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Chico23231 05-12-2021 01:19 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1283689]I believe the FO is taking advantage of the new cba which allows 46 active IF the extra players are OL, up to 8. Also with a 17 game season, and several OL guys "prone" to injury, Scherff - Moses are 2 notable ones, the extra bodies along the OL will prove to be one of the best moves of our off season.[/quote]

Interesting. Yeah offenses really folded last year in Dallas, Philly and end of season with KC when Oline problems emerged.

Man that Oline room is gonna be large with these guys competing.

MTK 05-12-2021 01:21 PM

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[quote=MissouriSkin;1283691]Too bad.[/quote]

It is funny and a little odd that a career journeyman would take such offense, but oh well. The coaches have spoken on it too. Wonder if his ass is chapped at them too.

Monkeydad 05-12-2021 01:51 PM

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Bargain!

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/edge/football/nfl/player/1328/charles-leno[/url]

[B]Washington signed LT Charles Leno, formerly of the Bears, to a one-year, $5 million contract. [/B]
Leno, shockingly cut by Chicago in April, could replace the role vacated by LT Trent Williams two years ago. The Football Team used its second round draft pick this year on T Sam Cosmi, who could compete with Leno for the Week 1 starting job protecting Ryan Fitzpatrick's blindside. Pro Football Focus rated Leno the league's 26th best tackle in 2020. Washington had the NFL's third best pass-blocking offensive line in 2020, according to PFF.




[QUOTE=MTK;1283676]Lucas probably not very happy.

[URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2021/5/11/22430211/washington-offensive-tackle-cornelius-lucas-is-furious-with-the-media"]Washington Offensive Tackle Cornelius Lucas is Furious With the Media[/URL][/QUOTE]



I don't blame him, we've been hearing parrot report after parrot report that he's mad we're bringing in competition and completely ignoring the fact that he played very well last year.

Yes, we've all wanted the "next Trent Williams" but our O-Line ranked very well last season, especially Lucas. They're the last posotion group to blame for offensive struggles last season.

Monkeydad 05-12-2021 01:58 PM

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Haha, Schefter getting mocked for plagiarism.


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vallin21 05-12-2021 02:22 PM

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Love the signing! Leno is an upgrade over Lucas.

Monkeydad 05-12-2021 02:39 PM

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Leno will likely win the LT job.

Where should we put Cosmi? Moses has RT locked down. Lucas will be the top backup unless he beats Leno out. Maybe start him at guard?

I suggest we include Scherff in a deal for Aaron Rodgers and move Cosmi to guard.

Chief X_Phackter 05-12-2021 06:08 PM

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The trenches are looking good.

Chief X_Phackter 05-12-2021 06:17 PM

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Scouring the planet:

The Washington Football Team is bringing in two Canadian players for workouts tomorrow, before the start of rookie minicamp: DB Nelson Lokombo, the No. 2 overall pick in the CFL draft last week, and OL Logan Bandy, drafted 38th overall, per source.

[url]https://www.tsn.ca/saskatchewan-roughriders-draft-pick-nelson-lokombo-to-work-out-for-washington-football-team-1.1638477[/url]

[url]https://www.tsn.ca/saskatchewan-roughriders-draft-pick-logan-bandy-to-work-out-for-washington-football-team-1.1638484[/url]

CRedskinsRule 05-12-2021 06:31 PM

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1283725]Scouring the planet:



The Washington Football Team is bringing in two Canadian players for workouts tomorrow, before the start of rookie minicamp: DB Nelson Lokombo, the No. 2 overall pick in the CFL draft last week, and OL Logan Bandy, drafted 38th overall, per source.



[url]https://www.tsn.ca/saskatchewan-roughriders-draft-pick-nelson-lokombo-to-work-out-for-washington-football-team-1.1638477[/url]



[url]https://www.tsn.ca/saskatchewan-roughriders-draft-pick-logan-bandy-to-work-out-for-washington-football-team-1.1638484[/url][/QUOTE]

The talking heads clip described Lokombo as playing the boundary halfback. Does that equate to what was mentioned earlier.
[quote]Call it what you want, we need someone who can play deep center or deep half in passing situations.[/quote]

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punch it in 05-12-2021 07:27 PM

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More depth on the o line. Gotta love that. Whether Leno starts or not - i think he will - it is boosting the trenches. When you have both trenches run deep you win games.

punch it in 05-12-2021 07:28 PM

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1283724]The trenches are looking good.[/QUOTE]



Hell yes they are. That is the way you build a team from its foundation. Otherwise it is just a house of cards. We have a pretty damn solid foundation.

GridIron26 05-12-2021 09:46 PM

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1283725]Scouring the planet:



The Washington Football Team is bringing in two Canadian players for workouts tomorrow, before the start of rookie minicamp: DB Nelson Lokombo, the No. 2 overall pick in the CFL draft last week, and OL Logan Bandy, drafted 38th overall, per source.



