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It looks rather ominous for us against Dallas. They're playing to make the playoffs (as are we), and have sore memories of the MNF loss. No way they will come out flat for this one. Seems unlikely that Parcells will get swept in the regular season by Gibbs....unless...

Besides the 92,000 rabid fans, the only one thing I can think of that could be a wildcard is A. Brown. I can see him take the opening kickoff to the house, and Fedex would go nuts. Don't know if he has finally learned to catch the ball on the run, but I wish Gibbs is planning on incorporating him into some offensive packages as well. He will surely get open. Dallas can't game plan for Brown when they are focussed on shutting down Moss and Portis. All they can do is hope he drops it. As far as we're concerned, Brown is 50-50. So what? So was Rod Gardner, and we used him in our offense over the last 4 years.

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I'm sure Dallas hasn't forgotten the loss at home, but we are playing for our playoff lives. They are too, but they CAN afford to drop a game.

I'll be one of the 92,000 and it won't be crowd noise that lets the Skins down I'll tell you that.

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We need to be working on a new "wrinkle" in our offense. DAL knows about Moss now. They know we want to run the ball and occasionally dump it off to Cooley in the flats. How about using the ol' flea flicker against Parcells again? How about showing four-WR formations (with Antonio Brown) and mixng up the run and pass? DAL has had tricks up their sleeves since Parcells arrived. We need to have ours.

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[QUOTE=EXoffender]We need to be working on a new "wrinkle" in our offense. DAL knows about Moss now. They know we want to run the ball and occasionally dump it off to Cooley in the flats. How about using the ol' flea flicker against Parcells again? How about showing four-WR formations (with Antonio Brown) and mixng up the run and pass? DAL has had tricks up their sleeves since Parcells arrived. We need to have ours.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't have said it better. Dallas has burned us w/ some good playcalling/wrinkles in the past. We need to show them some different looks as well.

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Our boys need to EXECUTE!

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[QUOTE=Hog1]Our boys need to EXECUTE![/QUOTE]
Hmmm. That sounds like postgame hogwash for a loss against DAL. No perfectly executed play guarantees positive yards or points when your gameplan is too conservative. Aim for the pylons Gibbs, not just the sticks!

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[QUOTE=EXoffender]Hmmm. That sounds like postgame hogwash for a loss against DAL. No perfectly executed play guarantees positive yards or points when your gameplan is too conservative. Aim for the pylons Gibbs, not just the sticks![/QUOTE]

There is truth in your forked tongue kimosabe. However, you can aim wherever you want, no execution=no points. Jerry Rice made the HOF on one play. Is there anyone who hasn't heard of counter tre'. Great execution and it couldn't be stopped. The only point is, even if the D knows what your going to do, blow em' off the ball and run it till' they can stop it (whatever [b]it[/b] might be). Check out the Warpath Q&A with Tony Mcgee. I agree with him, it's not so much about playcalling at this point as it is execution.

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I'm not at all convinced that Antonio Brown is a wildcard or "gamechanger" just because he had one nice kickoff return. I mean, the wedge cleared out every tackler for him - all he had to do was run straight ahead. That's it! No fancy moves - just "run, forrest, run!" Hell, Derrick Dockery could've run back that kickoff...

Jimmy Farris was running along side of him the whole way AND blocking and looked a whole lot faster than Brown. Hmmmm... maybe that's because Ahole Brown was blowing kisses from the 30 yard line. Can't say I'm too impressed with that crap!

If he gets a few more good returns this week AND doesn't cough the ball up - I may start to give him some credit. But a "special weapon" he ain't.

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A.Brown *IS* a wildcard.

he could take one to the house, or muff another one inside the 10. blowing kisses before a play is over is already proof he can't be counted on. he could change the game *either* way.

i think it's definitely best to say we shouldn't need to be thinking about him at ALL, because the game will be firmly hand by the other team members.

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[QUOTE=Ade Jimoh Fan Club]Jimmy Farris was running along side of him the whole way AND blocking and looked a whole lot faster than Brown. Hmmmm... maybe that's because Ahole Brown was blowing kisses from the 30 yard line. Can't say I'm too impressed with that crap![/QUOTE]

Farris is not even close to Brown in terms of straight foot speed. And what was wrong with him blowing a kiss to the crowd? There wasn't a defender within 20 yards of him.

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I loved the blowing kisses to the fans.

It wasn't over the top like other celebrations we're seeing from the likes of Chad Johnson.

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[QUOTE=Southpaw]Farris is not even close to Brown in terms of straight foot speed. And what was wrong with him blowing a kiss to the crowd? There wasn't a defender within 20 yards of him.[/QUOTE]

yeah but the first time he did it was 50yds away from the endzone! within the 10 do your thing, on the 50 grab that ball muff-man.

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[QUOTE=Southpaw]Farris is not even close to Brown in terms of straight foot speed. And what was wrong with him blowing a kiss to the crowd? There wasn't a defender within 20 yards of him.[/QUOTE]

Allow me to enlighten you on a few things:

1) First of all, there was a defender within 5 yards of him - that's why he took a break from his kiss blowing party to kick it in the final 30 yards.

