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MTK 04-03-2009 06:02 PM

Campbell: Meeting "Very Successful"
 
Jason Reid just got off the phone with Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell, who said he met with owner Daniel M. Snyder, executive vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato and Coach Jim Zorn for two hours today at Redskins Park.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/campbell-meeting-very-successf.html]Redskins Insider - Campbell: Meeting "Very Successful"[/url]

Ijaeger 04-03-2009 06:14 PM

Re: Campbell: Meeting "Very Successful"
 
Well I guess everything's been laid out on the table. Boy, if walls could talk. I'd like to know exactly what was said. Hope it all pans out-all in all I suppose it sounds ok...but I won't hold my breath

SFREDSKIN 04-03-2009 06:22 PM

Re: Campbell: Meeting "Very Successful"
 
Basically Campbell probably said, "if I have a great year get ready to pay me through the teeth" or I might just become a FA. **** YOU very much!!

Dirtbag59 04-03-2009 06:27 PM

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Ironically the Redskins are now showing the Broncos how you're suppose to handle this type of situation.

[quote=SFREDSKIN;543008]Basically Campbell probably said, "if I have a great year get ready to pay me through the teeth" or I might just become a FA. **** YOU very much!![/quote]

Restricted Free Agent.

Daseal 04-03-2009 06:30 PM

Re: Campbell: Meeting "Very Successful"
 
Actually, SFREDSKIN. We have a lot of tools to keep him from becoming an FA. Especially if the CBA ends up not getting renewed. In fact, if the CBA falls through teams get an extra transition tag and it makes it very difficult for players to even become FAs. The clubs will gain a ton of power by the CBA getting abolished.

I really don't see Campbell deserving of the upper level QB money unless he really shows a ton this year.

Ijaeger 04-03-2009 06:38 PM

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I'm basically wondering if Snyderrato told Campbell and Zorn that if they are in it together then they'll be out of it together if we don't at least make the playoffs this year. And also if they told Campbell anything like "if you make it to the NFC championship or SB, THEN we'll pay you a hefty contract, otherwise you will have to settle for something in between until we find our guy...IF you want to remain a Redskin."

vallin21 04-03-2009 06:41 PM

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[quote=Ijaeger;543013]I'm basically wondering if Snyderrato told Campbell and Zorn that if they are in it together then they'll be out of it together if we don't at least make the playoffs this year. And also if they told Campbell anything like "[B]if you make it to the NFC championship or SB, THEN we'll pay you a hefty contract, otherwise you will have to settle for something in between until we find our guy...IF you want to remain a Redskin[/B]."[/quote]

It probably went something like that .:)

KI Skins Fan 04-03-2009 06:46 PM

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What a crock this whole thing turned out to be!

Jason Campbell should either be appointed Ambassador to North Korea because he is the greatest diplomat in America or he has to be the most naive football player in the NFL.

I cannot believe that Campbell didn't have his agent in that meeting! He must be out of his mind to go into that ridiculous meeting unrepresented. They tried to dump him, didn't they? They dropped the gauntlet. Campbell and his agent should have told management that it's on now.

As far as his agent is concerned, not being there borders on malpractice. Management could have promised Campbell any damn thing in that meeting and it means nothing! Campbell's agent should have gone into that meeting with a list of demands and any promises made by management should have been put on paper in the form of a legal agreement.

JC has them over a barrel, for goodness sake! Can't his stupid agent see that? Stupid, stupid, stupid!

Ijaeger 04-03-2009 06:52 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;543018]What a crock this whole thing turned out to be!

I cannot believe that Campbell didn't have his agent in that meeting! He must be out of his mind to go into that ridiculous meeting unrepresented. They tried to dump him, didn't they? They dropped the gauntlet. Campbell and his agent should have told management that it's on now.

As far as his agent is concerned, not being there borders on malpractice. Management could have promised Campbell any damn thing in that meeting and it means nothing! Campbell's agent should have gone into that meeting with a list of demands and any promises made by management should have been put on paper in the form of a legal agreement.

JC has them over a barrel, for goodness sake! Can't his stupid agent see that? Stupid, stupid, stupid![/quote]

I'm sure there will be talks prior to and during the season.

The Goat 04-03-2009 06:56 PM

Re: Campbell: Meeting "Very Successful"
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;543018]What a crock this whole thing turned out to be!

Jason Campbell should either be appointed Ambassador to North Korea because he is the greatest diplomat in America or he has to be the most naive football player in the NFL.

I cannot believe that Campbell didn't have his agent in that meeting! He must be out of his mind to go into that ridiculous meeting unrepresented. They tried to dump him, didn't they? They dropped the gauntlet. Campbell and his agent should have told management that it's on now.

