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sdskinsfan2001 05-14-2021 12:27 AM

Re: Post Draft Free agency targets
 
[quote=Scalper;1283815]Or Ismael.[/quote]

Go Aztecs!

AnonEmouse 05-14-2021 07:11 AM

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Scalper makes a good point about next year. Had we gone into this season with only Moses, Lucas, Charles and Sharpe as our top 3 T's, next year we'd have 2 serviceable guys at 30+, a seemingly injury prone prospect and a 25 yo average at best backup. And 2 of those guys would have to be resigned or allowed to walk. So of course we strengthen T this year.

But it seems to have been done with a view to next year too. Lucas could be gone assuming he makes the roster this year. Leno is on a 1yr deal. Moses could easily be gone next year. If Leno re-captures his pro bowl form he likely gets re-signed. That could well put Cosmi at RT next year. So subject to drafting a starting T next year, we have 2 starting T's on good deals, Charles hopefully able to back them up or even start on a good deal. If it all plays out it gives the FO the freedom to draft a T as BPA not as a need (I'd argue Cosmi borders on BPA but definitely was a need). That's potentially 4 T's with starting quality on team friendly deals.

And I agree, this signing right now could easily double as injury insurance for Charles or Moses.

MTK 05-14-2021 09:10 AM

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Yeah the deck along the OL seems pretty stacked right now, seems like a little overkill but let's see how it goes. Ron must have a plan.

AnonEmouse 05-14-2021 11:08 AM

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Anyone actually able to work out our cap hit next year if we let every OL FA walk in March 2022? Got to be pretty low per head I would think, as it stands. No Moses, No Scherff...

CRedskinsRule 05-14-2021 04:57 PM

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Apparantly we signed McCain to a 1 year deal. No link.

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vallin21 05-14-2021 05:05 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1283850]Apparantly we signed McCain to a 1 year deal. No link.

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McCain could start at FS, or play in the slot. Versatile. Apke is gone. Our DB group seems to have improved.

CRedskinsRule 05-14-2021 05:13 PM

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[QUOTE=vallin21;1283851]McCain could start at FS, or play in the slot. Versatile. Apke is gone. Our DB group seems to have improved.[/QUOTE]Without gushing joy and happiness, how refreshing that we have a FO that:

-self identifies weaknesses.
-uses all available avenues to find solutions
-doesn't blatantly overpay
-focuses on character AND skill level

Was this a perfect off season, maybe not, but it was by far the most professional offseason since Gibbs, and likely even before then.

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FrenchSkin 05-14-2021 05:17 PM

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Good, like the fact that this coaching staff if valuing quality characters/hard working guys but not getting 1 sec with fake sense of owing guys playing time because they worked hard. They're here to build a roster and win games.
We all loved Reaves' attitude/story, but if we got better options, I'm all for it.

vallin21 05-14-2021 05:18 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1283852]Without gushing joy and happiness, how refreshing that we have a FO that:

-self identifies weaknesses.
-uses all available avenues to find solutions
-doesn't blatantly overpay
-focuses on character AND skill level

Was this a perfect off season, maybe not, but it was by far the most professional offseason since Gibbs, and likely even before then.

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Agreed; and to get two potential starters after the draft, and as you mentioned not overpaying for them. VERY refreshing to have a competent FO. Kudos to Rivera and company.

Defensewins 05-14-2021 06:58 PM

Re: Post Draft Free agency targets
 
I think something is happening that hasnít happened here in a long time.......other teams players and FAís want to play for us.
I think the combination of having a strong, young, talented defense and a great coaching staff is making Washington an attractive place where FAís now want to play here. Our roster is filing out...our FO is making smart moves. We have depth.
Cats and dogs are getting along.
Whatís next?

AnonEmouse 05-14-2021 07:22 PM

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Key thing I note is the right kind of FA's.

The Skinsinator 05-14-2021 10:10 PM

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We had a great draft. After the draft, getting Patterson, Leno, and now McCain is bigtime. Absolutely love this offseason.

If Fitz works out and is consistent, we're going to be tough to beat this season. Defense should be awesome.

Hail WFT!