[url]https://www.tsn.ca/saskatchewan-roughriders-draft-pick-nelson-lokombo-to-work-out-for-washington-football-team-1.1638477[/url]



[url]https://www.tsn.ca/saskatchewan-roughriders-draft-pick-logan-bandy-to-work-out-for-washington-football-team-1.1638484[/url][/QUOTE]It would sucks for the Roughriders if Lokombo signs with us - a waste of 2nd round pick.

CRedskinsRule 05-12-2021 09:52 PM

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[QUOTE=GridIron26;1283732]It would sucks for the Roughriders if Lokombo signs with us - a waste of 2nd round pick.[/QUOTE]Actually 2nd overall pick. Definitely would suck for them.

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FrenchSkin 05-13-2021 05:00 AM

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I like Leno's signing. We Washington fans of all should know the importance of quality OL depth.
I don't care who wins the job, let 'em compete, start the best man, keep the best men, regardless of draft position.
Saadhiq Charles never seemed to have NFL hands technique to me, I won't sweat one bit if he ends up being cut. Won't sweat either if Christian gets cut.

KI Skins Fan 05-13-2021 07:06 AM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1283737]I like Leno's signing. We Washington fans of all should know the importance of quality OL depth.
I don't care who wins the job, let 'em compete, start the best man, keep the best men, regardless of draft position.
[B]Saadhiq Charles never seemed to have NFL hands technique to me, I won't sweat one bit if he ends up being cut.[/B] Won't sweat either if Christian gets cut.[/quote]

Dude, I like Charles a lot. His career has been derailed due to injury only. If he can stay healthy this season, don't be shocked if he is our starting LG.

BTW Y'all, who is our backup center? Is that one of Schweitzer's many talents?

If all goes well, we'll have a good, deep OL. Nice job by the FO!

FrenchSkin 05-13-2021 07:13 AM

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1283738]Dude, I like Charles a lot. His career has been derailed due to injury only. If he can stay healthy this season, don't be shocked if he is our starting LG.



BTW Y'all, who is our backup center? Is that one of Schweitzer's many talents?



If all goes well, we'll have a good, deep OL. Nice job by the FO![/QUOTE]I know a lot you guys liked Charles quite a lot when we drafted him, and I still hope you're right. Injuries sure are an issue, I just felt like the few we saw of him doesn't guarantee he's a starting NFL LT even without the injuries.

Let's hope every one is 100% come summer, and we can have a legit TC left tackle competition.

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EdmundDorf 05-13-2021 07:19 AM

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I think you need to ease up on the Saddiq Charles being no good, there were no off season activities last year, no preseason and he played about 2 snaps. The coaching staff loved him last year despite the injuries and had him as the starter at LG ahead of Schweitzer as a rookie.

KI Skins Fan 05-13-2021 07:20 AM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1283739]I know a lot you guys liked Charles quite a lot when we drafted him, and I still hope you're right. Injuries sure are an issue, I just felt like the few we saw of him doesn't guarantee he's a starting NFL LT even without the injuries.

Let's hope every one is 100% come summer, and we can have a legit TC left tackle competition.

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Not LT, LEFT GUARD! Charles will play LG.

FrenchSkin 05-13-2021 07:27 AM

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1283742]Not LT, LEFT GUARD! Charles will play LG.[/QUOTE]My bad, brain fart

Chief X_Phackter 05-13-2021 08:48 AM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1283738]Dude, I like Charles a lot. His career has been derailed due to injury only. If he can stay healthy this season, don't be shocked if he is our starting LG.

BTW Y'all, [B]who is our backup center?[/B] Is that one of Schweitzer's many talents?

If all goes well, we'll have a good, deep OL. Nice job by the FO![/quote]

Tyler Larsen

SCRedskinsFan 05-13-2021 08:50 AM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1283743]My bad, brain fart[/quote]

pet de cerveau?

FrenchSkin 05-13-2021 08:52 AM

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1283741]I think you need to ease up on the Saddiq Charles being no good, there were no off season activities last year, no preseason and he played about 2 snaps. The coaching staff loved him last year despite the injuries and had him as the starter at LG ahead of Schweitzer as a rookie.[/quote]

I'm not saying he is not good, I watched a couple of highlights and the 2 snaps he played for us, how could I know ?
I'm saying every one acting like it's [I]sure thing[/I] he's an NFL starter seems like a bit much to me. College highlights show athleticism but very stiff and suspect hand technique to me.
And here is the one snap he played for us before getting injured on a pull play. Doesn't look very confortable to me.
All I'm saying is I'm glad we got depth, and if this coaching staff think they got better options and make a roster decision I'll trust them.

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FrenchSkin 05-13-2021 08:54 AM

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1283750]pet de cerveau?[/quote]

Exactement ! Une couille dans le pâté quoi...