2) Second, Jimmy Farris actually was running a lot faster than Antonio Brown and I will prove it:

2a) Farris runs a 4.37 40 yard dash, and Brown supposedly runs it in 4.18 (not bad!). HOWEVER, consider that if you calculate in the air friction gradient of Brown's arm/hand extending and retracting with each kiss and factor in the diminished lung capacity due to air kisses and whatever he was shouting at the time (I imagine he was saying something like "How you like them apples now, beeatches!?" or "Hee, hee, hee, hee (schoolgirl giggle)").

Simple thermodynamical calculus can be utilized to determine that:

4.18 (starting speed) + 20x0.05x0.183 (estimated 20 air kisses times wind resistance) + 5x0.0129 (estimated 5 schoolgirl giggles) =

4.43 seconds, which is actually slower than Farris' kiss-free time of 4.37.

There you go.

I usually agree w/ Matty - but pre-touchdown celebrations are not cool. We've all seen too many go awry.

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AJFC bringing straight facts, how can you argue with that?? :)

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Question. How would you draw double coverage away from Moss? Line Cooley up wide on the opposite side? Or how about Farris? Brunell never looks his way. And Jacobs isn't feared by any DB in this league and he even doubts his own ability to get open! If Gibbs can use Sean Taylor on offense as a decoy, why not Antonio Brown? Oh yeah. Taylor was in there mainly to block, as was Thrash. You guys are kidding yourselves if you think we run the ball as well as KC. Where are we ranked in rushing offense? The reason the team wants to run the ball is that they feel there is less room for error (turning the ball over) not that they run the ball exceptionally well consistently.

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[QUOTE=Ade Jimoh Fan Club]Allow me to enlighten you on a few things:

1) First of all, there was a defender within 5 yards of him - that's why he took a break from his kiss blowing party to kick it in the final 30 yards.

2) Second, Jimmy Farris actually was running a lot faster than Antonio Brown and I will prove it:[/QUOTE]

I know this was tongue in cheek, but:

1) The defender you are refering too was the punter, and I assure you, even if he was "5 yards" from him, Antonio Brown knew, just like the rest of us knew, there was no way the punter was going to run him down.

2) Your numbers are impressive, but your forgetting the X-factor in the equation.

Antonio Brown - 40 time ([i]adjusted for kiss celebration[/i]) = 4.43 - 0.2([i]5'10" 173lbs black guy factor[/i]) = 4.23 overall speed.

Jimmy Farris - 40 "kiss-free" time = 4.37 + 0.1[i](6' 200lbs lanky white guy factor) = [/i]4.47 overall speed.

While I appreciate that Jimmy Farris is a relatively fast, lanky white guy(being a somewhat lanky white guy myself), he stills falls short in the speed department when compared to Antonio Brown.:laughing2

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[QUOTE=EXoffender]Question. How would you draw double coverage away from Moss? Line Cooley up wide on the opposite side? Or how about Farris? Brunell never looks his way. And Jacobs isn't feared by any DB in this league and he even doubts his own ability to get open! If Gibbs can use Sean Taylor on offense as a decoy, why not Antonio Brown? Oh yeah. Taylor was in there mainly to block, as was Thrash. You guys are kidding yourselves if you think we run the ball as well as KC. Where are we ranked in rushing offense? The reason the team wants to run the ball is that they feel there is less room for error (turning the ball over) not that they run the ball exceptionally well consistently.[/QUOTE]

KC is number 4 at 142 yards/rushing per game (4.4 per carry). Skins are number 5 at 131 yards/rushing per game (4.2 per carry).

And what's wrong with wanting to run to not turn the ball over, control the clock, manage the tempo of the game, utilize arguably our best player?

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]KC is number 4 at 142 yards/rushing per game (4.4 per carry). Skins are number 5 at 131 yards/rushing per game (4.2 per carry).

And what's wrong with wanting to run to not turn the ball over, control the clock, manage the tempo of the game, utilize arguably our best player?[/QUOTE]I like that.

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[QUOTE=Southpaw]2) Your numbers are impressive, but your forgetting the X-factor in the equation.

Antonio Brown - 40 time ([i]adjusted for kiss celebration[/i]) = 4.43 - 0.2([i]5'10" 173lbs black guy factor[/i]) = 4.23 overall speed.

Jimmy Farris - 40 "kiss-free" time = 4.37 + 0.1[i](6' 200lbs lanky white guy factor) = [/i]4.47 overall speed.

While I appreciate that Jimmy Farris is a relatively fast, lanky white guy(being a somewhat lanky white guy myself), he stills falls short in the speed department when compared to Antonio Brown.:laughing2[/QUOTE]

Wow - I didn't see the race card coming. How come that *white* british dude on the ESPN movie broke the 4 minute mile?! And he was as lanky as they come...

Ok, seriously - here is my plan to take some of the heat off of Santana: Put Art Monk in the game with Taylor Jacobs uniform on. As long as he doesn't take his helmet off, no one would know. Oh wait- yes they would -because TJ would actually be making plays and that would give it away. Never mind, my bad.

