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skinsfaninok 01-09-2021 11:38 PM

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We knew Tampa was going to score , Im just glad the offense and especially Taylor played their ass off.

Nothing to be ashamed of, good season and we can build on this.

I like 4 but i wouldnt say hes Day 1 starter just yet. If you can upgrade with a guy like Stafford you pull the trigger.

We need another WR big time.

Defense was a let down tonight other than Payne.

Chico23231 01-09-2021 11:40 PM

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Rushing defense was disappointing, Oline was inconsistent as Heineken was running for his life half his drop backs and run game was non existent

I thought our receivers responded after a bad first half.

Heineken was great

jamf 01-09-2021 11:41 PM

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Fun game. It wasnt a shitshow.

SFREDSKIN 01-09-2021 11:42 PM

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Our D lost the trench war, Young was contained.

sdskinsfan2001 01-09-2021 11:42 PM

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Outside of Payne, no one on defense played nearly well enough.

O-line played like pudding all night.

Too many dropped passes.

Heinicke is a bad ass. He needs to find a way to gain 20 lbs without becoming fat.

Despite all that, we still hung in there. If we have good offseason, we can win a playoff game next year. Need a couple more pieces.

DynamiteRave 01-09-2021 11:43 PM

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Heinicke could really be a starter. I hope Rivera sees that. But hes most likely gonna need a backup so bring Kyle Allen back.


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Meks 01-09-2021 11:43 PM

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Tampa game plan was good. Tom gets the ball out so fuckin quick.no matter the route. Heineken is my starter. Right now. If he didn't earn himself the option for the team to.draft.around him I don't know what up is. Stafford? No skinsfan, no thank you. Im.building for the future I'm giving #4 the shot to win the job if.he.didnt already. No questions asked


Better luck next year yall

jamf 01-09-2021 11:44 PM

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OLine is overrated. They need help on the left side.

SFREDSKIN 01-09-2021 11:45 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1273346]Heinicke could really be a starter. I hope Rivera sees that. But hes most likely gonna be a backup so bring Kyle Allen back.


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Bring back Heinecken, Allen, draft Ridder or Mac Jones if hes available.

SFREDSKIN 01-09-2021 11:45 PM

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[quote=jamf;1273348]OLine is overrated. They need help on the left side.[/quote]

Cousin Charles.

Chico23231 01-09-2021 11:46 PM

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Tirico and Dungy...man, I like this booth. They call a great game

sdskinsfan2001 01-09-2021 11:46 PM

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[quote=jamf;1273348]OLine is overrated. They need help on the left side.[/quote]

Agreed, they are above average backups but below average starters.

Really hope Charles can contribute next year. Draft 1 more guy, start him, and keep Scherff.

CRedskinsRule 01-09-2021 11:46 PM

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Heinicke isn't under contract. What type of contract would you sign him to?

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skinsfaninok 01-09-2021 11:48 PM

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1273349]Bring back Heinecken, Allen, draft Ridder or Mac Jones if hes available.[/QUOTE]


Ridder is going back but Id definitely draft Mac Jones who would be the starter day 1. I think hes that good/smart at QB. I just dont see Ron doing that, I bet he tries to get a veteran in

skinsfaninok 01-09-2021 11:49 PM

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1273354]Heinicke isn't under contract. What type of contract would you sign him to?

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2 year at most, he had a great night but weve seen Cinderella stories before. Id pump the brakes on him being QB1. Hes like 6 foot 180 pounds. Will have to gain some weight for sure

rome108 01-09-2021 11:53 PM

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I honestly don't think the offense let us down this game, it was the defense.

SFREDSKIN 01-09-2021 11:55 PM

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[quote=rome108;1273361]I honestly don't think the offense let us down this game, it was the defense.[/quote]

I agree, D was contained and why did Turner hardly use McKissick? What the fuck was that?

Meks 01-09-2021 11:58 PM

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Why wouldn't you draft around a very capable qb for twonyears?stop.

sdskinsfan2001 01-09-2021 11:58 PM

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I don't think we threw 1 screen pass all night. Unless you maybe count that horrendous play design on the 2-point conversion attempt to LT.

punch it in 01-09-2021 11:58 PM

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Heineken has a really impressive skill set. Nice touch. Sees the field real well. Smart. Extreme poise to say the least. A really really impressive set of wheels. Made all the right reads and plays tonight. Actually has a pretty strong arm. He showed me something tonight. Im more than ok with him being the starter in week one next year. More than ok. Actually excited about it.

