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Kope 10-30-2005 05:02 PM

Wtf?
 
What team was that? It sure wasnt the skins of the past two years. We cannot stop off tackle runs to the right. Brunell went back to last year. Pat Ramsey looked like a rookie. Robert Royal dropped 4 (at least) passes- everypne else droped at least one. We did everything we could to play like the Niners last week. This was the last thing I expected. About the only person who played a game was Cooley - and he fumbled too.

No idea where that came from. No idea what comes next. The only thing I know is I would hate to be a Skin next week during practice.

We will learn much in the next two weeks.

P.S. I think I will take a break from boards/ articles/ meadia till after next weeks game. Wonder if I can stay drunk for a week :(

mooby 10-30-2005 05:03 PM

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i don't think i will be looking at many media articles or such this week. nothing can console me about this loss.

Gmanc711 10-30-2005 05:51 PM

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Seriously, that was beyond horrible. I seriously cant think of a single solitary positive to come from that game. It was so fucking bad.

SUNRA 10-30-2005 05:56 PM

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No team beats the Redskins like the Redskins. Don't worry it's far from over in the race for the NFC East. It was kind of wierd to see our team playing without any spirit and really out of the entire game.

offiss 10-30-2005 06:21 PM

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That's what happen's when your measuring stick is the 49'ers, Tiki ran for a carreer high against a top rated defense, while Clinton did nothing against one of the worst rated defenses in the NFL, no doubt who the better back is, although I believe Clinton would take Tiki in a cartwheel contest.

It is also official our O-line is so ridiculously overated it's not even funny, we have all the names, the Giants have a bunch of nobodies and guess who dominated?

Our O-line is no match for a good defensive line, the problem with Brunell today? He didn't have that huge buffer to throw like he has had the last few weeks, he did have some time to throw just not comfortable time, there were alway's defenders around him, further more I can't help but believe that Ray Brown at this point in his carreer is really a solution at backup, Wilson did a nice job last season why we didn't hang on to a young lineman to keep Brown makes no sense, Brown is going no where fast.

Allstar Lavar really made a huge difference today as well, what a playmaker, the guy can't even make a routine tackle, Shockey went through him like a hot knife through butter, and is it me or did all the Giants big runs go right through his area?


Here's my all packup team, as in they should pack their things and hit the road.

Samuels
Lavar
Portis

I could only imagine the kind of O-linemen we could have right now for what these guy's are being paid.

SUNRA 10-30-2005 06:28 PM

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Wait a minute. Samuels was injured early in the second quarter. He's been solid so far this season.

skinsguy 10-30-2005 06:41 PM

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Yeah, this loss cannot be blamed on one, two, or three particular player(s). The entire team played horribly. The defense, as a unit, is getting worse in their tackling each week. Our offensive line couldn't protect the quarterback. I saw NO decent protection for Brunell or Ramsey. Only a play or two did I see either QB have time to set and throw. The receivers couldn't get open downfield and when they were open, they dropped the football. Portis has been playing hurt. This is a team loss - everybody has a share in the blame from every player to every coach down to the waterboy.

MTK 10-30-2005 06:41 PM

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LOL and out comes the chicken littles

wilsowilso 10-30-2005 06:42 PM

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Brunell could not throw deep in that stadium and the Giants gameplanned for it. I don't know why, but his arm looked old like last year. Even Manning's passes looked ugly, but he is used to that god awful place. If this offense can't threaten deep then we are plain vanilla. I hope Portis starts to take this job more seriously. He doesn't really scare anyone like he did in Denver. Right now he is way overpaid. Lastly it appears Wynn and Daniels are not stopping the run and seeing as how neither has had a sack in like two years what are they doing on the field? I think Lavar needs to be a full time DE.

skinsguy 10-30-2005 06:46 PM

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Like I said, this loss can't be blamed on one particular player. This was a team loss. Wasn't just Brunell's, Portis', or Lavar's. I'm sure people will find a way to blame it one one of the three, but the team as a whole didn't show up to play.

MTK 10-30-2005 06:48 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsguy]Like I said, this loss can't be blamed on one particular player. This was a team loss. Wasn't just Brunell's, Portis', or Lavar's. I'm sure people will find a way to blame it one one of the three, but the team as a whole didn't show up to play.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

Unfortunately it's much easier and convenient to point out a couple of goats than to look at the deeper problems.

