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Dirtbag59 11-28-2010 06:33 PM

Clutch and Execution Problems
 
This has probably been the thing that has bothered me the most over the past year. So many times the Redskins have had a chance to gain an advantage during games and so many times they've come up short. Today's examples were as follows.

Brandon Banks Punt Return: A block in the back against a player that had no chance of stopping Banks

Brandon Banks Kick Return: Getting the Skins to the Vikings 30 yard line and coming away with only a field goal

James Davis: Tripping on a play where he had what might have been the most wide opening running lane the Line has provided throughout the course of 2010.

And it's not just today. The countless dropped Int's, the wide open deep passes that are either underthrown, overthrown, or flat out dropped, bobbled holds on kicks, the holding calls on pivotal plays. And of course the one that bothers me more then the rest combined, getting turnovers that lead to red zone chances and then being lucky to come away with 3 points.

Maybe Zorn was right, this group of guys simply can't execute.

Chico23231 11-28-2010 06:42 PM

Re: Clutch and Execution Problems
 
- Back to back drops by Cooley and Moss in one drive which both would have resulted in 1st downs in the 1st half

- Underthrown ball to Armstrong on the 45-yard pass play. Armstrong had beaten his guy by 10 yards, that should have been a score.

- Several penalties on the Oline

We make alot of stupid mistakes which we cant afford to especially when we lack this much talent and depth at multiple positions.

Hopefully we continue to turn over the roster and bring in some youngs guys in the draft.

skinsguy 11-28-2010 06:51 PM

Re: Clutch and Execution Problems
 
[quote=Chico23231;763422]- Back to back drops by Cooley and Moss in one drive which both would have resulted in 1st downs in the 1st half

- [B]Underthrown ball to Armstrong on the 45-yard pass play.[/B] Armstrong had beaten his guy by 10 yards, that should have been a score.

- Several penalties on the Oline

We make alot of stupid mistakes which we cant afford to especially when we lack this much talent and depth at multiple positions.

Hopefully we continue to turn over the roster and bring in some youngs guys in the draft.[/quote]


There was no way McNabb could have stepped into that pass. You really think he can throw a 60 yard pass off of his back foot?

Dirtbag59 11-28-2010 07:15 PM

Re: Clutch and Execution Problems
 
[quote=skinsguy;763427]There was no way McNabb could have stepped into that pass. You really think he can throw a 60 yard pass off of his back foot?[/quote]

It all goes back to Rabach. Why they would let him play injured against the Williams wall is beyond me.

Stacks42 11-28-2010 07:36 PM

Re: Clutch and Execution Problems
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;763433]It all goes back to Rabach. Why they would let him play injured against the Williams wall is beyond me.[/quote]


I've said it all along, the only constant over the past 5 years of bad offensive lines is Rabach. He needs to go, he has never been the player he was with Baltimore.

Chico23231 11-28-2010 08:04 PM

Re: Clutch and Execution Problems
 
[quote=skinsguy;763427]There was no way McNabb could have stepped into that pass. You really think he can throw a 60 yard pass off of his back foot?[/quote]

Then it was thrown late...Armstrong had beaten him pretty early in the route

Brody81 11-28-2010 08:19 PM

Re: Clutch and Execution Problems
 
The problem is the same old BS we have dealt with for the last 10 years, No clutch players... Clinton Portis, Chris Cooley, Santa Moss, etc, they never step up in big games. It's always the same shit>> Dropped passes, fumbles, penalties... The loser mentality has been instilled in these guys.. MS needs to clean house, and get rid of the losers.. Please!!!! Lets start over....

SFREDSKIN 11-28-2010 08:26 PM

Re: Clutch and Execution Problems
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;763433]It all goes back to Rabach. Why they would let him play injured against the Williams wall is beyond me.[/quote]

They should have started last weeks OL with Montgomery at C and Heyer at RG, if that lineup did not work then go back to your original starters who were hurt to begin with. That just made to much sense, so they did the conservative thing.

steveo395 11-28-2010 08:42 PM

Re: Clutch and Execution Problems
 
[quote=Stacks42;763439]I've said it all along, the only constant over the past 5 years of bad offensive lines is Rabach. He needs to go, he has never been the player he was with Baltimore.[/quote]
I know that Rabach sucks not but the o-line was good in '05 and '06 so its more like.... well I guess its 4 years of shit o-line play so yea your pretty much right.

Defensewins 11-28-2010 08:42 PM

Re: Clutch and Execution Problems
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;763457]They should have started last weeks OL with Montgomery at C and Heyer at RG, if that lineup did not work then go back to your original starters who were hurt to begin with. That just made to much sense, so they did the conservative thing.[/quote]

I completely agree with this.
They should have stuck wtih what worked. Why go back to something that was not working? I still do not understand and find fault with the way Shanahan and Haslett are using some the players they have on the roster.

firstdown 11-28-2010 09:22 PM

Re: Clutch and Execution Problems
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;763416]This has probably been the thing that has bothered me the most over the past year. So many times the Redskins have had a chance to gain an advantage during games and so many times they've come up short. Today's examples were as follows.

Brandon Banks Punt Return: A block in the back against a player that had no chance of stopping Banks

Brandon Banks Kick Return: Getting the Skins to the Vikings 30 yard line and coming away with only a field goal

[B]James Davis: Tripping on a play[/B] where he had what might have been the most wide opening running lane the Line has provided throughout the course of 2010.

And it's not just today. The countless dropped Int's, the wide open deep passes that are either underthrown, overthrown, or flat out dropped, bobbled holds on kicks, the holding calls on pivotal plays. And of course the one that bothers me more then the rest combined, getting turnovers that lead to red zone chances and then being lucky to come away with 3 points.

Maybe Zorn was right, this group of guys simply can't execute.[/quote]


Davis did not trip he was tripped. You make it sound like he fell over himself but a player got a hand on his foot making a play.

Dirtbag59 11-28-2010 10:05 PM

Re: Clutch and Execution Problems
 
[quote=firstdown;763482]Davis did not trip he was tripped. You make it sound like he fell over himself but a player got a hand on his foot making a play.[/quote]
Well maybe it's just me but I expect a power back to be able to power through a shoe string tackle that early in the run. If that was the Redskins in that same situation on defense we would probably be looking at a long run.

Bushead 11-28-2010 11:24 PM

Re: Clutch and Execution Problems
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;763521]Well maybe it's just me but I expect a power back to be able to power through a shoe string tackle that early in the run. If that was the Redskins in that same situation on defense we would probably be looking at a long run.[/quote]

You expect a lot out of 5th string players.

SmootSmack 11-28-2010 11:38 PM

Re: Clutch and Execution Problems
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;763521]Well maybe it's just me but I expect a power back to be able to power through a shoe string tackle that early in the run. If that was the Redskins in that same situation on defense we would probably be looking at a long run.[/quote]

Just because he was Thunder to Spiller's Lightning, I wouldn't really call him a power back. KW, ATV, and Sellers are all bigger and CP is the same size

EARTHQUAKE2689 11-29-2010 12:58 AM

Re: Clutch and Execution Problems
 
[quote=Brody81;763454]The problem is the same old BS we have dealt with for the last 10 years, No clutch players... Clinton Portis, Chris Cooley, Santa Moss, etc, they never step up in big games. It's always the same shit>> Dropped passes, fumbles, penalties... The loser mentality has been instilled in these guys.. MS needs to clean house, and get rid of the losers.. Please!!!! Lets start over....[/quote]

Santa plays for us and we still can't win? I give up.


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