That squib/ onside kick was an amazingly terrible call. Not sure who was responsible but it was the turning point. That was just an easy 7 for Brady.

We need to sure up the oline and probably find a rb. Gibson might be dinged up but I dont think he is as good as some others do. Secondary needs to be sured up in a big way too. MLB and WR. Those are the other two glaring needs. Kicker too. But we are not far off. This team is one off-season away and that did not seem to be the case when the season started.

I feel much better about the immediate future of this team than i did when the season started.

SkinzWin 01-10-2021 12:00 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1273335]We knew Tampa was going to score , Im just glad the offense and especially Taylor played their ass off.

Nothing to be ashamed of, good season and we can build on this.

I like 4 but i wouldnt say hes Day 1 starter just yet. If you can upgrade with a guy like Stafford you pull the trigger.

We need another WR big time.

Defense was a let down tonight other than Payne.[/quote]

I would. Im Team Taylor all the way.

SkinzWin 01-10-2021 12:02 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1273354]Heinicke isn't under contract. What type of contract would you sign him to?

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Whatever he wants.

Coff 01-10-2021 12:02 AM

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Defense lost the game tonight. 500 yards, 30+ points. That was a shitty effort.

SkinzWin 01-10-2021 12:02 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1273352]Tirico and Dungy...man, I like this booth. They call a great game[/quote]

Agree 100%.

sdskinsfan2001 01-10-2021 12:03 AM

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It was damn nice, don't care why, that we got to remain interested all season and into the playoffs. Do it again next year, but with at least 2 more wins.

SkinzWin 01-10-2021 12:04 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1273358]2 year at most, he had a great night but weve seen Cinderella stories before. Id pump the brakes on him being QB1. Hes like 6 foot 180 pounds. Will have to gain some weight for sure[/quote]

Tell Drew Brees to pump his 60 brakes. Heinicke is it. If they dont resign him, Im quitting the team.

rome108 01-10-2021 12:05 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1273363]I agree, D was contained and why did Turner hardly use McKissick? What the fuck was that?[/quote]

i wanted to see to tom on his back a few more times to rattle him, and yes, Gibson's toe was clearly bothering him, would have liked to seen the other backs bring it

SFREDSKIN 01-10-2021 12:05 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1273354]Heinicke isn't under contract. What type of contract would you sign him to?

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Lifetime of Heineckens!!

skinsfaninok 01-10-2021 12:05 AM

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Ron is the best coach this team has had since Gibbs 2.0. He gets his guys to play 100% every game. The culture has definitely been set and Im excited about this teams future.

Keep the name
Put the Logo on the helmet
Keep TH and let him compete with whoever.
Get another WR
Keep the RBs the same.
Upgrade OL if u can
Grab another CB in FA.

This team can win 10+ games next year if all that happens.

skinsfaninok 01-10-2021 12:06 AM

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[QUOTE=SkinzWin;1273376]Tell Drew Brees to pump his 60 brakes. Heinicke is it. If they dont resign him, Im quitting the team.[/QUOTE]


Im all for 6 foot QBs Im not knocking the guy at all but I wouldnt put everything on him just yet. In Ron I trust

sdskinsfan2001 01-10-2021 12:07 AM

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If Heinicke could magically grow to 6'1 and 200lbs I'd have zero problems going into next year with him as the starter. I just don't think he can hold up 16 games. Still need to draft a guy imo.

Warthog 01-10-2021 12:08 AM

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This was a very good game by the WFT. Taylor Heinicke looked very good for a guy with so little NFL game experience and time practicing with the first squad. Id like to see him have a OPPORTUNITY to be the QB next season.

I have one big hope for the off-season:

The other NFL owners cast Snyder out and force him to sell. It is impossible to know whether there is MORE dirt or not, besides what has already been found and published by the WP. I DONT think we will ever know!

If Snyder is allowed to stay, because there are not enough collaborated charges against him, I think the NFL will still make Snyder spend money to pay ALL the victims, get them to sign non-disclosure agreements to silence this scandal forever.

If Snyder is kicked out, I still think the victims will again be paid, and ask to sign non-disclosure agreements in exchange for the money. Either way, the NFL wants to keep this quiet.