AnonEmouse 05-13-2021 10:20 AM

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1283751]I'm not saying he is not good, I watched a couple of highlights and the 2 snaps he played for us, how could I know ?
I'm saying every one acting like it's [I]sure thing[/I] he's an NFL starter seems like a bit much to me. College highlights show athleticism but very stiff and suspect hand technique to me.
And here is the one snap he played for us before getting injured on a pull play. Doesn't look very confortable to me.
All I'm saying is I'm glad we got depth, and if this coaching staff think they got better options and make a roster decision I'll trust them.
[/QUOTE]

I'm not going to critique a guy on his first NFL snap. He's going to be nervous as all hell unless he's got ice blood. The coaches will have seen him in x snaps in training and will know from that if he's got a hope. They won't keep a guy around if he hasn't got the tools they can use, whether he needs coaching up or not. If he didn't look like he had potential from training they'd have set him loose with an injury settlement. But this summer is when he needs to prove it. If he stays healthy but struggles or simply can't stay healthy he'll be gone.

Monkeydad 05-13-2021 10:33 AM

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We've been talking about the crazy depth we've added to WR, but our offensive line has more bodies than we know what to do with!

[B]LT[/B]
Charles Leno
Geron Christian
Cornelius Lucas
[B]LG[/B]
Wes Martin
Ereck Flowers
[B]C[/B]
Chase Roullier
Tyler Larsen
Tony Bergstrom
Wes Schweitzer
Keith Ismael
Beau Benzschawel
Camaron Cheeseman
[B]RG[/B]
Brandon Scherff
Josh Garnett
[B]RT[/B]
Morgan Moses
David Sharpe
Saahdiq Charles
Samuel Cosmi

davy 05-13-2021 11:12 AM

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[quote=Monkeydad;1283766]We've been talking about the crazy depth we've added to WR, but our offensive line has [B]more bodies than we know what to do with![/B]
[/quote]

We can start by discounting...

Christian
Martin
Larsen
Bergstrom
Benzschawel
Cheeseman
Garnett
Sharpe

None of whom will contribute to the OL unless we have a slew of injuries.

Monkeydad 05-13-2021 11:38 AM

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[quote=davy;1283768]We can start by discounting...

Christian
Martin
Larsen
Bergstrom
Benzschawel
Cheeseman
Garnett
Sharpe

None of whom will contribute to the OL unless we have a slew of injuries.[/quote]

Shut yo mouth. Cheeseman is a critical piece to this team.

He won't play offense, but he will be a difference-maker on many scoring plays.

AnonEmouse 05-13-2021 11:56 AM

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LS like K and P are designated positions. I don't believe Sundberg ever lines up on the OL in a game?

SCRedskinsFan 05-13-2021 12:21 PM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1283752]Exactement ! Une couille dans le pâté quoi...[/quote]

Couille? C’est drôle!

GridIron26 05-13-2021 12:59 PM

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1283777]LS like K and P are designated positions. I don't believe Sundberg ever lines up on the OL in a game?[/quote]

Correct

FrenchSkin 05-13-2021 06:54 PM

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1283763]I'm not going to critique a guy on his first NFL snap. He's going to be nervous as all hell unless he's got ice blood. The coaches will have seen him in x snaps in training and will know from that if he's got a hope. They won't keep a guy around if he hasn't got the tools they can use, whether he needs coaching up or not. If he didn't look like he had potential from training they'd have set him loose with an injury settlement. But this summer is when he needs to prove it. If he stays healthy but struggles or simply can't stay healthy he'll be gone.[/QUOTE]Again, I have absolutely not enough football knowledge nor watched enough of him to know nor say that he has no potential. I actually know for a fact he has some.
All I'm saying is acting like he's a lock to become an NFL starter is a bit of a stretch, he has to be behind a lot of people on the depth chart right now.

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SkinzWin 05-13-2021 07:35 PM

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I don’t understand how a free agent LT signed for 1 year and $5 mil this late in free agency is grounds to automatically crown him our week 1 starter? Look at their stats the last two years. Lucas has been better in false starts, holds and sacks allowed. I just don’t get it.

AnonEmouse 05-13-2021 07:48 PM

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Who's anointed him wk 1 starter? Coaching staff certainly haven't.

sdskinsfan2001 05-13-2021 09:19 PM

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You gotta feel real good about our tackle depth.

Lucas, Leno, Moses, Cosmi, gives us a lot of protection. 3 guys that have proven they can start in the NFL and 1 of the most athletic tackle prospects ever to groom for 2022 and beyond.

SkinzWin 05-13-2021 11:17 PM

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1283803]Who's anointed him wk 1 starter? Coaching staff certainly haven't.[/quote]

I’ve seen more fans and media talking heads say that Leno will be the starter than I’ve seen say Lucas will be after this signing.

sdskinsfan2001 05-13-2021 11:28 PM

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[quote=SkinzWin;1283811]I’ve seen more fans and media talking heads say that Leno will be the starter than I’ve seen say Lucas will be after this signing.[/quote]

5 million for a legit starting LT in the league, even as a backup is still worth it.

Lucas already played for us, and played pretty well. So I hope he gets a fair chance to win the job. And I hope that he does win it.

I like the Leno signing whether he starts or not.


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