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SFREDSKIN 02-01-2021 09:04 PM

Re: Around the NFL: Pre-Super Bowl
 
49ers might be making a play for Kirk Cousins, not surprised. [url]https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/49ers-kirk-cousins-matthew-stafford-nfl/?fbclid=IwAR3JNykIvk3tqBOCxquoiZCuFuTULJTK1Wg7Xn45MPi3FRpFyRk7IYEnC_g[/url]

CRedskinsRule 02-01-2021 10:38 PM

Re: Around the NFL: Pre-Super Bowl
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1276331]49ers might be making a play for Kirk Cousins, not surprised. [url]https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/49ers-kirk-cousins-matthew-stafford-nfl/?fbclid=IwAR3JNykIvk3tqBOCxquoiZCuFuTULJTK1Wg7Xn45MPi3FRpFyRk7IYEnC_g[/url][/quote]

From the article:

[quote]Shanahan, who was the offensive coordinator in Washington with Cousins in 2012 and 2013, admitted he didn’t evaluate the 2017 quarterback draft class with Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson as thoroughly as he should, given he knew Cousins would be available the next season.

“I felt very confident that [Cousins] wasn’t going to stay [in Washington],” Shanahan said last month. When you go into a season knowing that a franchise quarterback is going to be available the next year, it made me a lot more picky with what we were looking at.”[/quote]

I just find that hilarious

Chief X_Phackter 02-01-2021 10:44 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1276332]From the article:



I just find that hilarious[/quote]

It is hard to believe that he would admit that. Talk about NOT doing your due diligence.

AnonEmouse 02-02-2021 04:48 AM

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I don't see why a) the Vikings would part with Cousins at this point and b) the 49ers would part with picks for him AND swallow that contract. Seems like yet another 'I'm bored I'll start a rumour' thing:
[url]https://www.dailynorseman.com/2021/2/1/22261021/here-come-the-cousins-trade-rumors[/url]

EdmundDorf 02-02-2021 08:01 AM

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Wishful off-season dreaming by Vikings fans

GridIron26 02-02-2021 08:11 AM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1276333][B]It is hard to believe that he would admit that[/B]. Talk about NOT doing your due diligence.[/quote]

Why is it so hard to believe? I actually think it speaks volumes of Kyle's character and I respect him even more now. Yes Kyle messed up on this big time but he isn't the first and won't be the last coach to whiff on something like this.

Chief X_Phackter 02-02-2021 09:05 AM

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[quote=GridIron26;1276354]Why is it so hard to believe? I actually think it speaks volumes of Kyle's character and I respect him even more now. Yes Kyle messed up on this big time but he isn't the first and won't be the last coach to whiff on something like this.[/quote]

Because he basically admitted that he didn't do his job, that's why. Ok, maybe he's a stand-up guy who can admit when he made a mistake. Good for him. I think it's an epic failure though. Hard to get over that one if I'm his boss.

He's this young up and coming offensive guru seemingly without a QB to effectively run his offense. So he takes it for granted that the one QB he knows well (KC) is going to be available for him, like no other team will bid on him - and he fails to do his due diligence, scour the planet, evaluating every possibility for the right QB for his offense. Especially a young QB coming out of the draft that you can get on a rookie contract - rather than spend 80+M guaranteed. That's why it's hard to believe.

It's still salvageable though. He can dump Garoppolo's contract on the Texans along with five 1st round picks for Watson now, and rewrite history.

Chief X_Phackter 02-02-2021 09:07 AM

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Honestly, I'll bet what [B]actually [/B] happened is he [B]did[/B] evaluate Watson and Mahomes, and he doesn't want to admit that he didn't think they were anything special.

GridIron26 02-02-2021 11:27 AM

Re: Around the NFL: Pre-Super Bowl
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1276359]Because he basically admitted that he didn't do his job, that's why. Ok, maybe he's a stand-up guy who can admit when he made a mistake. Good for him. I think it's an epic failure though. Hard to get over that one if I'm his boss.

He's this young up and coming offensive guru seemingly without a QB to effectively run his offense. So he takes it for granted that the one QB he knows well (KC) is going to be available for him, like no other team will bid on him - and he fails to do his due diligence, scour the planet, evaluating every possibility for the right QB for his offense. Especially a young QB coming out of the draft that you can get on a rookie contract - rather than spend 80+M guaranteed. That's why it's hard to believe.

It's still salvageable though. He can dump Garoppolo's contract on the Texans along with five 1st round picks for Watson now, and rewrite history.[/quote]

Anytime my staff made mistakes, I first will assess the situation and then the staff's work performance history before I discipline the staff for the mistakes. If the staff has a positive history and does not make mistakes often, then I would give the staff a benefit of doubt. I would do the opposite if the staff has a long history of mistakes..

In this case with Kyle, he has shown he knows what he is doing and the lack of DD on QBs in the draft appears to be one time thing (as of what we all know at this point). I would discuss this incident with Kyle if I'm his direct supervisor to prevent this from happening again in the future and not do anything further than that. If it was Adam Gase, I would address this situation differently, something that likely aligns with your approach. Gase has shown that he does not know what he is doing as a coach and whiffed on the DD on QBs in the draft, then this absolutely deserves a close scrutiny and disciplinary action.

But then, every person in a management role have their own opinions on how they should address issues.

MTK 02-02-2021 11:37 AM

Re: Around the NFL: Pre-Super Bowl
 
Plenty of teams whiffed on Mahomes and Watson. I don't think Kyle was the only one that year that didn't do enough homework on them.

mooby 02-02-2021 02:58 PM

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[url]https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1353548943280508928?s=20[/url]

Haha I love this analogy.

skinsfaninok 02-02-2021 03:18 PM

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Thati s great

MTK 02-03-2021 04:31 PM

Re: Around the NFL: Pre-Super Bowl
 
Sad news

[URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30827590/former-nfl-head-coach-marty-schottenheimer-moved-hospice-facility"]Former NFL head coach Marty Schottenheimer moved to hospice facility, family says[/URL]

skinsfaninok 02-03-2021 10:05 PM

Re: Around the NFL: Pre-Super Bowl
 
Marty was a damn good football coach. Sad to hear

Monkeydad 02-04-2021 03:39 PM

Re: Around the NFL: Pre-Super Bowl
 
SB field is painted. End zone colors look great, glad KC used yellow.


[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtQVZdzWgAMLWWb?format=jpg&name=large[/IMG]


Also, anyone else think it's odd that the Bucs, the FIRST team ever to play the Super Bowl in their home stadium, chose to wear their ROAD uniforms for this game? They have a better record in white this year though for what it's worth, and Brady has won more SBs in white instead of colored jerseys.


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