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paulskinsfan 08-30-2005 10:50 AM

Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
Just throwing this out for discussion. Apparently Peter Warrick is being released today. Given Taylor Jacobs injury history, if we could sign him for very little should we have any interest? Also, if we could sign Cory Simon for a 1 year deal for cheap, should we?

FRPLG 08-30-2005 11:13 AM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]Just throwing this out for discussion. Apparently Peter Warrick is being released today. Given Taylor Jacobs injury history, if we could sign him for very little should we have any interest? Also, if we could sign Cory Simon for a 1 year deal for cheap, should we?[/QUOTE]
No and we couldn't.

firstdown 08-30-2005 11:18 AM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
I don't think Cory would sign a 1 year deal he is looking for a big pay day. He was going to receive a little over five mil this year with Phil.

Redskins_P 08-30-2005 11:20 AM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
[QUOTE=firstdown]I don't think Cory would sign a 1 year deal he is looking for a big pay day. He was going to receive a little over five mil this year with Phil.[/QUOTE]


The thing about it is, this late into the preseason I don't think anyone will pay him that much. He's gonna have to settle for something less than what he's looking for. And he will most likely receive just a 1 yr deal.

FRPLG 08-30-2005 11:26 AM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
[QUOTE=Redskins_P]The thing about it is, this late into the preseason I don't think anyone will pay him that much. He's gonna have to settle for something less than what he's looking for. And he will most likely receive just a 1 yr deal.[/QUOTE]
Someone will pay him and pay him good. This late in the season is irrelevant to a team who needs a pass rush.

firstdown 08-30-2005 11:27 AM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
[QUOTE=Redskins_P]The thing about it is, this late into the preseason I don't think anyone will pay him that much. He's gonna have to settle for something less than what he's looking for. And he will most likely receive just a 1 yr deal.[/QUOTE]I would think that with his talent he could pick up a 3 to 5 year deal and a D tackle can pick up a D pretty quick.

Schneed10 08-30-2005 11:45 AM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
[QUOTE=firstdown]I would think that with his talent he could pick up a 3 to 5 year deal and a D tackle can pick up a D pretty quick.[/QUOTE]

I don't think so. I think it's in Simon's best interest to sign a one-year deal and then try to get his big payday next summer. At this point, the number of teams that can shell out a big signing bonus is very small. He doesn't have a lot of negotiating partners when it comes to a big contract.

I think he'll push for a 1-year deal when he realizes that nobody can afford to give him a big bonus right now. I don't think we could afford him though, I think he'd get at least $3 million for one year of play. Plus I like our DTs. Griffin is obviously awesome at penetrating and Salavea complements him so well because he's so stout against the run. Boschetti is playing really well too.

MTK 08-30-2005 12:01 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
So we should sign another injured WR to replace Jacobs? Doesn't sound like a good plan to me.

As for Simon, if he came super cheap I'd be all for it, but I highly doubt we could fit him under our cap.

monkrules 08-30-2005 12:11 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
Hell yea we sould make an attempt, Think about it remeber when dan the man snyder wanted santana moss in the draft & didn't get him, we'll we have him now, Remember when he wanted peter warrick & we didn't draft him, we'll dan can add him to his wall of glory,

Mike Costa
aka mcredskins

firstdown 08-30-2005 12:31 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10]I don't think so. I think it's in Simon's best interest to sign a one-year deal and then try to get his big payday next summer. At this point, the number of teams that can shell out a big signing bonus is very small. He doesn't have a lot of negotiating partners when it comes to a big contract.

I think he'll push for a 1-year deal when he realizes that nobody can afford to give him a big bonus right now. I don't think we could afford him though, I think he'd get at least $3 million for one year of play. Plus I like our DTs. Griffin is obviously awesome at penetrating and Salavea complements him so well because he's so stout against the run. Boschetti is playing really well too.[/QUOTE]I know we could not afford him but he let 5mil go so I would think that he would be looking for more money. Their are several teams that have pleny of cap room for him. I would think that his agent has a feel for the market and thats why they they did not sign the 5mil deal with Philly. I could be wrong of course.

