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Originally Posted by 5RINGS
If Dr Z thinks Ellard ahead of Monk okay, but then that begs the question - who the hell are the other guys voting for!?!?!
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I agree he can prefer anyone he wants, and yes he does give reasons - but the bottom line (which he will never admit) is that it comes down to players he likes. Once he likes you, you get his vote and he then justifies it either through stats or "un"-stats (Ellard's long years of service). But his justifications are simply not consistent. He doesn't like Monk - and no stats or arguments that Monk sacrificed for the team, made clutch catches, wasn't showy but quietly proficient, or had long years of service etc. will change his mind - Even though all of those are reasons he gives for voting others in who don't have Monk's stats. I would like to see him admit his f***ing hypocrisy, but he will never do it.
More Z quotes:
From a 1999 Article (
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/you...treel_hof_drz/)
"If you want the '80s there's Art Monk, but I wouldn't vote for him because he made a living on eight-yard hooks."
"I've always been very much in Lynn Swann's corner. At the selection committee meetings the argument against him was that he didn't have the numbers. My argument is that I'll take quality over quantity. He saved his best for the biggest moments."
"Why isn't Bullet Bob Hayes a Hall of Famer?
Dr. Z: Not enough catches, too many other great athletes on that team, the drug stuff puts off some people."
From 2005 (
http://redskins.scout.com/2/350044.html):
"SI.COM: How about Art Monk?
Dr. Z: Monk was hurt by Michael Irvin being eligible this year. It's done alphabetically, and Irvin was presented before Monk. I think that really hurt him."
Also from 2005 (
http://www.basketballdraft.com/2004/...7/21/05.hof/):
"Art Monk is another four-timer. A great possession receiver. Caught a lot of balls in Joe Gibbs' system. Every time I mention that I didn't vote for him because I simply felt that other people were more deserving than a guy who caught 900 eight-yard hooks[.]"