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Sammy Baugh Fan 10-30-2005 07:25 PM

Make a bed, lay in it.
 
I thought it was PATHETIC today to have Mark B. [#8] in the game stinking it up, not making a single play all game long and when our team "gives up" we throw Patrick in there to take the rest of the hits.

The Skins did not put PR in the game to give us a chance to win but to be the end of the game whipping boy. That's pathetic and the whole team and I mean WHOLE team needs to tell him how SORRY they are.

NOT ONE of them showed up today.

There was not one single redskins player I have seen that showed up today ready to play...let along win.

I'm a Gibbs is Great" guy but when a whole team doesn't show up it's in his lap for not having them ready to play.

The giANTS ain't that great to beat us like that.

We failed ourselves.

Patrick got to be the late game sacrificial whipping boy.
~shakes head at the whole team

Pack a lunch folks as we head to a pissed off Philly.

peace
mike

MTK 10-30-2005 07:27 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
Not sure what the point of this rant is.

When you're up big you pull your guys to not risk injury.

Same goes for when you're down big and the game is out of reach, you pull the starters to not risk injury.

Sammy Baugh Fan 10-30-2005 07:32 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
The point is....... GIBBS GAVE UP
The Team was not Ready.
WE through Ramsey to the wolves.
Brunell and the rest Stunk.

???
No point to my "rant"? Rant?

ok, I get it.
Nice of you to reply to THIS thread of mine Matty.

peace
mike
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MTK 10-30-2005 07:33 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan]
ok, I get it.
Nice of you to reply to THIS thread of mine Matty.

peace
mike
<><[/QUOTE]

As opposed to?

Sammy Baugh Fan 10-30-2005 07:34 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?p=118585#post118585[/url]

~cough

Sammy Baugh Fan 10-30-2005 07:35 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=8788[/url]

MTK 10-30-2005 07:37 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
First off, this is the first I'm hearing about this. Between watching the game today and doing other things, this got by me.

I'll look everything over and address it soon.

Sammy Baugh Fan 10-30-2005 07:44 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
I guess I wish Brunell would have stayed in there trying to win.
At what point does an army give up and start throwing in guys to be killed?
NEVER.

There was time to win IF a team showed up is my point.

peace

skinsguy 10-30-2005 07:51 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
There was no way we were going to come back on the Giants today, that is the reason why Gibbs pulled Brunell. What good is it to keep Brunell in there and risk him getting injured (the way players were getting injured,) and then to have to go into our next tough games without 'em. It's not like we were only down by a couple TDs. If we couldn't get anything at all going in three quarters, how were we to comeback in this game in the fourth?

Sammy Baugh Fan 10-30-2005 07:59 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
May I quote YOU quoting Winston Churchill....


"Don't give up! Never, ever, give up!"

So is your quote wrong?
Gibbs is wrong not to follow it?

Thanks in advance




Don't give up! Never, ever, give up!!!!!!!

JWsleep 10-30-2005 08:00 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
The game was lost. Some times you have to face up and say, hey, it's not our day. You pull the starters and that's that. PR is the backup QB. That is his job.

Now we move on to next week and the eagles. That's life in the NFL.

SUNRA 10-30-2005 08:02 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan]I thought it was PATHETIC today to have Mark B. [#8] in the game stinking it up, not making a single play all game long and when our team "gives up" we throw Patrick in there to take the rest of the hits.

The Skins did not put PR in the game to give us a chance to win but to be the end of the game whipping boy. That's pathetic and the whole team and I mean WHOLE team needs to tell him how SORRY they are.

NOT ONE of them showed up today.

There was not one single redskins player I have seen that showed up today ready to play...let along win.

I'm a Gibbs is Great" guy but when a whole team doesn't show up it's in his lap for not having them ready to play.

The giANTS ain't that great to beat us like that.

We failed ourselves.