Schneed10 08-30-2005 12:48 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
[QUOTE=firstdown]I know we could not afford him but he let 5mil go so I would think that he would be looking for more money. Their are several teams that have pleny of cap room for him. I would think that his agent has a feel for the market and thats why they they did not sign the 5mil deal with Philly. I could be wrong of course.[/QUOTE]

Actually reports here in Eagle-town are saying that he was planning on coming in and signing the tender this week to play for the $5 million. The Eagles heard that, and they pulled the offer off the table so they could have cap room to resign a few other players (maybe Brian Westbrook, John Runyan, Sheldon Brown?) to long term extensions.

Reid let him go because he felt he has good DTs already in Rayburn, Patterson, Grasmanis, and Hollis Thomas. If he brought Simon back he would have had to cut a pretty good DT just in the roster numbers game. But the move also gives them $15 million in cap room right now. Imagine that. They can give Brian Westbrook a $10 million bonus if they want, in the form of a roster bonus so the cap figure hits all this year. Then next year and beyond, Westbrook would count against the cap as if he were some rookie 5th rounder. I hate them so much, but they're the masters of smart cap management.

mooby 08-30-2005 12:50 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
I just heard that Peerless Price is being released from the Falcons, do we have the cap room to sign him, or should we go after Peter Warrick or Corey Simon?

TheMalcolmConnection 08-30-2005 01:03 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
I think we're good on WRs right now.

SmootSmack 08-30-2005 01:30 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
Man, Peerless has really been a bust ever since he's been without Eric Moulds on the other side hasn't he?

diehardskin2982 08-30-2005 01:33 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
i'd try to go after Koren Robinson, after his rehab he would be cheap (1 year big on encentives) and a change of scenary may do him well like shawn springs

paulskinsfan 08-30-2005 01:36 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
Peerless is the perfect No. 2 receiver. As for Simon's payday, its too late in the game for a team to pony up a big deal without cutting a few of their players, I look for a 1 year deal as well. By the way, Im not saying we should sign either player, but if Warrick isn't signed soon, I think he's worth a shot, and we could cut our losses on Jacobs before he suffers another hangnail.

MTK 08-30-2005 01:55 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
Koren Robinson?

The guy is a bust who can't stay away from the bottle.

No thanks.

MTK 08-30-2005 01:58 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]Peerless is the perfect No. 2 receiver. As for Simon's payday, its too late in the game for a team to pony up a big deal without cutting a few of their players, I look for a 1 year deal as well. By the way, Im not saying we should sign either player, but if Warrick isn't signed soon, I think he's worth a shot, and we could cut our losses on Jacobs before he suffers another hangnail.[/QUOTE]

Why are you so high on Warrick, a guy who's had more than his share of injury problems? He's had knee and leg problems the past couple of years.

firstdown 08-30-2005 02:03 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10]Actually reports here in Eagle-town are saying that he was planning on coming in and signing the tender this week to play for the $5 million. The Eagles heard that, and they pulled the offer off the table so they could have cap room to resign a few other players (maybe Brian Westbrook, John Runyan, Sheldon Brown?) to long term extensions.

Reid let him go because he felt he has good DTs already in Rayburn, Patterson, Grasmanis, and Hollis Thomas. If he brought Simon back he would have had to cut a pretty good DT just in the roster numbers game. But the move also gives them $15 million in cap room right now. Imagine that. They can give Brian Westbrook a $10 million bonus if they want, in the form of a roster bonus so the cap figure hits all this year. Then next year and beyond, Westbrook would count against the cap as if he were some rookie 5th rounder. I hate them so much, but they're the masters of smart cap management.[/QUOTE]From what your saying he realy shot himself in the foot. He held out and gave the other players a chance to play and they knock him right out of a job and about 5 mil. LOL

Paintrain 08-30-2005 02:04 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
I can definitely see us signing Peerless Price.. He's a HUGE upgrade from Thrash at the #3 receiver, that pushes Thrash to #4 where Dyson probably was and Dyson will be cut.. Price has a history with Gregg Williams from Buffalo where they wanted to keep him but couldn't afford him. He can play, he's just not a #1.. That WR rotation of Moss, Patten and Price all of the sudden is very potent... I hope the FO is going to jump all over that but I kind of doubt they will..