I also hope Alex Smith will retire. He had a great story this year and went 5-1. He got them to the playoffs. But hes not the future. Hes super-expensive as a backup QB. Let Heinicke and Allen fight for the QB spot. If they can get STAFFORD, then hes the FA they need to go for.

If Heinicke wins the QB spot, this frees up the entire draft and FA to fill the other big holes on the team: WR, OL, CB, LB.


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SFREDSKIN 01-10-2021 12:09 AM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1273381]If Heinicki could magically grow to 6'1 and 200lbs I'd have zero problems going into next year with him as the starter. I just don't think he can hold up 16 games. Still need to draft a guy imo.[/quote]

Without a doubt, from what Ive seen Heinecken is better than Allen.

punch it in 01-10-2021 12:09 AM

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1273358]2 year at most, he had a great night but weve seen Cinderella stories before. Id pump the brakes on him being QB1. Hes like 6 foot 180 pounds. Will have to gain some weight for sure[/QUOTE]



He played great against Carolina too. And like I said previously he has a real impressive skill set. Things you cannot really coach or teach. He seems to have the tangibles and intangibles.

On every other nfl team he tried to crack he was derailed by an injury or concussion. Coming out of ODU as an undrafted fa it is extremely hard to hold a roster spot when you are injured before you ever have a chance to prove yourself. The one team he was signed on with when he wasnt injured was the Patriots in 2017 and they had a guy named Tom Brady. There is no doubt in my mind if Heineken went to a power 5 school he would have been on an NFL roster when this year began.
He is one of those guys that just never really got a chance to showcase his talents. He did for one quarter against Carolina and looked great. Got a chance to start tonight in a huge game and looked awesome. Im definitely on the Heineken train. This is not Colt Brennan. Lol. This guy is the real deal. You watch.

Chief X_Phackter 01-10-2021 12:11 AM

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Defense let them down tonight. Yeah it's TB, but top 10 defenses don't allow 30+ points in big games like this. Dudes running wide open too many times, and Brady was barely touched all night.

I didn't see the # 6 ranked O line people were talking about either - haven't seen it all year. That PFF ranking is straight BS.

Heinicke is a baller. I would definitely consider him for the backup role, or the "bridge" QB if they draft their future QB.

Great season. Wish it wasn't over, but this is the first time in a long time I feel good about the direction this team is headed as the offseason begins. Still a lot of holes to plug though - QB, Secondary, LB, WR, O-line, and looking like RB too.

Chief X_Phackter 01-10-2021 12:15 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1273384]He played great against Carolina too. And like I said previously he has a real impressive skill set. Things you cannot really coach or teach. He seems to have the tangibles and intangibles.

[B]On every other nfl team he tried to crack he was derailed by an injury or concussion. [/B]Coming out of ODU as an undrafted fa it is extremely hard to hold a roster spot when you are injured before you ever have a chance to prove yourself. The one team he was signed on with when he wasnt injured was the Patriots in 2017 and they had a guy named Tom Brady. There is no doubt in my mind if Heineken went to a power 5 school he would have been on an NFL roster when this year began.
He is one of those guys that just never really got a chance to showcase his talents. He did for one quarter against Carolina and looked great. Got a chance to start tonight in a huge game and looked awesome. Im definitely on the Heineken train. This is not Colt Brennan. Lol. This guy is the real deal. You watch.[/quote]

That's my biggest concern. He's definitely a baller, but he may be too fragile.

punch it in 01-10-2021 12:17 AM

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I just want to go on record as saying Taylor Heinicke will be a real good quarterback for us for the foreseeable future barring an injury. I know it is a real small sample size but he has it.

CRedskinsRule 01-10-2021 12:19 AM

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1273381]If Heinicke could magically grow to 6'1 and 200lbs I'd have zero problems going into next year with him as the starter. I just don't think he can hold up 16 games. Still need to draft a guy imo.[/QUOTE]Wikipedia has him listed at 6'1 210lbs

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CRedskinsRule 01-10-2021 12:19 AM

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1273389]I just want to go on record as saying Taylor Heinicke will be a real good quarterback for us for the foreseeable future barring an injury. I know it is a real small sample size but he has it.[/QUOTE]I think injury is his biggest issue.

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Meks 01-10-2021 12:22 AM

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I saw what I needed to see vs. Carolina, was beside myself when the kept.alex.in vs. Philly.... with #4 over #7 this year we.win at least 3 more games. Fucking build.around the kid for fuck sake.


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