
His highlight reel on YouTube is impressive. Fast, athletic and physical.
As much as I want OL the most, if DeJean is there, BPA logic leans to taking him.

The best OL ranked in round two (not reaching for one) are interior lineman.
There are a couple of LB’s that are lining up BPA and we need.
OT might be a reach at 36 and 40 with who is left.[/QUOTE]


Dejean might not make it to 36. Hope he does. You need to take an OT at 40 even if it is a reach. Because JD needs all the help he can get up front

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This team can't afford to reach.

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[quote=punch it in;1361562]Dejean might not make it to 36. Hope he does. You need to take an OT at 40 even if it is a reach. Because JD needs all the help he can get up front[/quote]

If we draft a shitty tackle at 36 because we need it and he goes out and plays like shit we're just gonna sit here and bitch about Peters wasting a 2nd round pick on a shitty tackle. Like we do about Phidarian Mathis.

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[quote=mooby;1361567]If we draft a shitty tackle at 36 because we need it and he goes out and plays like shit we're just gonna sit here and bitch about Peters wasting a 2nd round pick on a shitty tackle. Like we do about Phidarian Mathis.[/quote]

And if we only draft a project tackle and our shiny new QB gets killed then there will also be bitching at Peters not using the resources to get a guy. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Hopefully they have one or two gems in their pockets, if they pick one at 40 hopefully it is because they know he is good rather than reaching. Even if fans and media don't rate them

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If we're down to developmental OTs, then I'd rather wait until the 3rd round, because there will be plenty of those available there. Use picks 36 and 40 to get players who have a greater chance of starting week 1 - CB, LB, WR, maybe even EDGE.

Let's not overcomplicate things and reach unnecessarily.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1361570]And if we only draft a project tackle and our shiny new QB gets killed then there will also be bitching at Peters not using the resources to get a guy. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Hopefully they have one or two gems in their pockets, if they pick one at 40 hopefully it is because they know he is good rather than reaching. Even if fans and media don't rate them[/quote]

Little early to be bitching about Peters not filling holes, the 2nd round hasn't even started yet. Let's let it play out before we critique the moves he does or doesn't make.

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[quote=mooby;1361576]Little early to be bitching about Peters not filling holes, the 2nd round hasn't even started yet. Let's let it play out before we critique the moves he does or doesn't make.[/quote]

Seriously...

Also, let us not forget all the holes we filled in free agency already. Some of these are short-term fixes/depth pieces, but some are on 3-year deals and expected to contribute in a big way:

Marcus Mariota
Austin Ekeler
Zach Ertz
Nick Allegretti
Tyler Biadasz
Dorance Armstrong Jr.
Dante Fowler Jr.
Clelin Ferrell
Bobby Wagner
Frankie Luvu
Anthony Pittman
Michael Davis
Noah Igbinoghene
Jeremy Chinn
Brandon McManus
Tyler Ott

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with the addistion of JD5 and hopefully a new OT tonight, this team has absolutely nailed the off season.

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I like the nfl.com 2nd/3rd round mock, under the circumstances (not being able to trade up for a starting LT):
36 Dejean
40 Suamataia
67 Polk
78 Johnson
100 Green

Maybe we've missed out on a starting LT, but this addresses DB, TE and tops up the WR room, plus a young T that has the physicals and the pedigree (Sewell's cousin) to do well in the NFL. I'd be plenty happy with this lot in the bag before rd 4.

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[quote=Defensewins;1361548]Cooper DeJean looks like he could play CB/Safety and excels as a kick returner.
His highlight reel on YouTube is impressive. Fast, athletic and physical.
As much as I want OL the most, if DeJean is there, BPA logic leans to taking him.

The best OL ranked in round two (not reaching for one) are interior lineman.
There are a couple of LB’s that are lining up BPA and we need.
OT might be a reach at 36 and 40 with who is left.[/quote]

As a Wisconsin alum, I HATE Iowa, but yeah, I would be elated to get him at 36. Just a really good all-around player.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1361563]This team can't afford to reach.[/QUOTE]


Im not saying to reach necessarily. I know i said reach. Bad choice of words. Maybe just ignore the few you have bpa in front of them. A slight reach. Lol. Just remember how important the oline is and if you think there is a guy there who can step in and help then…..

I think if Kingsley or Fisher is sitting there in the third they need to go get em. Take a corner with 36. Three good ones at the top of bpa right now

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[quote=mooby;1361576]Little early to be bitching about Peters not filling holes, the 2nd round hasn't even started yet. Let's let it play out before we critique the moves he does or doesn't make.[/quote]

Absolutely, and he can't fill all the holes in one offseason.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1361572]If we're down to developmental OTs, then I'd rather wait until the 3rd round, because there will be plenty of those available there. Use picks 36 and 40 to get players who have a greater chance of starting week 1 - CB, LB, WR, maybe even EDGE.

[B]Let's not overcomplicate things and reach unnecessarily.[/B][/quote]

That would be my approach as well. One difference in my preferred approach would be to extend your idea through the third round because I believe this draft is extraordinarily deep.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1361588]That would be my approach as well. One difference in my preferred approach would be to extend your idea through the third round because I believe this draft is extraordinarily deep.[/quote]

Oh, I agree.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1361560]I'd take any one of the top CBs available, but Adonai Mitchell and Edgerrin Cooper would be an amazing haul coming out of the 2nd.[/quote]

LB's Edgerrin Cooper and Junior Colson look swift and strong.
Kool-Aid McKinstry looked good against LSU last year. Jayden threw away from him. Respect? I like that he is a little bigger, not pencil thin for a corner.

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Johnny Newton activated.

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[QUOTE=Redskin Jim;1363150]Johnny Newton activated.[/QUOTE]


And fully participating, I heard.

Huge


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I have high hopes of Newton becoming a star. His style of play reminds me of Warren Sapp. Something tells me we're in for something good.