CRedskinsRule 05-14-2021 11:09 PM

Re: Post Draft Free agency targets
 
McCain highlights:

[url]https://youtu.be/UxuMTARj4To[/url]


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calia 05-14-2021 11:47 PM

Post Draft Free agency targets
 
Those highlights are great. 1st one is an INT of Dak. He lays the wood in Metcalf too - that isnít easy. Love the attitude and swagger.

Our D is going to maul people. We need to elect to kick with every coin toss. We will give Fitzmagic a short field to start every game.

Honestly, there is NOTHING better than a D that destroys your opponent. Iíd rather watch a shutout 17-0 than see a 42-35 win any day.


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FrenchSkin 05-15-2021 01:33 AM

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[QUOTE=calia;1283865]Those highlights are great. 1st one is an INT of Dak. He lays the wood in Metcalf too - that isnít easy. Love the attitude and swagger.

Our D is going to maul people. We need to elect to kick with every coin toss. We will give Fitzmagic a short field to start every game.

Honestly, there is NOTHING better than a D that destroys your opponent. Iíd rather watch a shutout 17-0 than see a 42-35 win any day.


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Sign me up to the shutout over shoot out bandwagon !

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calia 05-15-2021 10:05 AM

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1283867]Sign me up to the shutout over shoot out bandwagon !

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Perfectly said!


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simbosargos75 05-15-2021 11:18 AM

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nmx

FrenchSkin 05-16-2021 06:08 AM

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Watched offensive snaps of WC Bears @ Saints 2020 game.
Charles Leno seems like a nice addition to me. Long arms and very consistent pass pro.
Run blocking is meh. Does the job, but never gets any real push, and sometimes doesn't sustain.
No flashy play to show you either way.

FrenchSkin 05-16-2021 09:30 PM

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Ok... I have NO idea why the Miami basically gave us Ereck Flowers...
Granted it's one game, but I watched offensive snaps of last year's Rams @ Dolphins...
Flowers played really REALLY well against a very good DL.
He held his own 1 on 1 against Aaron freakin Donald. He got driven back and beaten a couple of times... but it's Donald... and he never got humiliated, not one "oh my gosh Donald is a monster, nothing you can do against him" play.

We got great value in this trade.

Some worth seeing plays:

He had a lot of these in the game in the run game, giving help to either the C or T and then looking for a second guy to block, very pro active:

[IMG]https://media1.giphy.com/media/0LJuF2d41k9gQMHow4/giphy.gif[/IMG]

Look at him maintain his block and then perfectly pick up the stunt:

[IMG]https://media1.giphy.com/media/JG6BKwuEWhGylDUSvq/giphy.gif[/IMG]

Another nice job against a stunt:

[IMG]https://i.giphy.com/media/QI7Wgf0yzEx4hLayPw/giphy.webp[/IMG]

1 on 1 in pass pro vs Donald, Tua doesn't step up in the pocket but Flowers did his job there, didn't he ?

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Gets tackle help at the end but nice play against Donald:

[IMG]https://media4.giphy.com/media/qe0svqvejGiVdsJ0O6/giphy.gif?cid=790b761197d6e41d80ae1987a72f948c29ed5fe7d10fd43e&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g[/IMG]

MissouriSkin 05-16-2021 09:48 PM

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Much better than watching Darnold throw Martin around like a blocking sled....

FrenchSkin 05-16-2021 11:19 PM

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[quote=MissouriSkin;1283912]Much better than watching Darnold throw Martin around like a blocking sled....[/quote]

Not sure what you mean by that...

[IMG]https://media0.giphy.com/media/nLtx4MJ1Cp4KXPX8LN/giphy.gif[/IMG][IMG]https://media2.giphy.com/media/lLNiU8eTWHNxjoT6ND/giphy.gif[/IMG]

AnonEmouse 05-17-2021 09:08 AM

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[QUOTE=MissouriSkin;1283912]Much better than watching Darnold throw Martin around like a blocking sled....[/QUOTE]

I'm just curious about Sam Darnold playing DL ;)

MissouriSkin 05-17-2021 09:13 AM

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Oh. I meant Aaron Donald. Damn fat fingers. 🤦*♂️

Ohioskins 05-19-2021 06:18 PM

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That is kind of a significant error.