SmootSmack 10-30-2005 06:51 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsguy]This is a team loss - everybody has a share in the blame from every player to every coach down to the waterboy.[/QUOTE]

Sigh....if only we had Bobby Boucher today

skinsguy 10-30-2005 07:00 PM

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Sigh....if only we had Bobby Boucher today[/QUOTE]

His mama told him NFL foosball is the devil!

Jamaican'Skin 10-30-2005 07:02 PM

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I think that the Giants were way more inspired due to the loss of Mara, and we just came out flat. The guys came out too lax. They beat up on a weak San Fran team, and their egos were boosted. Its funny how all of a sudden LaVar, Brunnell, and Portis need to leave this week, and after an emotional win next week, we're so proud of them. Fans here need to stop being so fickle. We messed up bad this week, so what? We go to practise and work hard and come out ready for the Beagles. The world is not over, its still early in the season, and we have a ton of football left. One loss does not mean we need a team overhaul

MTK 10-30-2005 07:03 PM

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[QUOTE=Jamaican'Skin]I think that the Giants were way more inspired due to the loss of Mara, and we just came out flat. The guys came out too lax. They beat up on a weak San Fran team, and their egos were boosted. Its funny how all of a sudden LaVar, Brunnell, and Portis need to leave this week, and after an emotional win next week, we're so proud of them. Fans here need to stop being so fickle. We messed up bad this week, so what? We go to practise and work hard and come out ready for the Beagles. The world is not over, its still early in the season, and we have a ton of football left. One loss does not mean we need a team overhaul[/QUOTE]

Word, plenty of season left, way too early to toss in the towel.

ST21 10-30-2005 09:09 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsguy]Like I said, this loss can't be blamed on one particular player. This was a team loss. Wasn't just Brunell's, Portis', or Lavar's. I'm sure people will find a way to blame it one one of the three, but the team as a whole didn't show up to play.[/QUOTE]


Sure it is.....you always blame the superstars for let downs....

EEich 10-30-2005 09:17 PM

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I think the team bus drove through a wormhole and the offense found themselves in 2004... The defense missed the bus entirely.

scowan 10-30-2005 09:32 PM

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I'm just glad it was one week. Yuk!!! I was watching with a friend and we always watch to the bitter end. But I left his house mid-way thru the 3rd QTR. I was obvious at that point it was not going to get any better.

redrock-skins 10-30-2005 09:39 PM

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The players really should give their paycheck back or donate it to charity for this game.

I know I was calling to remain calm regardless of the outcome today and to some extent I am, but I never envisoned such a pitiful performance today.

BigSKINBauer 10-30-2005 09:43 PM

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[QUOTE=redrock-skins]The players really should give their paycheck back or donate it to charity for this game.

I know I was calling to remain calm regardless of the outcome today and to some extent I am, but I never envisoned such a pitiful performance today.[/QUOTE]
i agree, any redskins players or coaches. save the bigskinbauer fund, all donations are accepted, please cash only

please donate to our sister foundation
Get bigskinbauer a nice car for his dates, again all donations are accepted and please cash only

skinsguy 10-30-2005 10:25 PM

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Each game the Skins lose, I should be able to take one paycheck from a player of my choice. What can I say, I'm trying to buy a house! :)

That Guy 10-30-2005 10:55 PM

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glad its over, at 19-0 i already got over the shock... man i hope they get this fixed fast.

redrock-skins 10-31-2005 01:53 AM

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Is this the worst loss (performance-wise) in years? We've had some bad ones, but even our crappy teams never played this horrible in all facets of the game like this one.

5RINGS 10-31-2005 02:04 AM

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]No team beats the Redskins like the Redskins. [/QUOTE]

I am sure that would be nice if it were true, but it isn't.

You did not have any success at stopping the run. None. Thirty-six points for the Giants.

You offense appeared to play as if they had money on the Giants. Zero points for the Redskins.


You didn't beat yourselves, the Giants beat you, now you have Philly next week I believe. How is this team going ot respond?

