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Originally Posted by punch it in
I am certainly one of those posters. Rhule has done more with less up until this point. RR isn’t running us into the ground. We were in the ground.
Also as far as the jury still being out well certainly on Rhule as he is in his second year of being a HC. RR on the other hand has had plenty of time to be successful. Is he the worst? Nope. Is he the best? Nope. If you look at it season to season he is closer to a failure than a success. Not sure where exactly on the spectrum but certainly closer to the wrong end of it.
Chief if you were the GM of the WFT and Carolina called and said hey Chief we want Ron back and you can have Rhule would you do it? I would. We know what Ron is. A good guy. A seemingly decent coach but with a propensity for losing seasons.
Could Carolina go in the shitter still? Yes. I can only base my opinion on an admittedly small window. He walked into a disaster in Carolina and took a year to see what he had. Now in year two they “appear” to be a much improved team. In year two of Rons time here we “appear” to have taken a step back. At least on the defensive side of the ball. Hard to judge the offense because they had two bad quarterbacks and one wr. Gibson was hurt. So to say the offense has improved in year two under Ron and Co. seems to me to be based on personnel not coaching.
Again they offer up a coach swap im all in. But you never know what the future holds I guess.
Also in regards to ur post about us having more success in 2020 we played them Dec 27. They were 5-10. We were 6-9. Most of our wins against the nfc least. They won. Chances are Carolina would have won the East last year if they were in it.
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I guess RR didn't walk into a disaster here. A 3-13 team with scandals on top of scandals with regard to the owner, the cheerleader debacle, sexual harassment claims, their best player (TW) wanting out, a newly drafted QB that no one besides the owner wanted, and Alex Smith (no elaboration needed), the pandemic (which all teams dealt with - but not with a simultaneous cancer diagnosis)...I mean the list goes on...
Panthers were 5-11 in 2019, Redskins were 3-13.
Since 2020 the Panthers had only two QBs start more than one game. Teddy started all but one in 2020, and they have had one QB (Darnold) this year.
Washington - has had four QBs start at least four games - not including losing their starter in week one of 2021.
To say Rhule has done more with less is not accurate, and I can't say he's any better than RR at this point.
They both may be successful where they are, but to anoint Rhule anything at this point is undeserving in my opinion. No, right now I wouldn't swap RR with Rhule.