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i am really confused.so if i run a 4.21 40 yard dash,its not really 4.21 ?

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[QUOTE=Southpaw]Farris is not even close to Brown in terms of straight foot speed. And what was wrong with him blowing a kiss to the crowd? There wasn't a defender within 20 yards of him.[/QUOTE]
I was there at the 40 Yrd line.....Was a quick kiss to Skins fan...then more at endzone..What a GREAT EFFFIN MEMORY!!!!! Hope he turns out to be a real redskin, so when i tell grandkids they dont go "who?"...

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[QUOTE=hurrykaine]It looks rather ominous for us against Dallas. They're playing to make the playoffs (as are we), and have sore memories of the MNF loss. No way they will come out flat for this one. Seems unlikely that Parcells will get swept in the regular season by Gibbs....unless...

Besides the 92,000 rabid fans, the only one thing I can think of that could be a wildcard is A. Brown. I can see him take the opening kickoff to the house, and Fedex would go nuts. Don't know if he has finally learned to catch the ball on the run, but I wish Gibbs is planning on incorporating him into some offensive packages as well. He will surely get open. Dallas can't game plan for Brown when they are focussed on shutting down Moss and Portis. All they can do is hope he drops it. As far as we're concerned, Brown is 50-50. So what? So was Rod Gardner, and we used him in our offense over the last 4 years.[/QUOTE]
Is A Brown gonna get more snaps at receiver and not just special teams?

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to need for wrinkles

what we need is to dominate the running game for start to finish

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[QUOTE=bertoskins]to need for wrinkles what we need is to dominate the running game for start to finish[/QUOTE]
I beg to differ...we cant just be routine and normal u know parcells will pull out all the stops.... there is no tommorow ..yeah run but be innovative and catch them off guard they will be well prepared for what we normally do...

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[QUOTE=railcon56@comcast.net]Is A Brown gonna get more snaps at receiver and not just special teams?[/QUOTE]

Why don't we just skip the middle man and direct snap to AB? Go Antwaann Randle El on their asses

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Why don't we just skip the middle man and direct snap to AB? Go Antwaann Randle El on their asses[/QUOTE]
awesome lol

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[URL=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/13/AR2005121301686.html]Brown's story[/URL]

this may help explain the kisses... what an incredible story... i had no idea this is what brown went through.

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[QUOTE=itvnetop][url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/13/AR2005121301686.html"]Brown's story[/url]

this may help explain the kisses... what an incredible story... i had no idea this is what brown went through.[/QUOTE]
WOW

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[QUOTE=itvnetop][url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/13/AR2005121301686.html"]Brown's story[/url]

this may help explain the kisses... what an incredible story... i had no idea this is what brown went through.[/QUOTE]

yeah i had no clue. Makes me like him even more. I have liked him from the beginning but i never relized that I didn't know anything about him. I think he will be a big player someday. I hope he takes one to the house sunday and that he plays some more WR

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[QUOTE=itvnetop][URL=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/13/AR2005121301686.html]Brown's story[/URL]

this may help explain the kisses... what an incredible story... i had no idea this is what brown went through.[/QUOTE]


Holy crap! I guess we'll cut 'Tonio a break this time after reading that! Just this once, though....

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go find some kleenex.

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[QUOTE=itvnetop][url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/13/AR2005121301686.html"]Brown's story[/url]

this may help explain the kisses... what an incredible story... i had no idea this is what brown went through.[/QUOTE]

Hell of a story. Just makes me repsect him more!

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Reading that story just makes me like him more too. I hope we try to get him the ball more including a few times passing. The guy seems to have ALOT of HEART and we all know what kind of fuel that can be.

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Player of the Week!

[url]http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=13565[/url]

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[QUOTE=Hog1]Our boys need to EXECUTE![/QUOTE]


not only execute but do it for 4 quarters not 3 quarters.
be aggressive from the start.i would be willing to try just about anything at this point in the season heck go for it ,afterall we have the whole season riding on this game.and i think dallas even knows it too so why not go for broke but do it at a key moment in the game.execution has to be there for the remainder of the season not just this game.

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I will definitely say this so the accusers of blind optimism can read it in black and white: Gibbs made a mistake by cutting Brown loose at the beginning of the season.

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[QUOTE=skinsguy]I will definitely say this so the accusers of blind optimism can read it in black and white: Gibbs made a mistake by cutting Brown loose at the beginning of the season.[/QUOTE]

As we all know that was a big week in which many statements were made about turning over the ball. Ramsey benched for fumbling/turnovers, you had to know even though it may have been a mistake to cut him and I can't recall ever seeing anyone else on this team cut for turnovers and ohh we have had our fair share and this guy cut after one fumble. It was a mistake to cut him, he is very explosive in the few games we have seen him in. He was a victim of circumstances and major player/personnel changes though it was only one. The guy has what it takes to be a good return guy from what I have read and seen from him in his short stint with the Skins. I really hope he succeeds, if I remeber he had some big returns against Dallas, but also that fumble that gave them the ball back at the end of last years game. I can overlook and hope he shows he is the wildcard after that life story.