Patrick got to be the late game sacrificial whipping boy.
~shakes head at the whole team

Pack a lunch folks as we head to a pissed off Philly.

peace
mike[/QUOTE]

Actually we're pissed off more than they are because we loss to a team that wasn't better than us before today. The Eagle actually come to us for an ass whipping.

skinsguy 10-30-2005 08:02 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
My quote is addressed to the season as a whole. Sometimes you have to realize the battle for that day is lost, so you regroup and live to fight another day. Again I ask, we keep Brunell in there and get him injured, then how does that help us down the stretch? It doesn't.

Sammy Baugh Fan 10-30-2005 08:04 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
That's yer "opinion".
I say let him stand by his playing. If he falls [more than sucking all game] we put the next guy in and try and win.

BigSKINBauer 10-30-2005 08:06 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
man we were optimistic in the chat room saying that we could pull it off and even said that if we had a quarter like Doug williams had in the superbowl that we could score 35 points. THe problem with that is that 35 points wouldn't do it we needed 36 to tie. Next the giants could have taken 2 minutes off each drive minus one where we would use TOs so that is 6 two minute drives by the gints. That gives us 6 minutes to score 36 points. Its just not possible. I wish it was but it just is not.

We may have lost the battle but the war has yet to be decided.

we needed to keep our players healthy for more battles

skinsguy 10-30-2005 08:07 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
Well, putting this into perspective, this isn't a war we're fighting, this is a freakin' football game. I trust Joe Gibbs to know a little more about coaching football than Winston Churchill.

Gmanc711 10-30-2005 08:07 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]man we were optimistic in the chat room saying that we could pull it off and even said that if we had a quarter like Doug williams had in the superbowl that we could score 35 points. THe problem with that is that 35 points wouldn't do it we needed 36 to tie. Next the giants could have taken 2 minutes off each drive minus one where we would use TOs so that is 6 two minute drives by the gints. That gives us 6 minutes to score 36 points. Its just not possible. I wish it was but it just is not.

We may have lost the battle but the war has yet to be decided.

we needed to keep our players healthy for more battles[/QUOTE]

LOL, I dont know man. Bless your heart, you seemed to never give up until the clock said zero.

BigSKINBauer 10-30-2005 08:13 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
[QUOTE=Gmanc711]LOL, I dont know man. Bless your heart, you seemed to never give up until the clock said zero.[/QUOTE]
to the jury i present exhibit A: September 19, 2005 after midnight MNF(Tuesday morning) Redskins vs. Cowboys.

For some reason i had a feeling in the beginning of the 4th of the cowpukes game and said that we were gonna upset them the way they did us so many times before. This game felt EXACTLY like that one. It just had a different outcome. obviously we were well over our heads in this game but hey, keep the faith people keep the faith. No one in this CONFERENCE can beat us as far as i am concerned and we all know what that means.... SUPERB...nah

mooby 10-30-2005 08:16 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
If we don't bitch slap the Eagles next week, I will be sore. I want them to come out next week pissed off and ready to go wild. There is no way the Eagles come in our house and beat us. Who's with me?

BigSKINBauer 10-30-2005 08:21 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
whoever is lucky enough to go to the eagle game go buck wild. Go crazy, go insane, go early, get loud, cheer our players who had a horrible performance a week before, and be supportive. We can win our next couple. This game is a slap in the face, we got full of ourselves. Our players were leading every stastical catagory, we were dressing up and bragging about 3 TDs, we were rapping with LARRRY LANDOVVER, the media was interviewing us asking what made us so good, we were saying that we had a MVP on the team, We had a jerry rice record breaker, we had a comeback player, we a had the head coach of the year, we had the NFC owned, and that we had a coach that at the end of the year would be proclaimed the best coach in history. We were full of ourselves.

I am glad we lost big. sure its embarassing and the media will be horrible this week, but remember its a war not a battle and this will help us in the war

MTK 10-30-2005 08:26 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
It's not called giving up, it's called being smart.

