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Old 04-13-2007, 09:10 PM   #123
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Re: Let's Discuss the 2007 Schedule

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69 View Post
Big plays ARE NOT a rare occurance in many NFL offenses. Indy, STL, NO, Cinn, and Phil to name a few get big plays all the time.

Throwing 6ints in 7 starts IS NOT forcing the ball. Not even close on that one. Considering JC got NO WORK w/ the 1st team in 1 1/2 years and had to learn ANOTHER OFFENSE, I think he did damn good. So what if he took more chances. We needed to take more chances because a lack of a deep passing game. Cooley made that play against Car. because JC threw it over the middle on a rope and hit him in stride. That deep in cut is a staple of the STL and KC offenses. You see STL run that route better than anyone. When MB was playing we led the NFL in sideline passes. Troy A. pointed this out during a beating we took against Phil when I believe we had 110 yards passing. We did not bring in SM w/ 4.2 speed, ARE and Lloyd to throw screens, curls and 10 yard outs all game long.. I bet you will see a more open offense this year w/ ALOT more deep passes. Not sure if you remember but Gibbs 1 threw it downfield ALL THE TIME!!!

Gtripp...FYI all QB's turn the ball over including, Manning and Brady. It's just part of the game. You can't win in the NFL playing scared offense unless you have a truely great defense. Not the case here. Plus the rules BEG YOU to throw it downfield becasue of the PI factor.
If getting big plays was as easy as throwing it downfield, every team would do it every play.

A lot of the examples you provide seem to support my argument. One thing that I'm not saying is that JC's relatively low INT total is reflected in his propensity to force the ball down the field.

You have to justify his 51% completion through his first 5 starts somehow. This is a 2nd year QB who projects to be very good in the NFL. He should NOT be putting up Vick like stats in his 2nd year in the league. When I compare this with my observations, it seems like Campbell was taking the deep ball when it wasn't there. Sometimes, you get a mismatch deep, with Moss 1 v 1 on a safety and you take it. It just seemed like Campbell wasn't pickin his spots well. Trying to hit Randle El out of the slot on a very deep post pattern between two safeties is not a smart play. This resulted in a lot of incompletions, and a lot of unsuccessful drives.

I'm not saying you should ever pass up an open receiver streaking down the sideline because you might miss it. I'm saying that if you don't have a mismatch, don't force the ball down the field, because incomplete may very well be the best reasonable outcome. Considering that even in an efficient offense, 40% of dropbacks will result in incomplete passes, it seems like throwing a low pct. pass when there are more open options underneath is a bad idea, and will kill a drive more often than not.

The bottom line is you want to score touchdowns. Incompletions do not help you score touchdowns. Completions do. You have to take what the defense gives you. Campbell will learn this sooner as opposed to later.
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