Luxorreb 10-31-2005 02:11 AM

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I'm all for the Redskins giving away their checks this week. I think Ryan Clark should be exempt as well as Hall. Everyone else should pass on the check and forward them to someone who works hard when it needs to happen. This week perhaps forward the checks to the Broncos and Niners. The team will rebound next week in Prime Time. Not to worry, not to worry there is a new fiesta in the making...

BigSKINBauer 10-31-2005 06:36 AM

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:biggthump pass the checks to the officials

joethiesmanfan 10-31-2005 07:27 AM

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All I want to say is this was an anomaly. No way in hell this happens again. One factor too many ex-Redskins on the Giants. Two I think our run defense was exposed again we've all saw the break out runs starting with Shaun Alexander. thanks Wellington Mara now the next time we play the giants Eli is dinner. They were getting to him at the beginning but that sweep left play we couldnt stop it. Walt harris was a mismatch on Plax and he missed a sack and wiffed on one of the big runs for Tiki ran right past him he was unblocked. And the referees kept giving everything to the giants wouldnt let us get in a rhythm. Let's move on. Now singing gloom and doom just yet.

PSUSkinsFan21 10-31-2005 09:23 AM

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[QUOTE=Jamaican'Skin]I think that the Giants were way more inspired due to the loss of Mara, and we just came out flat. The guys came out too lax. They beat up on a weak San Fran team, and their egos were boosted. Its funny how all of a sudden LaVar, Brunnell, and Portis need to leave this week, and after an emotional win next week, we're so proud of them. Fans here need to stop being so fickle. We messed up bad this week, so what? We go to practise and work hard and come out ready for the Beagles. The world is not over, its still early in the season, and we have a ton of football left. One loss does not mean we need a team overhaul[/QUOTE]

Absolutely agree Jamaican.

Fact is, we got outplayed. Every single guy on our defense missed tackles. Everybody on our offensive line got beat. Brunell was terrible, the WRs were terrible, Cooley put forth a good effort but still fumbled. We just got beat in every aspect of the game. But none of this changes the fact that it is still just one loss. That's it, just one loss.

The Eagles got killed yesterday by a team that we hung around all day, the Bucs lost to a team we just beat by 35 points............should those teams pack it up for the season and start calling for the dismissal of players or coaches? Of course not........and neither should we.

The players got embarrassed yesterday and they [u]should[/u] be pissed off about that. So, it's time to focus that anger on beating the Eagles and breaking T.O. in half.

Southpaw 10-31-2005 09:56 AM

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[QUOTE=offiss]That's what happen's when your measuring stick is the 49'ers, Tiki ran for a carreer high against a top rated defense, while Clinton did nothing against one of the worst rated defenses in the NFL, no doubt who the better back is, although I believe Clinton would take Tiki in a cartwheel contest.

Allstar Lavar really made a huge difference today as well, what a playmaker, the guy can't even make a routine tackle, Shockey went through him like a hot knife through butter, and is it me or did all the Giants big runs go right through his area?

Here's my all packup team, as in they should pack their things and hit the road.

Samuels
Lavar
Portis
[/QUOTE]

The Washington playcallers made no attempt to get Portis going. That was apparent by the fact that he got FOUR carries yesterday. On top of the fact that he got a stinger, early in the first quarter.

Samuels got hurt early and didn't return. The only sack the he was directly responsible for was the one where Brunell had a good 4 or 5 seconds to get rid of the ball and didn't.

Yes, LaVar slipped off of Shockey, but Shockey's not exactly a weakling. And actually, he wasn't even on the field for the long runs, and guess who was severely out of position on the second run? Yeah... Holdman.

goldbergscott 10-31-2005 10:36 AM

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How come Chad Morton is soo pumped up as a Giant? As a Redskin this guy was sooo low key / lethargic - I used to fall asleep during his runbacks. What's the deal here ...?

CrazyCanuck 10-31-2005 01:28 PM

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[QUOTE=That Guy]glad its over, at 19-0 i already got over the shock... man i hope they get this fixed fast.[/QUOTE]

That's funny, at 19-0 I was still glued to my TV saying stuff like:

"Ok, the half's over. We'll regroup. We're receiving the 2nd half kickoff. Let's drive down the field and make it 19-7 and we're back in the game."

Then Betts fumbled the kickoff...


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