Sammy Baugh Fan 10-30-2005 08:31 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
Must be a new "hip" translation then.

When you throw in the towel the majority of the world sees it as giving up, quitting, being ok with losing.

I'm not from the new generation I guess that sees quiting as being "smart".
IMHO

peace

BigSKINBauer 10-30-2005 08:33 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
i must be a new generation hipster

i understand, like gmanc said i felt we could win all the way through but really it was the hip thing to do. we couldn't risk an injury to moss or brunell, our boys were falling left and right and i still don't know the story on samuels. lets hope for the best but we needed to get out and get out fast

Sammy Baugh Fan 10-30-2005 08:38 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
Let me "skool" you young folks

Lossing Never adds a win.
Period.

Losing faster today does not help us get a win quicker in a game to come.

Losing means you lost. Either because you fought hard and lost or GAVE UP.

Losing NEVER helps you win a season and I don't care what "knowlegable fans" think.

A loss add to yer losses...period

peace

skinsguy 10-30-2005 08:46 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
Losing your best quarterback for being too stubborn to take him out of the game when it is out of reach doesn't add wins either, just makes ya look more like the fool.

BigSKINBauer 10-30-2005 09:30 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
"The Skins did not put PR in the game to give us a chance to win but to be the end of the game whipping boy. That's pathetic and the whole team and I mean WHOLE team needs to tell him how SORRY they are."

That is SBF's quote

I agree that we shouldn't have made PR a "wipping boy" we should have put him in to still have a chance. But the thing is the skins didn't bend over and say stick it to me, the first two plays were our biggest plays of the game. We didn't give up, we just put in a lesser QB, Brunell was getting destroyed. We put in a fresh body and we had two good plays that put us into the redzone for the first time. We gave it what we had at the end, even though it wasn't much

I completely agree that we didn't have any heart. we didn't look like we wanted to win.

MTK 10-30-2005 09:54 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
What happens if you lose a starter due to injury when you're down 36-0 in the 4th with 2 minutes to go?

You're potentially throwing away the season just for the sake of being stubborn.

This is one of the strangest discussions I've ever seen, just when you thought you've seen them all! LOL

dblanch66 10-30-2005 09:56 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan]I thought it was PATHETIC today to have Mark B. [#8] in the game stinking it up, not making a single play all game long and when our team "gives up" we throw Patrick in there to take the rest of the hits.

The Skins did not put PR in the game to give us a chance to win but to be the end of the game whipping boy. That's pathetic and the whole team and I mean WHOLE team needs to tell him how SORRY they are.

NOT ONE of them showed up today.

There was not one single redskins player I have seen that showed up today ready to play...let along win.

I'm a Gibbs is Great" guy but when a whole team doesn't show up it's in his lap for not having them ready to play.

The giANTS ain't that great to beat us like that.

We failed ourselves.

Patrick got to be the late game sacrificial whipping boy.
~shakes head at the whole team

Pack a lunch folks as we head to a pissed off Philly.

peace
mike[/QUOTE]
Seriously, bro...you need to calm down in general. It's one game. I thought Sean Taylor played exceptional today. So I'll stay focused on the positives... and that's the only one I can find.

SmootSmack 10-30-2005 10:01 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]This is one of the strangest discussions I've ever seen, just when you thought you've seen them all! LOL[/QUOTE]

I know! How is putting Ramsey in at garbage time this week different from putting him in last week when we were blowing out the Niners? Did the team apologize to him then?

Sammy Baugh Fan 10-30-2005 10:07 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
I've read some pretty strange stuff here at thewarpath.net but I guuess Matty has singled me out today all of a sudden.

"This is one of the strangest discussions I've ever seen, just when you thought you've seen them all!"

I disagree with not playing Mark Brunell and trying to win and Matty makes excuses for throwing in the towel like a loser and he makes that comment towards me. Guess I'm not one of those "knowlegable redskins fans".