As far as his agent is concerned, not being there borders on malpractice. Management could have promised Campbell any damn thing in that meeting and it means nothing! Campbell's agent should have gone into that meeting with a list of demands and any promises made by management should have been put on paper in the form of a legal agreement.

JC has them over a barrel, for goodness sake! Can't his stupid agent see that? Stupid, stupid, stupid![/quote]

Well, it could be sort naivete or just faith/confidence on JC17's part that his talent will shine in the 2nd year of Zorn's offense and everything will take care of itself...which really is the bottom line wouldn't u say bro? If the kid has the kind of year some of us genuinely expect him to have Jason knows all this muck is irrelevant.

KLHJ2 04-03-2009 07:06 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;543018]What a crock this whole thing turned out to be!

Jason Campbell should either be appointed Ambassador to North Korea because he is the greatest diplomat in America or he has to be the most naive football player in the NFL.

I cannot believe that Campbell didn't have his agent in that meeting! He must be out of his mind to go into that ridiculous meeting unrepresented. They tried to dump him, didn't they? They dropped the gauntlet. Campbell and his agent should have told management that it's on now.

As far as his agent is concerned, not being there borders on malpractice. Management could have promised Campbell any damn thing in that meeting and it means nothing! Campbell's agent should have gone into that meeting with a list of demands and any promises made by management should have been put on paper in the form of a legal agreement.

JC has them over a barrel, for goodness sake! Can't his stupid agent see that? Stupid, stupid, stupid![/quote]

Campbell's agent is Joel Segal who also represents Laron Landry and Deangelo Hall. After he raped us during the Hall resigning I doubt that he would have had any leverage in the meeting if he had he attended.

KI Skins Fan 04-03-2009 07:08 PM

Re: Campbell: Meeting "Very Successful"
 
[quote=The Goat;543020]Well, it could be sort naivete or just faith/confidence on JC17's part that his talent will shine in the 2nd year of Zorn's offense and [B]everything will take care of itself...which really is the bottom line wouldn't u say bro?[/B] If the kid has the kind of year some of us genuinely expect him to have Jason knows all this muck is irrelevant.[/quote]

No, I would [B]not [/B]say that at all! What if Jason gets hurt? Then he's screwed.

Look, this is the NFL, not Pop Warner football. Players need to make sure they achieve financial security through football, if they can. His agent needs to look out for him now. If need be, his agent needs to protect him from himself.

At this point JC should know that he can't trust Snyder at all. If I were his agent, he would not be engaged in [B]any [/B]football activity where he could be injured until I negotiated a new contract with a whole lot of guaranteed money for him. Snyder could then choose to either pay JC or to go into the season with Todd Collins as his starter. And you'd better believe that there would be a nasty media campaign waged by my side, if necessary.

KI Skins Fan 04-03-2009 07:14 PM

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[quote=Angry;543022]Campbell's agent is Joel Segal who also represents Laron Landry and Deangelo Hall. After he raped us during the Hall resigning I doubt that he would have had any leverage in the meeting if he had he attended.[/quote]

If were true, then JC would need a new agent. But I don't see how Hall's contract is relevant to JC's. They are entirely separate.

MTK 04-03-2009 07:22 PM

Re: Campbell: Meeting "Very Successful"
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;543018]What a crock this whole thing turned out to be!

Jason Campbell should either be appointed Ambassador to North Korea because he is the greatest diplomat in America or he has to be the most naive football player in the NFL.

I cannot believe that Campbell didn't have his agent in that meeting! He must be out of his mind to go into that ridiculous meeting unrepresented. They tried to dump him, didn't they? They dropped the gauntlet. Campbell and his agent should have told management that it's on now.

As far as his agent is concerned, not being there borders on malpractice. Management could have promised Campbell any damn thing in that meeting and it means nothing! Campbell's agent should have gone into that meeting with a list of demands and any promises made by management should have been put on paper in the form of a legal agreement.

JC has them over a barrel, for goodness sake! Can't his stupid agent see that? Stupid, stupid, stupid![/quote]

Yeah just what we need is our own Cutler situation.

Thankfully JC is more mature than that. He realizes it's business.

KLHJ2 04-03-2009 07:27 PM

Re: Campbell: Meeting "Very Successful"
 
I understand that it shouldn't matter, but that does not mean that it doesn't. If somebody had just gotten the best of you a month or 2 ago do you think that you would let him do it again anytime soon? I agree to disagree with you there so no need to continue with that argument.

On the flip side, lets say that the agent was there. Exactly what would he have leveraged for? Campbell is still under contract. I believe that someone said that he is only going to be a RFA next year. That means that no matter what somebody else wants to offer him the Skins can match if they desire to. Lets take it a season beyond next. There is always the Franchise tag. The bottom line is that even if the agent (Seagal) had been in the meeting, he has absolutely zero leverage to make demands.


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