I don't want to see him end up in Philly because T.O. and Price is pretty lethal as well...

paulskinsfan 08-30-2005 02:05 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Why are you so high on Warrick, a guy who's had more than his share of injury problems? He's had knee and leg problems the past couple of years.[/QUOTE]

Im not "high on Warrick" for millions and millions of dollars. All Im saying is that this late in the preseason, if we can get him cheap, we might want to sign him. He has been fairly productive in the past, certainly more so than Taylor Jacobs. If he would sign for the vet. minimum, or close to the min. then he may be worth a look and we may want to send Mr. Jacobs out to Victoria Secret for a new set of panties.

That Guy 08-30-2005 02:18 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
I think we're good, at this point a new WR might not be useful for a while, the skins would have to check his conditioning, the QB wouldn't know the guy that well, etc.

I'd take price over warrick though, that's not very close.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 08-30-2005 02:41 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Man, Peerless has really been a bust ever since he's been without Eric Moulds on the other side hasn't he?[/QUOTE]

He's definately been a bust in Atlanta, but I think Vick really hurt him. Vick never looks to his wideouts to throw the ball; he pretty much just runs the ball or passes to his TEs or RBs. I saw a lot of Falcons games last year where wideouts were open but Vick didn't pass the ball to them.

jermus22 08-30-2005 03:00 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
I like our d-line already, why bother adding another guy for just one year? As for Jacobs, it's hard to say. He's extremely talented, but he's also very brittle. I probably wouldn't bother looking for another receiver since we still have plenty of competition there.

diehardskin2982 08-30-2005 03:03 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Koren Robinson?

The guy is a bust who can't stay away from the bottle.

No thanks.[/QUOTE]

:laughing2
That kills me how u guys write someone up so quick to be a washed up...

The guy has only been in the league 5years getting over 400 yards each year

While price has been in the league for 7, and guess what, they have very similar stats. Only difference is Koren has more size, Price has more speed. plus the past 2 years they have gotten the same amount of touchdowns. Koren will not be brought in here as a Number 1. We have a number 1, and a 2, he would have to work his way up like everyone else. As for the concentration issues, they may be not as bad as everyone thinks... All the recievers in seattle couldn't catch, even the greatest Jerry Rice dropped ball out there.

:party-smi The drinking issues, it may not be as bad as the media made it out to be. I think he was a scapegoat. A couple of years ago Springs was "washed up" before he came to us. Koren is going to be the cheapest and most productive solution. justify to me why he wouldn't be.

Counter-Tre 08-30-2005 03:08 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
I would be surprised if Philly didn't snatch up Price. As far as Warrick is concerned, word is the Pats are interested.

paulskinsfan 08-30-2005 03:10 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
The problem with Koren Robinson is, well, he's a moron. That idiot showed up for his jail time DRUNK! So he knew when he was going to report to jail well in advance, and he still showed up drunk. That's just pathetic, ya can't teach basic intelligence. If we take a receiver cheap, Id stick with either Price or Warrick.

MTK 08-30-2005 03:15 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]:laughing2
That kills me how u guys write someone up so quick to be a washed up...

The guy has only been in the league 5years getting over 400 yards each year

While price has been in the league for 7, and guess what, they have very similar stats. Only difference is Koren has more size, Price has more speed. plus the past 2 years they have gotten the same amount of touchdowns. Koren will not be brought in here as a Number 1. We have a number 1, and a 2, he would have to work his way up like everyone else. As for the concentration issues, they may be not as bad as everyone thinks... All the recievers in seattle couldn't catch, even the greatest Jerry Rice dropped ball out there.