I never give up or quit trying to win. You'll need to show me when someone losing helped them win.

Redskins try and win!

SmootSmack 10-30-2005 10:13 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan]I've read some pretty strange stuff here at thewarpath.net but I guuess Matty has singled me out today all of a sudden.

"This is one of the strangest discussions I've ever seen, just when you thought you've seen them all!"

I disagree with not playing Mark Brunell and trying to win and Matty makes excuses for throwing in the towel like a loser and he makes that comment towards me. Guess I'm not one of those "knowlegable redskins fans".

I never give up or quit trying to win. You'll need to show me when someone losing helped them win.

Redskins try and win![/QUOTE]

Seems like you're having a rough day SBF, for whatever reason. Maybe you should just take some time away from the board for a bit. Go read a book, watch some tv, whatever.

Matty isn't trying to start anything with you, neither is anyone else here.

Sammy Baugh Fan 10-30-2005 10:16 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
~asked to leave I see

ok
peace

members can poo on my Lord but if I have an opinion about the team "I" am asked to leave

Thanks
Taf

Yer welcome
peace
mike

Gmanc711 10-30-2005 10:19 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan]~asked to leave I see

ok
peace

members can poo on my Lord but if I have an opinion about the team "I" am asked to leave

Thanks
Taf

Yer welcome
peace
mike[/QUOTE]


You seem like a really really really nice guy, and I've been not wanting to say this because I dont wanna burn any bridges but someone has to say it so it mineas well be me...

why do you have to blow everything out of proportion? This is like the third time this week that somthing has been twisted around and we've gotten in arguments and you're in the middle of it. No one is singling you out or anything. No one is calling you a quitter, but leaving Brunell in to get hurt would be f*cking stupid. Ya know? I think ya just gotta calm down a little man. I'm really really not trying to be disrespectful, but thats just my take.

MTK 10-30-2005 10:20 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan]I've read some pretty strange stuff here at thewarpath.net but I guuess Matty has singled me out today all of a sudden.

"This is one of the strangest discussions I've ever seen, just when you thought you've seen them all!"

I disagree with not playing Mark Brunell and trying to win and Matty makes excuses for throwing in the towel like a loser and he makes that comment towards me. Guess I'm not one of those "knowlegable redskins fans".

I never give up or quit trying to win. You'll need to show me when someone losing helped them win.

Redskins try and win![/QUOTE]

Singled you out?

I'm merely commenting on how odd this topic is, damn dude try to not be so sensitive.

As for calling people out, you've been calling me out all day for missing your complaint post. With 500-700 posts a day around here, from time to time it's inevitable I will miss things.

Just curious what your opinion is of pulling starters with a big lead, how is that any different? Isn't that a form of quitting?

When you're down 36-0, it's a little late to be worrying about being a loser, you already are.

A smart person knows when to accept defeat and when to save their energy for another battle on another day.

Sammy Baugh Fan 10-30-2005 10:22 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
Why is the fact that I am saying I believe you folks are wrong an issue no matter what the subject?

You all disagree all the time but when I say I disagree it's an issue?

Come on guys what kind of double standard is this?

MTK 10-30-2005 10:23 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
huh?

Sammy Baugh Fan 10-30-2005 10:25 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
lol
More insults
"A smart person " -MattyK

Thanks fellow skins fan

SmootSmack 10-30-2005 10:28 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan]lol
More insults
"A smart person " -MattyK

Thanks fellow skins fan[/QUOTE]

Why don't you answer this question Matty posted?

"Just curious what your opinion is of pulling starters with a big lead, how is that any different? Isn't that a form of quitting?"

MTK 10-30-2005 10:29 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan]lol
More insults
"A smart person " -MattyK

Thanks fellow skins fan[/QUOTE]

It's not an insult it's honest confusion on my part.

Gmanc711 10-30-2005 10:32 PM

Re: Make a bed, lay in it.
 
This sh*t is getting rediculous.


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