MissouriSkin 05-19-2021 06:44 PM

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[quote=Ohioskins;1284067]That is kind of a significant error.[/quote]

Little bit. 😂

FrenchSkin 05-19-2021 09:23 PM

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Charles Leno wanted to be in Washington partly because of how competitive we were last year. I think the perception of this team amongst players around the league is changing, and it'll start to benefit us:

[url]https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/1395071617701711879[/url]

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1xKLHzX0AYIBfh?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG]

Chico23231 05-20-2021 08:15 AM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1284073]Charles Leno wanted to be in Washington partly because of how competitive we were last year. I think the perception of this team amongst players around the league is changing, and it'll start to benefit us:

[url]https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/1395071617701711879[/url]

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1xKLHzX0AYIBfh?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG][/quote]

This is a big statement and evidence of the culture changing. Great to see

punch it in 05-20-2021 08:57 AM

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Yeah it is nice, but the team was still 7-9. We were obviously extremely fortunate to play in the NFC least, and for Dak to get hurt.
Culture is great, wins are better. To have both would be awesome. We will see.

MissouriSkin 05-20-2021 10:04 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1284082]Yeah it is nice, but the team was still 7-9. We were obviously extremely fortunate to play in the NFC least, and for Dak to get hurt.
Culture is great, wins are better. To have both would be awesome. We will see.[/quote]

Well the difference in the team between 2019 and 2020 couldnít be more obvious. The wins will come as we add talent.

MTK 05-20-2021 10:08 AM

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The team is trending in the right direction. That's all we can ask for and for it to be happening so quickly is a pretty impressive job by Ron and company.

EARTHQUAKE2689 05-20-2021 03:59 PM

Re: Post Draft Free agency targets
 
[quote=punch it in;1284082]Yeah it is nice, but the team was still 7-9. We were obviously extremely fortunate to play in the NFC least, and for Dak to get hurt.
Culture is great, wins are better. To have both would be awesome. We will see.[/quote]

The Cowboys were literally one onside kick from being 0-4 with Dak, so this notion that Dak is gonna come back and they immediately because a top 3 team in the conference is nonsense to me

CRedskinsRule 05-20-2021 04:39 PM

Re: Post Draft Free agency targets
 
[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1284102]The Cowboys were literally one onside kick from being 0-4 with Dak, so this notion that Dak is gonna come back and they immediately because a top 3 team in the conference is nonsense to me[/QUOTE]Just to follow up, the head coach of Atlanta, whose team flubbed that onside kick recovery, was Dan Quinn.
The new defensive coordinator of the cowboys, that same Dan Quinn.
The head coach whose defense gave up 31 points and lost Superbowl 51 after leading 28-3, Dan Quinn.


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Chief X_Phackter 05-20-2021 06:12 PM

Re: Post Draft Free agency targets
 
[quote=earthquake2689;1284102]the cowboys were literally one onside kick from being 0-4 with dak, so this notion that dak is gonna come back and they immediately because a top 3 team in the conference is nonsense to me[/quote]

facts!

skinsnut 05-20-2021 08:17 PM

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Cutting Moses Morgan is interesting. Yes, they can use the savings on extensions. But to me, it is far to sudden to be explained that way. Is it possible the needed big cap for some sort of heavy need acquisition within days?

punch it in 05-20-2021 10:48 PM

Post Draft Free agency targets
 
[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1284102]The Cowboys were literally one onside kick from being 0-4 with Dak, so this notion that Dak is gonna come back and they immediately because a top 3 team in the conference is nonsense to me[/QUOTE]



I never said they were a top three team in the conference. I said they might have won our division. Those are two completely different things. Lol
I know people are saying that and think it is equally ridiculous btw.

Pervis_Griffith 05-20-2021 11:02 PM

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[quote=skinsnut;1284115]Cutting Moses Morgan is interesting. Yes, they can use the savings on extensions. But to me, it is far to sudden to be explained that way. Is it possible the needed big cap for some sort of heavy need acquisition within days?[/quote]


Could be.

Could be other things too.

Maybe MM was becoming less a leader on the O-Line, and more a locker room distraction with all the OT's the team has brought on board recently.

Maybe MM really wanted to test the market for his services, saw Charles and Cosmi and saw the writing on the wall.

Who knows.

This message board was all over MM's poor play two years ago. I'm not crying over this. Wish MM the best, and let's see who of Lucas - Cosmi - Charles winds up winning that staarting spot.


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