:party-smi The drinking issues, it may not be as bad as the media made it out to be. I think he was a scapegoat. A couple of years ago Springs was "washed up" before he came to us. Koren is going to be the cheapest and most productive solution. justify to me why he wouldn't be.[/QUOTE]

I said he was a bust, not washed up.

At this point in his career he is a bust, he's had one quality season out of 4, and for the most part he's been a big disappointment.

The guy is a mess off the field and in turn it's really hurt his game on the field.

If he can get cleaned up he's a talented guy, but he's got a lot to prove.

Personally I wouldn't waste my time with him.

diehardskin2982 08-30-2005 03:17 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
price or warrick aren't going to be cheap, thats the problem. Koren will be. Darrell gardner was a beast for us and he has had plus continues to have personal problems. I still have not seen one reason on football field, not to sign Koren

paulskinsfan 08-30-2005 03:24 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
I'll bet that either Price or Warrick, one of the two, will be signed for less than 2 mill.

MTK 08-30-2005 03:35 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
If I had to, I'd take Price over Robinson or Warrick.

But right now I'd stand pat with what we've got.

backrow 08-30-2005 04:05 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
According to the AJC (Atlanta Journal Constitution), Price has attitude problems.

diehardskin2982 08-30-2005 04:10 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
what do ya know another smear campaign. Some teams do that to deter rivals to pickup their players

firstdown 08-30-2005 04:14 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]The problem with Koren Robinson is, well, he's a moron. That idiot showed up for his jail time DRUNK! So he knew when he was going to report to jail well in advance, and he still showed up drunk. That's just pathetic, ya can't teach basic intelligence. If we take a receiver cheap, Id stick with either Price or Warrick.[/QUOTE]What happens to you if you show up for jail drunk?

MTK 08-30-2005 04:21 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
[QUOTE=firstdown]What happens to you if you show up for jail drunk?[/QUOTE]

He was just getting loosened up, c'mon nothing wrong with a little toddy before heading into jail.

:rolleyes:

paulskinsfan 08-30-2005 04:38 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
[QUOTE=firstdown]What happens to you if you show up for jail drunk?[/QUOTE]

Well in bonehead's case, he entered into in-patient rehab immediately in order to avoid a 364 day jail sentence! I can handle arrogance, but ignorance pisses me off.

Gmanc711 08-30-2005 04:41 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
I'd bet that Price goes somewhere like Philadelphia. I think he can be a good reciver, he just cant be "THE" reciver. He's not good if hes the number one guy and when he has no one to take the pressure off him.

firstdown 08-30-2005 04:45 PM

Maybe he thought they would send him home to sober up. Or maybe he was out with Gardner and said (oh shit I have to go to jail) and Taylor gave him a ride.

BrudLee 08-30-2005 04:48 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Koren Robinson?

The guy is a bust who can't stay away from the bottle.

No thanks.[/QUOTE]
If you're looking for a mediocre receiver who drinks too much, I'm a lot cheaper than Robinson.

STPainmaker 08-30-2005 07:02 PM

Re: Any last minute free agent pickups?
 
[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]The problem with Koren Robinson is, well, he's a moron. That idiot showed up for his jail time DRUNK! So he knew when he was going to report to jail well in advance, and he still showed up drunk. That's just pathetic, ya can't teach basic intelligence. If we take a receiver cheap, Id stick with either Price or Warrick.[/QUOTE]


If we brought this guy in for pennies it might be worth it. Send him to rehab, see how he does in Skins country. He had a lot of potential, maybe he can clean up his act. I think alot of teams could benefit from him if he was put in the right situation.(Recall Chris Carter.)
Is it really a risk if we bring him in for nothing.


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